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 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:25 pm
Cougar Draven I would tend to agree more with another Stephen King theory, the Dark Tower version..."Time is a face on the water." All you need is the right door, and you can go anywhere...or anywhen. Could you elaborate on that one, please? I haven't yet read the Dark Tower series, though I intend to, and as such I'm uncertain as to how well I'm grasping your meaning here. As for me, I'm aware of Einstein's theory mentioned before (travel faster than light and you become suspended until you cease to travel at such speed and you find yourself in what you would call the future, whereas it seems to have moved at the usual speed/time for others). From a purely theoretical point of view, it is logical, and therefor plausible. I sincerely doubt the populace has access to the necessary equipment/material to actually go out and travel faster than the rest of us do through time..
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:26 pm
Count Aristocrat I think the faster-than-light-travel theory has the most backbone so far... even though we don't quite know how to do that yet... perhaps there's a way to solidify light and catch a ride... say, getting in postion in front of the sun, activating this device, and whoosh! Your off to pluto... whoops! guess I'm off topic. Even with this theory (and the fact that the light would destroy whatever it hit, and condensing light would be just as hard as traveling to a parrellel universe), I have no ideas of going faster than light. Easy... after you solidify it... you start to ride on it (speed of light), then you jump in the direction you are heading! Technically... if you could jump off light like that... you would be travelling faster than light at the time of jumping... lol I was thinking of Teminator when thinking about time travel. John Connor's father is Kyle Reese... from the future, and the future John Connor sent Kyle Reese to the past to stop the other terminator. Now... here is the problem: How does the son send his dad into the past, and he get's born? Where does it start? I honestly don't know where I'm going with it... but it was explained that it started with possibly a completely different Kyle Reese... and potentially it goes into involving somewhat different dimensions I suppose... sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:59 pm
If time travel was possible, and that "in 50 years we'll be able to travel through time" then someone 50 years from now would come back and give us the technology.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:26 am
Ultima Squall If time travel was possible, and that "in 50 years we'll be able to travel through time" then someone 50 years from now would come back and give us the technology. but that they will have to teach us in "our present time" everything about how it works and how they got to the point to do time travel. Also if they did give us the technology, that will unltimatly alter the whole future despite how minor or major the change is. - The Butterfly effect (not pointing at the movie, but it still has the same idea.) This is a bit hard to explain, but heres an illustration which i read once. If a man goes back into time and kills his mother, then he will not have existed in the first place. So how can he kill his mother if he hasn't existed yet. There are a lot of ways to look at this, but you can not really determine a correct answer. here we can see how confusing time travelling can become and what havoc or massive changes it can cause. The only way to know if time possible is truly possible is to experience it yourself.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:59 pm
my idea is that to travail back ward you'd need to duplicate the signature for the whole universe to the time you wish to travail to... then there is the idea of setting up a pre arranged gate to a certain time so you could travail through the gate to any past time in which it has existed... then there is of course the butterfly effect idea where you as a being aren't linear and can travail to any past you to change events. in reality i don't really belaive there is time time is just a construct of man to order things but i may be wrong...
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:56 am
Oh... I have thought even more of this.
What if time isn't a line, but more of a web? As in... we are of course on one track, but there are so many threading off. (A simplified example would be roughly 50% of the threads from now would be me making this post, 50% would be me deciding not to post. In those halves, there is the time it takes to post, mistakes I may make along the way, time to correct them, or even deciding at the last moment to not do it.)
So... that said, going back in time to prevent myself from doing this post would possibly just mean jumping to a different thread in time. The idea of killing your own mother would mean that, again, roughly 50% of the threads from that point wouldn't involve having said mother alive. You may still exist... but 50% of those threads you wouldn't.
I don't even know if that is making sense... sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:43 pm
think of the idea its a tree... or something like that the whole web idea makes sence but think that each new possibility nixs out other possibilitiessometimes realities converge when different paths have the same outcome. a web is actually pretty accurate if your going from the center out... if your objective is to get to outside the web. people then could destroy certain paths so they can't be taken. you could create shoots to other parts of the web. time travail.... it would be like a vast complicated 3-d web... still don't really beleive time is real but is a construct much like a web... it's a good analogy.. i don't know i'm out of it... not thinking linearly
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:00 pm
Maze Cougar Draven I would tend to agree more with another Stephen King theory, the Dark Tower version..."Time is a face on the water." All you need is the right door, and you can go anywhere...or anywhen. Could you elaborate on that one, please? I haven't yet read the Dark Tower series, though I intend to, and as such I'm uncertain as to how well I'm grasping your meaning here. I can, and will, elaborate. Time is such of a measure in that it is relative to each person who experiences it. For instance, I currently work at a gas station, but my last job was a McDonald's drive-through. (Don't all pity me at once, please.) McDonald's is pretty much active throughout the workday, whereas gas stations are notorious for having deluges and lulls consistently. So, an hour at McDonald's may seem to pass in ten minutes, where that same hour at a gas station could pass in what seems to be anything from five minutes to six days. I could swear that the time between 8:00 am and 1:00 pm today was roughly seven to ten years long. In addition, time always seems shorter in retrospect. That same five-hour period from 8 to 1 today may have seemed a week long...but looking back on it, it might have been five seconds all told. Now that I've defined time as I see it, on to travel through time. I believe that time travel is nothing more than a form of transportation, just along another plane of existence. I feel the need to apologize in advance for the following quote, and also to suggest that we change the name of the guild to the H2G2 Philosopher's Guide, since 95% of the threads here allude to it. Douglas N. Adams You can slice the Whole Sort of General Mish Mash any way you like and you will generally come up with something that someone will call home. Please feel free to blither now. There you have it. Drawing once again from sai King, this time the short story the Jaunt, teleportation is just taking matter from one place and moving it to another place. In order to do that, the matter has to move along anywhere between one and three of the known planes of existence. In fact, we do this every day. Planes, trains, cars, elevators, hell, even walking. We travel along planes of existence every second that we move. And all time travel is is travel along the fourth plane of existence.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:27 pm
Sinesthera anything is possible so why should time travail be impossible What a a load of Crap! It's not possible that I could just burst into flames right now... PS. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
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