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 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:48 pm
oh no no no I don't mean whore I just mean like you know even if you go out with someone sometimes you cant help but look at another guy cause he's hot or something, I mean I'm..we're only human. It's really more the, not being able to fufill that part of them.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:13 am
Whenever you get into a relationship with someone, you're giving up a lot of things. I'm not sure if the sexual orientation matters that much. I mean... if I'm dating Jovo, then I'm giving up on dating Ethan. They're both boys, but maybe they both have aspects that I like. I think it'd be just the same if I were bi, you know? Dating a guy, so I'm giving up the girl.
Did that make sense?
It's been a long day.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:25 am
SeraphiceAngel What I've come to realize about bisexuals, in my own opinion has nothing to do with eww they sleep with the gender I don't like, for me personally, it's more like you could fall in love with a bi guy but you could never fufill that other part of him, and if his eye drifted would it to be another guy or a girl? Let's just hope his eye don't be driften, or elseMWAHAHAH I think I'm offended. No, wait, I know I'm offended. TuffGhost Uh, they shouldn't be drifting anyway. I mean, being bi doesn't make you more of a whore. Thank-you.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:38 am
SeraphiceAngel What I've come to realize about bisexuals, in my own opinion has nothing to do with eww they sleep with the gender I don't like, for me personally, it's more like you could fall in love with a bi guy but you could never fufill that other part of him, and if his eye drifted would it to be another guy or a girl? Let's just hope his eye don't be driften, or elseMWAHAHAH I'm less offended, more saddened. In particular because, when we discuss prejudice against bisexuals, we mean precisely this inane and erroneous line of reasoning. TuffGhost Whenever you get into a relationship with someone, you're giving up a lot of things. I'm not sure if the sexual orientation matters that much. I mean... if I'm dating Jovo, then I'm giving up on dating Ethan. They're both boys, but maybe they both have aspects that I like. I think it'd be just the same if I were bi, you know? Dating a guy, so I'm giving up the girl. That's exactly it. This is also the reason why I prefer to call myself a pansexual around people who understand these terms. As a pansexual, in terms of sexual attraction, I simply don't distinguish between genders. I'm with someone because of the person they are, not because of the parts they hide between their legs. In short, a bisexual is not a half-gay, half-straight person who lusts after a p***s with one part of himself, and after a v****a with the other. Like the gay man, who's attraction for the p***s is only one small part of the many reasons for which he would rather pursue males, the bisexual is far more complex than your ill-wrought "realizations," Angel, would imply.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:07 am
Yeah, I'm also pansexual (the gender binary being rather limiting and all that), though I generally use the term bi. JoVo In short, a bisexual is not a half-gay, half-straight person who lusts after a p***s with one part of himself, and after a v****a with the other. Yay, JoVo, for having the patience and composure to explain things that I do not. I hate that analogy, myself.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:18 am
crying crying I'm sooo sorry I didn't mean to offend everyone!!!BLAH, I'm not saying anything about bisexuals in the negative!! I'm so sorry you guys...and like I said this is only my idea but I mean I am so open to new ones, so please if you think my angle of thought is incorrect I'd love to hear some new ones biggrin Lemme see if I can put this in more easily digested terms...Let's say my boyfriend and I LOVE to eat out at restaurants, BUT I absolutely don't like seafood, but one of his favorite places to go is the Seafood Hut(fictional), so it's like even though we share this great interest, Ill never be able to go to the Seafood Hut with him and that makes me sad because I cannot share in that part of him...am I making things worse? and that whole, his eye better not stray, was a total joke Astri, I just meant RAWR, I was just kidding, like "He better not be cheatin on me"JErry Springer type voice, ya know? sorry sarcasm doesn't come across that well in text...also, I know what you mean by giving up a lot of things to be in a relationship, it's give and take I know, but I just think that what I said above is harder for me to live with, more than just him not putting the cap back on the toothpaste....I am so sorry again everyone, I mean I wouldn't ever discriminate against a bi guy or a gay guy in a dating situation, you know how much I try not to offend and just create a more positive enviroment in this guild... crying heart
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:33 pm
SeraphiceAngel Let's say my boyfriend and I LOVE to eat out at restaurants, BUT I absolutely don't like seafood, but one of his favorite places to go is the Seafood Hut(fictional), so it's like even though we share this great interest, Ill never be able to go to the Seafood Hut with him and that makes me sad because I cannot share in that part of him... So... you're saying that you want to have a threesome, but you don't like girls, so it would never work? xp
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:15 pm
TuffGhost SeraphiceAngel Let's say my boyfriend and I LOVE to eat out at restaurants, BUT I absolutely don't like seafood, but one of his favorite places to go is the Seafood Hut(fictional), so it's like even though we share this great interest, Ill never be able to go to the Seafood Hut with him and that makes me sad because I cannot share in that part of him... So... you're saying that you want to have a threesome, but you don't like girls, so it would never work? xp That's what I got. It's strange. When I'm going after a woman, I don't mind admitting that I'm bisexual. In fact, I prefer to do it before we start dating. When I'm going after a man, I generally keep it hidden because telling a guy you're bi tends to turn him off. Gay guy: "OMGz! Joo likes teh fishorz!!1" gonk
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:17 pm
Astri Yay, JoVo, for having the patience and composure to explain things that I do not. I hate that analogy, myself. Me? Patience and composure? Wow, my recent treatment really has worked! 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:18 pm
**sigh** ok that is NOWHERE near what I meant TuffGhost!!! I really don't understand how you guys can't understand what I am saying, not agree with it, JUST the literal idea of what I am saying. Ok let me put this in a third person term...say you have a good friend JoVo, and that person is your best friend, this best friend will take the place of a boyfriend in my earlier train wreck scenarios. NOw lets say you and your best friend love doing everything together, but say your best friend loved jet skiing but you don't like jet skiing, so as a best friend you might feel bad about not being able to fufill that one part of your friendship, even though your best friend wouldn't go jet skiing because they know you don't like it, but there's always the chance that MAYBE the best friend still wants to go jet skiing, but if they are a good best friend they obviously won't...I really like you guys and I love all the stuff we talk about, but I seriously don't understand how you manage to misinterpret everything I've said in the last two days on this particular thread, oy heart sweatdrop crying But just in case you are still scratching your heads about threesomes and whores or whatever else you have dissected from what I've said...forget it, I have ABSOLUTELY nothing against bisexuals or pansexuals or anything in the like. I would not discriminate against guy just because he was bisexual or pansexual. So I am sorry if anyone is still upset which I don't believe there is any need to be cause I never meant any harm in the first place, i really didn't but if you still are upset, then feel free to PM me and I can explain further. Again if you are upset, there is no need to be folks because the source is telling you he meant no harm....**Sigh** heart 3nodding heart
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:09 am
SeraphiceAngel **sigh** ok that is NOWHERE near what I meant TuffGhost!!! I really don't understand how you guys can't understand what I am saying, not agree with it, JUST the literal idea of what I am saying. Ok let me put this in a third person term...say you have a good friend JoVo, and that person is your best friend, this best friend will take the place of a boyfriend in my earlier train wreck scenarios. NOw lets say you and your best friend love doing everything together, but say your best friend loved jet skiing but you don't like jet skiing, so as a best friend you might feel bad about not being able to fufill that one part of your friendship, even though your best friend wouldn't go jet skiing because they know you don't like it, but there's always the chance that MAYBE the best friend still wants to go jet skiing, but if they are a good best friend they obviously won't...I really like you guys and I love all the stuff we talk about, but I seriously don't understand how you manage to misinterpret everything I've said in the last two days on this particular thread, oy heart sweatdrop crying But just in case you are still scratching your heads about threesomes and whores or whatever else you have dissected from what I've said...forget it, I have ABSOLUTELY nothing against bisexuals or pansexuals or anything in the like. I would not discriminate against guy just because he was bisexual or pansexual. So I am sorry if anyone is still upset which I don't believe there is any need to be cause I never meant any harm in the first place, i really didn't but if you still are upset, then feel free to PM me and I can explain further. Again if you are upset, there is no need to be folks because the source is telling you he meant no harm....**Sigh** heart 3nodding heart I think the point is that you're looking at it all wrong. When people enter into a relationship, at least a healthy one, they're more concerned with what they're getting than what they're giving up. It's not "I'm going out with Pat so I can't have sex with Cris". It's "I'm going out with Pat. I get to have sex with Pat!".
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:56 am
Vague I think the point is that you're looking at it all wrong. When people enter into a relationship, at least a healthy one, they're more concerned with what they're getting than what they're giving up. It's not "I'm going out with Pat so I can't have sex with Cris". It's "I'm going out with Pat. I get to have sex with Pat!". Quoted for emphasis.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:21 am
TuffGhost So... you're saying that you want to have a threesome, but you don't like girls, so it would never work? xp I'm pretty sure the xp face meant that he was purposely being difficult, Seraphice. I really wouldn't get too worked up over anything he says because odds are he's trying to annoy you. You're really lucky though. He didn't used to use the smileys. Everything he said looked serious. domokun Anyway, Vague is exactly right.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:24 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:13 am
Nios The pride parade for where I live is this Sunday but I'm busy. I did kind of want to go despite my bad experiences in the past. What kind of bad experiences are we talking about? Astri JoVo I find it odd that so many gay people discriminate against the others. Gays don't like lesbians. Lesbians don't like gays. No one likes bisexuals. And no one seems to gets the trannies. Everyone who fits anywhere in between, well, they don't even get a say. I wish that having to buck the norm would teach people that there aren't such things as blacks and whites. Preaching to the ********' choir, but OMGYES. I was talking about that with a close friend just the other day. The problem is that we've just become isolated and estranged because so many don't take the time to understand that it's counterproductive and unfounded. Funny how that's the same way when we think of the "heterosexual world" vs. GLBT, though I must say it's getting better. SeraphiceAngel I'm sooo sorry I didn't mean to offend everyone!!! Don't worry about it too much, it's just that you hit on one of the many things that many bisexuals find themselves misunderstood as being, even if it was in jest. I've found that the thinking behind any romantic relationship where one partner is scared of the other having a wandering eye, no matter what the pairing, is usually less about the person under suspect. Under the circumstances I'd think that the person who is suspicious might not fully trust themselves to fufill their partner's personal needs, whether it be emotional, intellectual, or physical. So they project the problem and blame the only other person they can for looking for something better. Of course that isn't always the case, but it happens often enough. Sorry, if that made absolutely no sense, I'm up too early and too soon.
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