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Who will win?
Yusuke Urameshi
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Ganato Jin-Mesa
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Total Votes : 11


[Yusuke Urameshi]

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:02 pm


Something would go unexpected for Mesa. Although he made his spirit into anti-Yusuke, he would find that the energy would not cancel out, due to holding no spiritual based charge as he thought. It was no positive or negative relationship between the two, and so this would leave nothing to happen but an orb coming to standstill or simply being destroyed like any other. The demon energy, also, was the other force behind keeping the spiritual energy intact, and this is where the second intention of Mesa would fail. The demon energy was not as he stated, for that property belonged to another he must have studied from somewhere else. Yusuke's demon energy acted here as would anywhere else, no matter the realm, allowing it to continue its assualt.

Failing in stopping it, the collapse would begin, the very space inside taking on a vacuum like effect as it will create an explosion then a successive implosion, one that can cause his body to rip apart and/or his energy to be ripped from his body by the abnormal outward pull, then the crush would end it there, which may cause Mesa to suddenly feel his organs and energy crushed into the smallest space, only for the following reaction of an explosive like effect tearing at each molecule that made up Mesa. In conjunction with this, it would end up either completely decimating him into nothing or leaving him in a very disabled state.

This all occuring, Mesa's link would be cut off from outside the sphere due to the space/time collision, which would allow for nothing to come past to Yusuke on the ground. But if it continued, Yusuke would simply react with a burst of energy, having not used it entirely up as of yet, although reaching low supply, and would leap away from the tendrils onto the edge of the one hundred foot wall, breathing heavily.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:35 pm


[First off, all demonic energy is basically the same unless specified otherwise. Therefore you labeled demonic energy, by its title must abide by the same rules as all surnamed energy types. Demons get their power or energy from the astral plane or the great abyss, thus it is astral energy. That having been said theres no real arguing what happened to that energy, it would not override the realital rift cause the spatial temporal collapse. No more so than simple dark energies overriding celestial manipulations, they're on two different levels. So no spatial temporal collapse sphere.

Next Mesa by nature is a soul stealer/collector, that is his main handle. His own spiritual energies are enriched with the thousands of souls he's stolen from fallen foes. Having the backing of so many souls and so much energy allows it to surpass and convert others of only a single soul's energy into his own and add it to the collection. I've been doing that basically all match, that being absorbing your spiritual energy via the sphere of influence and adding it to my own stores of energy. That is why he is able to continually output energy for massive manipulations as well as multi-tasking. Multi-tasking in the sense that he was not only slowly manipulating reality within the ground below but also fighting you [over the last 3 posts].

Finally, you stated that you set down on the ground. I stated that you feet would never actually touch solid ground, but you'd immediately sink rather quickly through the liquidy substance that was the floor originally. There'd be no leaping anywhere because there'd be nothing to leap from. Firing an energy blast into this would spread the material apart to let it pass but after which it would close just the same, as throwing a rock into the river. The moment you hit the liquidy surface and began to sink the tendrils would come from the surface to grab you. So in essence the time ellapsed between sinking and being constricted is almost nothing at all. Your chara would have to note he's being sucked in, his mind and body are not one so his brain would have to register the information and then tell his body what to do. His body would have to recieve info and do it, with no real time at all. For these reasons i'd say your dead.]

S.Lyger


[Yusuke Urameshi]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:13 pm


(( Actually, not all demon energy is like that, but don't assume Yusuke's energy follows the same rules as your applied rules or any other's what it does. Basically, what I said how Yusuke's demon energy works is that it comes from his own body production and does in fact follow on this plane or whichever you wish to call it. It's different from spirit energy due to its nature of how it affects other things and works inside Yusuke's body. So yes, the collapse is possible. You shouldn't have tampered with space/time stuff in the first place and now you have to pay for it. You opened a rift in time in an attempt to have my hand pass through it, but you failed in that now you have to deal with something like this that follows the same logic you have been going by since you started using this type of powers, while I have not even used those types of powers to counter that.

Secondly, because of the demon energy and Yusuke's own attachment to his own, just because you have gathered so many souls and energy does not make your power more grand as mines is to yours. In the greatest sense, Yusuke can be just as powerful as you. Absorbing does not help you there, for you have only absorbed the power of a single spirit gun but you used it up on that beam then let it go once it collided with your defensive shield. So, you have yet to absorb any considerable energy from Yusuke ad even if you did, you cannot claim you can do many stuff to Yusuke's own power. And this counter I have done on you is fortified in its nature to allow you to no longer absorb like you did before and to also help the spirit energy and the demon energy to assist one another in their tasks: which creates the collpase I explained in detail how it formed, which you simply said you created a rift in time then somehow tried to absorb my power.

As for the ground thing, it's no different from when I used that translation in the air. Seeing those tendrils, he already reacts by leaping away from them. And you are again underestimating my character's reflexes. If he is going to move fast, he is going to have have fast reflexes, and being who he is racial wise and experience-wise, he has more than enough to back up that defensive evasion from the ground that you manipulated. And it's not like a stone dropping into water, for this stone can move.

Now, with all that said and done, the summary of it all is: you're trying to get an easy victory by stating that Yusuke cannot match up against you. I would counter-claim and say your character is dead instead, but I have not, and even left an option that your character will just be drained of most, if not all, of his energy after using this forbidden power of space and time if you choose not to accept the more unfortunate option. However, anything can happen, so I have not assumed you will be dead after what I did. I just want you to back up how to get out of this event without teleporting or anything like that. I'm being lenient here, too, for otherwise, I could have said you were done for having failed in stopping my counter.

Now, please, let us continue and maybe stop using such powers. I promise you, if you attempt them again if your character survives this, I won't go easy on how I defend against them. I just want a nice fight where we won't have to go OOC for every little thing.))

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:32 pm


(( " lol my chars stronger than yers"
Anyways; I'll vote on Yusuke, you can never say your character's stronger, unless it's actually in a role-play or the other person doesn't want to win. Every battle in this tournament will be one of wits; and you lost, Ball. ))

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:37 pm


[[I agree with Yusuke on this one, too. Really, it's his character, so he decides where the energy comes from, and what it is, assuming something about ALL demons will end up wrong, as it's impossible for everyone to have the same views, and demons aren't real, so they can't be judged as always using the same energy.]]
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:15 pm


[I could have went into the realital flow, and resonance upon the super strings and all that. I've just been rather rushed as of late with school and all. But *sigh* no power you say? the old fashioned way then it is.]

Immediately he'd sever the psionic tether affective outside the orb and would focus them on the inside. Though his sphere of influence would protect him from the 1st blast, he would have to replenish it to take the second. His sphere of influence is an extension of his own perseption upon the prime material plane. Within it, his influence is absolute when manifested, it feeds of the mixture of his spiritual and mental energies flowing freely through his mind and body. His first instinct was to absorb the blast though even in his Majin form this would be a hell of a task. The amount of energy output by the blast would have to be matched by his own to counter balance one another. Reversing the polarity of the molecules which make up the blast, reduce the initial explosion to a small burst of flame, the rest cycled through his system via the sphere.

Not so easy however was the implosion of a spatial collapse, drawing all within the area to one point, reducing it to about the size of an atom on the exact focal point of the collapse and then obliterating it from time and space. The recycling of the explosion energy would prove to be rather effective against the implosion. Expelling such energy now would push out on the imploding forces. Since in a spatial collapse a level of equality is prevalent between both blasts, hitting the second blast with the first both of which are polar opposites in allignment would negate the two.

The massive amounts of foreign energy cycling heavily throughout his body and perception along with the mixture of what he'd originally gathered to survive this counter sent him over the edge. Unable to hold the energy in his arms and legs would burst outwards extended fully on all sides, head back looking up into the sky, palms facing outwards. His once crimson aura would become black as night and explode outwards brimming with the energy of his very being. His spiked crimson locks would grow longer and darker red, physically his body grew making him both taller and more muscular than before now around 6'6. Mind, body, and soul would conjoin within his form combining all spiritual and psionic energies into a very versatile energy known to his people as Ga-Ki. Ga-Ki is similiar to celestial energy in that it does not require alot of it to do many techniques. Fangs would protrude from his lips, giving him the look of a beast, pitching his head back he would roar, flexing his newly found muscles. This was his last stage, Gajin form.

S.Lyger


[Yusuke Urameshi]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:05 pm


As this was all going on, Yusuke just stood on the edge of the wall, looking forward as he wondered what would happen and if his opponent was done for, currently replenishing his spirit energy throughout his body. However, it would suddenly be overlayed by his own demon energy, which would now have his body take on a red glow. When the event before him ceased, he could now see Mesa standing there in a new form.

"Someone needs a haircut."

Yusuke cracks his right hand without even clenching it, his left doing the same as his demon energy starts to become even more dominant, a smile dawning his face. "Well, there's no use in holding back any longer." Yusuke looks down toward the ground then back at Mesa before he bends his knees and suddenly charges at Mesa, flying through the air as his arms bend to his sides, engaging the enraged guy.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:30 pm


(( Yes, I'm late, but Mesa wanted my opinion, so here it is. ))
S.Lyger
[First off, all demonic energy is basically the same unless specified otherwise.]

(( This is wrong. Therefore, everything that follows it is wrong.

As per Yuusuke's 'utter void of power' or whatever you want to call it, since it hinges entirely on the dynamics beween his and your power systems, it cannot be unless you also agree that it is. As you've already begun IC posting again, I'm going to assume that the both of you came to a conclusion on whether or not that actually happened.



In short: "I > You" is not a fight, nor is it anything resembling a fight, yet it's been what you're aiming for since the beginning of this. I didn't want to make a comment on your faulty mechanics or a lot of the ballsy assumptions you made that were so very likely to ******** you in the a** if Yuusuke wanted to smack you on the wrist and say "bad puppy". But he's been a damn good sport about this all, and in responce it seems like all you've done is repeatedly say:

Yuusuke: "I attack you."
Mesa: "I block effortlessly and kill you."
Yuusuke: "Okay, here's my defense, and then an attack."
Mesa: "I block effortlessly and kill you."
Yuusuke: "I narrowly avoid it, then spend a turn charging up my next attack to try and hit you with."
Mesa: "You're not allowed to avoid it. I kill you before you have a chance to react."



Yeah... when it comes down to it... nobody is going to side with you if they have a choice. These fortunate people here who've put in their two cents have a choice. I, unfortunately, am burdened with the responsibility of being impartial on the matter. Looking at the facts, at your attitude, at his attitude, at any concept of fair play and character balance in general, and the fight at large...

You really gotta get over yourself.

Now please resume the competition in good will and good faith. ))


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S.Lyger

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:34 pm


Mesa would smirk, simply holding out his palm so that it was facing his opponent. Six meta-physical needles would burst forth from his outstretched palm, transparent in appearance and radiating no energy to be detected. Acting simply upon his will they would charge towards his opponen defying more than a few material rules with their speed. Upon contact they would immediately assault his brain, surpassing physical and even meta-physical barriers to completely eliminate all functions and synapses as well as obliterate all physical materia within his skull.

The black aura now extended 20ft on all sides representing his sphere of influence, black electricity danced heavily about the outsides as he dangled there in mid air. Ga-Ki would surge heavily through his body, center around his mind and palms currently. If this initial strike didnt end this, he would try a few of his newer techniques.

[I guess to that i'd simply say that i dont make weak charas. My chara is charging damn near every post using the sphere of influence so thats why i dont have to take full posts to say i'm charging. Furthermore, i was trying not to expose much of this chara until the last few matches of the tourney. My attitude is simply that i do my best to leave very little if any room for a counter with my attacks as i believe any good fighter should. But it amazes me how he always seems to have a rather small loophole, which sometimes i dont think fits so i speak my mind on the subject. After explained theres no flaming contest i just adjust or make a new post and continue. I apologize if my attitude really seems all that shitty to all.]
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:57 pm


S.Lyger
[I guess to that i'd simply say that i dont make weak charas.]

(( Try it sometime. It's good fun to have to actually try in order to do something. Limiting your possibilities encourages out-of-the-box thinking. Whenever I teach RP, this is the one thing which I enforce first. You can't learn to run until you can walk, and sometimes you just need a refresher course on the basics, too...

That and being the underdog is so much more fun than being "oh man, I'm so much better, I'm like a bossfight, yeah, yeah, yeah". 3nodding ))

S.Lyger
[My chara is charging damn near every post using the sphere of influence so thats why i dont have to take full posts to say i'm charging.]

(( 1. Doing something passively tends to put much less weight behind it than doing it actively. Additionally, saying "I auto-charge every turn" is like saying "the longer we fight, the stronger I get".

2. What are you charging off of, anyways? If Yuusuke says that his power is not the type you can absorb, then what are you doing? Eating people in the audience? domokun ))

S.Lyger
[Furthermore, i was trying not to expose much of this chara until the last few matches of the tourney.]

(( Sometimes you can't do that. You can't assume that you'll just waltz to the final four before even needing to put effort in. You might not be as good as you think you are, OR you might get unlucky and get matched against someone really good early on. Champions have to advance, too. ))

S.Lyger
[My attitude is simply that i do my best to leave very little if any room for a counter with my attacks as i believe any good fighter should. But it amazes me how he always seems to have a rather small loophole, which sometimes i dont think fits so i speak my mind on the subject.]

(( Nobody goes into it expecting that their attack will be countered... if they do, you call that a feint.

Loopholes are there to be exploited, and there is always a loophole. If there isn't you're unbalanced, plain and simple. This is a simple rule I hold for everyone, most of all myself. There is no such thing is a perfect offense and a perfect defense. In fact, the more that you concentrate on something in one way, the more that it should shift away from it in another way. That's called balance, and it's what makes games fair and worth playing.


Though thank you for appologizing. I don't know why I'm saying it, since Yuusuke is the guy who it belongs to, but I give you a thumbs up for the fact that you did appologize. I know a great many people who wouldn't. ))


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S.Lyger

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:21 pm


themightyjello
S.Lyger
[I guess to that i'd simply say that i dont make weak charas.]

(( Try it sometime. It's good fun to have to actually try in order to do something. Limiting your possibilities encourages out-of-the-box thinking. Whenever I teach RP, this is the one thing which I enforce first. You can't learn to run until you can walk, and sometimes you just need a refresher course on the basics, too...

That and being the underdog is so much more fun than being "oh man, I'm so much better, I'm like a bossfight, yeah, yeah, yeah". 3nodding ))

S.Lyger
[My chara is charging damn near every post using the sphere of influence so thats why i dont have to take full posts to say i'm charging.]

(( 1. Doing something passively tends to put much less weight behind it than doing it actively. Additionally, saying "I auto-charge every turn" is like saying "the longer we fight, the stronger I get".

2. What are you charging off of, anyways? If Yuusuke says that his power is not the type you can absorb, then what are you doing? Eating people in the audience? domokun ))

S.Lyger
[Furthermore, i was trying not to expose much of this chara until the last few matches of the tourney.]

(( Sometimes you can't do that. You can't assume that you'll just waltz to the final four before even needing to put effort in. You might not be as good as you think you are, OR you might get unlucky and get matched against someone really good early on. Champions have to advance, too. ))

S.Lyger
[My attitude is simply that i do my best to leave very little if any room for a counter with my attacks as i believe any good fighter should. But it amazes me how he always seems to have a rather small loophole, which sometimes i dont think fits so i speak my mind on the subject.]

(( Nobody goes into it expecting that their attack will be countered... if they do, you call that a feint.

Loopholes are there to be exploited, and there is always a loophole. If there isn't you're unbalanced, plain and simple. This is a simple rule I hold for everyone, most of all myself. There is no such thing is a perfect offense and a perfect defense. In fact, the more that you concentrate on something in one way, the more that it should shift away from it in another way. That's called balance, and it's what makes games fair and worth playing.


Though thank you for appologizing. I don't know why I'm saying it, since Yuusuke is the guy who it belongs to, but I give you a thumbs up for the fact that you did appologize. I know a great many people who wouldn't. ))


[^_^. I guess part of the problem is this is my most versatile and strongest chara. I've made others who can do what he can but not in this way, it requires some effort for others. But i understand what your saying, maybe i could use one of your basics courses after this is all said and done.]




Edit via TMJ so as not to waste more posts in this thread with meaningless OOC: Whenever I have time, I'm open to teaching. It's all I tend to do anymore. Not teaching towards 'greatness' insomuch, but teaching towards 'maturity'. Characters can be strong, but we must always admit that there is someone stronger. In roleplay, this is true. In a tournament, it is moreso... For there to be competition, all players must be essentially on more or less equal terms with their style being the largest modifier to this. Just think of those poorly made fighter games where the other guy would always pick THE best character and just rule you no matter what you did. Then compare it to playing the good ones where it didn't matter what character you had as long as you knew how to use him and his moves right. If there is an imbalance, it ruins the competetive spirit of it... which is more or less why I profusely state that if there is to be a massive power difference, it will be because one character chooses to be less powerful than the others, and not the other way around.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:52 pm


When the palm outstretches toward him, Yusuke expects something to come at him as he approaches. The needles that are fired would impact into the surrounding demon aura, only to be affected by a tiny defensive spark, which was no different from the occasional sparks that were emitting through the environment from the colliding powers. And so the needles would do nothing more than disperese or just remain there against the aura as Yusuke flies in close before coming to a stop just outside the black colored aura, not knowing if it coming into contact with the thing was safe. He remained hovering there as he looks with a face that was between a frown and confusion. It wasn't until he aims his right index finger toward Mesa, his left hand gripping his right wrist, that he would start to take measures to bring this match into his favor.

[Yusuke Urameshi]


S.Lyger

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:25 pm


Mesa smiled, "yes, lets get it" he'd close his outstretched hand in such a way to mimic holding a baseball with his pointer, middle finger, and thumb. The tiniest of sparkles would appear within the small opening where the ball would be, quickly filling the space but getting no bigger. Beams of light would trickle from between his fingers, the energy beckoning its master to release it. Ga-Ki flooded this tiny orb particles of this powerful energy condensing to make room and thus thickening the orb continually. The slightest of seals formed about it, in order to keep it stabilized, he concentrated heavily upon it for this truely was his favorite and usually most devestating attack.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:47 pm


Yusuke stared with one of the calmest faces one would ever see on him, although his eyebrows were slightly dipped to show a small frown. The small orb of light blue energy would concentrate at the tip of the aimed index finger, gathering energies as Yusuke remains intact in midair, a smirk coming to his face.

"Tell me something: why are you here, anyway? For glory? For someone special? Or for yourself?"

[Yusuke Urameshi]


S.Lyger

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:19 am


Mesa would respond calmly, "i'm here on behalf of my brother who could not make it. I told him i'd win this for him, this was his last request." The small orb began pulsating between his fingers light leaking from all crevices in his grip though the energy was finally charged. He'd close his fist, blood crimson light pouring from his hands. Waves within reality itself radiated off this small orb unable to fathom its true power. Ga-Ki energy layered over and over again to the entire capacity of his grip and this small orb. Fist clenched tight he'd look up at his opponent, "you ready?"
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