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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:01 pm


Yeah. Soad, I think you are right on all accounts there. And, so when you get people who say "yeah. that's really how you show someone you love htem. *stab*" Or, "um, i don't think so. he killed her remember" On a technicality, it can be said that he himself did not actually kill her. Jenova did. biggrin

and on the account of holy and all.. maybe he did like her.. but he is the kind of person who would even sacrifice someone he cared about to do what his mission was. He was just that proud. and, at that point of the game, he was seriously insane. I mean.. we're talking about a guy whose crayonbox got overstuffed with stuff not belonging to it.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:50 pm


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Yeah. Soad, I think you are right on all accounts there. And, so when you get people who say "yeah. that's really how you show someone you love htem. *stab*" Or, "um, i don't think so. he killed her remember" On a technicality, it can be said that he himself did not actually kill her. Jenova did. biggrin

and on the account of holy and all.. maybe he did like her.. but he is the kind of person who would even sacrifice someone he cared about to do what his mission was. He was just that proud. and, at that point of the game, he was seriously insane. I mean.. we're talking about a guy whose crayonbox got overstuffed with stuff not belonging to it.


You have no idea how long it took me to understand your last analogy... Keheh

But, on both accounts, you two are pretty right... And damn near know every FF7 trivia there is to know....
People do crazy things, people have, always will. As I've said before, two gothic kids that had lost their fruit loops WAY back commited suicide so they'd be together in death rather than having to stay alive and have problems... Which in theory wouldn't make sense, except to a person that doesn't have any sense...

This is what I like about AeriSeph, all the twists and turns you can make about it. Whether he killed her out of love, like the two goths, or if he killed her because he was too proud and wanted to finish what he started, like in Rurouni Kenshin when Shishio killed his lover to try and kill Kenshin, it's all in the eyes of the beholder.
Heh, with the new facts in my eyes, have to go with the RK concept. He killed Aeris, despite loving her, because he wanted to finish what he started.



P.S. Read a fanfiction in my early days of AeriSeph. Sephiroth told her he would have to kill her later on, but said that he himself would die later on and he would meet her in the lifestream after his mission was complete. They made love, the next day he killed her while she was praying for holy, and then he let Cloud kill him in the final battle. Convuluted, yes, good story idea, yes, over all.... Gotta read it if you're 18+ or a pervert like me, hehehe.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:05 pm


All debates and whatnot about the pairing aside, I do have this one thing to say about Aeriseph.

They are absurdly cute with one another, that's 'fo 'sho. xd I somehow have the urge to draw them both, but I fear the cuteness will overload my computer, causing it to short circuit or something.

Because, you know, cuteness does that. It kills, too.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:46 pm


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not a fanart (well it is a fanart, but not mine), but I just photo-edited it so the two are together. Isn't it cute?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:23 am


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not a fanart (well it is a fanart, but not mine), but I just photo-edited it so the two are together. Isn't it cute?


Aw, sweet! Heheh, like it better than the Cloud and Aeris one...
I've openly stated I'm a CloTi and AeriSeph. I respect Cleris, just that that picture is damn cute, man.

I got one that'll prolly melt your heart.
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It's just too damn cute NOT to post... Heheh... I'd love to see a non-chibi version of this, have Sephiroth all flustered and all...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:18 am


I like Aeroth and Sephiroth together...but I also like Aerith an Cloud... sweatdrop

This is one of my favorite Seph and Aerith pics =)


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:35 pm


Dang, I actually that picture in black&white, but it looks so much prettier in colour... I freakin thank you, Miss Gainsborough.

Man, when I saw your name, I was scared you might've flamed the topic or something. Man, it's great to see an Aerith fan that is also an AeriSeph.
My hope in mankind's open-mindedness is truly growing... Thank you....
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:06 am


Jhay-R

No offense taken, Mage-Man. In fact, I'm smiling, really impressed with your take on this subject... Heheheh
But see, not all things you take in and believe have to be intended by the creators. See, the creators didn't Intend for Tifa to be hated for her breast size, but she is. The creators didn't Intend Aeris to be hated for being "a mary-sue." Yuffie was supposed to be somewhat annoying, but the creators didn't Intend for them to hate her to such a degree as wanting to kill her.
See, a lot of stuff that isn't intended actually happens in real life. The look of AeriSeph is truly an open-minded coupling, seeing as even the creators themselves cannot see it. You just have to see beyond what is there and see what could have been.

Sorta like the Red/Yuffie coupling, what would had happened had Red been human.... But some people still support it even if he was a dog which scares the hell outta me...




Anyway, dude, even though this thing is supposed to be for AeriSeph only... I at least respect you didn't come in here and flame us. You actually did your research and tried to explain it through information. I'm impressed, truly, truly... Just try to see why we like it, aight?


And as I expected, nobody scrolled down the first page and saw the giant blue pages I call AeriSeph ranting...


Yeah I do like to go with information given. Though story wise the two really would never end up together. Due to Sephiroth eventually becoming completely emotionless. That was part of the awsomeness of the villan. He, just loved to torment others. Though Cloud was his favorite little play thing. People these days take everything a bit to far when it comes to little hints. Sure they never intended people to hate those characters for one thing or another. Hating a character though is something we have power over. A character's choice in life, and the path they take is in the hands of the creators and the right owners.

I personally see the points given. Though personallity wise, I can't see them working. I've done some indepth study into psycology, character development, parenting (though I'm not sure if that can apply here), speech comprehinsion, and creative writting. The characters of Aeris and Sephiroth, could work. If we are talking about Sephiroth BEFORE he found out what he is, and if he returned to the way he was 5 years before the original final fantasy 7. In Final Fantasy 7, he is too full of hate to ever love agian. It's a nice concept, but will ever only work amongst fan fics and if time travel becomes possbile beyound the Cloud traveling to Final Fantasy Tactics when he was in the life stream.

Actually Character wise. I think Aeris would just annoy the modern day Sephiroth with her speaking. It's kind of like how Vincent Valentine, though can very well work with Yuffie, and Yuffie does like him, is too oblivious to the fact to ever really care. The Fan Basis, is ok. It's a nice story to dream about, and has many good points. It just comes down to time. At one point it can work. But evil, hate filled, violent sephiroth that wants to end all life. Thats like a piratexninja story. Love between them is against all acts of any god. Not agaisnt you all, not flamming. I just like to state that, right now, I see no character traits to really draw them together.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:50 pm


Like I said before, I'm glad there are people that actually take time in their arguments and study upion it instead of randomingly flaming.
There are no hard feelings between us, I hope. Just hope that there are people that can look beyond it and see what can happen instead of what has happened.
It's alright....
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:08 pm


woah Zathina_Mage I must agree with you completely!
but I just wanna give something to the thread : D

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this would have to be my favorite sephiaerith pic

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:50 pm


Heya! I love the AerisxSeph pairing. And the ideas in this thread are pretty good, but I do want to say some things. The whole thing about Aeris trying to 'make sephiroth a better person' really kind of downplays his character. (to me it seems to anyway) I mean, he wasn't really evil at all. He was just another puppet. And we really don't know much about his actual personality anyway. Also, I think that Aeris is smart enough to know that you can't really change people, but just accept them as they are. I've written a few small fanfics to explain why I think he killed her, but I don't have any of them typed up yet, as they aren't finished.

In one of them, either Aeris was with Sephiroth, or they wanted to be together. For some reason or another, Aeris ended up with Vincent, and Sephiroth found out. He went into a jealous rage, hence the murder.

I can't really remember my reasonings for the others, so i'll leave it at that for now.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:04 pm


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Heya! I love the AerisxSeph pairing. And the ideas in this thread are pretty good, but I do want to say some things. The whole thing about Aeris trying to 'make sephiroth a better person' really kind of downplays his character. (to me it seems to anyway) I mean, he wasn't really evil at all. He was just another puppet. And we really don't know much about his actual personality anyway. Also, I think that Aeris is smart enough to know that you can't really change people, but just accept them as they are. I've written a few small fanfics to explain why I think he killed her, but I don't have any of them typed up yet, as they aren't finished.

In one of them, either Aeris was with Sephiroth, or they wanted to be together. For some reason or another, Aeris ended up with Vincent, and Sephiroth found out. He went into a jealous rage, hence the murder.

I can't really remember my reasonings for the others, so i'll leave it at that for now.


Well, I don't mean completely change. I just mean, return him to the way he was before he went and lost his fruit loops. Even then, maybe try and get him out of the route of evil. He doesn't have to be a good guy, but Aeris can get Sephiroth to stop being evil, at least in my eyes she can.
And if she can accept him, and I'm sure she can, like I said before, she can just have him a tad cold and stuff. Just try and keep him from his quest to become a god and taking the lives of people in his way.
Just something I'm thinking of

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:07 pm


My favourite pairing ever. I'm writing an "epic" fanfiction about Aeris and Sephiroth. x3 They just look so good together...
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:42 pm


Jhay-R
tiffybird46
Heya! I love the AerisxSeph pairing. And the ideas in this thread are pretty good, but I do want to say some things. The whole thing about Aeris trying to 'make sephiroth a better person' really kind of downplays his character. (to me it seems to anyway) I mean, he wasn't really evil at all. He was just another puppet. And we really don't know much about his actual personality anyway. Also, I think that Aeris is smart enough to know that you can't really change people, but just accept them as they are. I've written a few small fanfics to explain why I think he killed her, but I don't have any of them typed up yet, as they aren't finished.

In one of them, either Aeris was with Sephiroth, or they wanted to be together. For some reason or another, Aeris ended up with Vincent, and Sephiroth found out. He went into a jealous rage, hence the murder.

I can't really remember my reasonings for the others, so i'll leave it at that for now.


Well, I don't mean completely change. I just mean, return him to the way he was before he went and lost his fruit loops. Even then, maybe try and get him out of the route of evil. He doesn't have to be a good guy, but Aeris can get Sephiroth to stop being evil, at least in my eyes she can.
And if she can accept him, and I'm sure she can, like I said before, she can just have him a tad cold and stuff. Just try and keep him from his quest to become a god and taking the lives of people in his way.
Just something I'm thinking of


Okie then. Man, they look so awesome together. It just kinda, works..

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:54 pm


cool i love the pic. for a timer here im surpised that my favorite evil charater has a girl. to be honest in the movie he got some a**!!
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