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It is an ungodly act, because it is lust. We should love and help homosexuals, to do anything else would also be ungodly. The 11th commandmant is to love thy neighbor as thy self, which most people seem to forget. However, this also means just to let any bi or gay friends know your beliefs and what the Lord says on this matter, alot of my friends are bi, but they know I love them, also because Jesus does and says to do the same.

You talk like humans should act like beasts. They weren't born evil, that's something people choose. No matter what you say, homosexuality is unnatural for humans and for obvious reasons (diseases), same as sleeping around (people shouldn't need condoms to stay "clean"). It's obvious what is good and bad (whether it be gut feeling or consequences).

18In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires. 19These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. - Jude 1:17-18

It's basic for everyone to understand but their arrogance and lust blinds them and they suffer for it. That's why we must help them from it (just like any sin can be over come). It's a choice that is and always will be hard but always doable to make (like when others turn from it, people still refute saying "they weren't really gay to begin with, so to cover themselves to strive to gain allowance of their sin in the law as natural, such as pressuring others for acceptance and comparing their "struggle" as like the civil rights movement. News flash: you can't change your race).

It was almost hard not to laugh at this, but then I remembered that you were serious. Beasts... yes, high intelligent animals that just happen to exist and blah, blah, blah. I'm not even going to bother to explain how stupid it is to think we are all accidents and should just "wing" life trying to fulfill only themselves to the best they can and then die and then never exist again. If you are that insensible, then what are you even talking about this stuff, it wont matter for you later. Yeah, that's the life I want to live, no hope, no point. "Right wing" was cute, like this has anything to do with government, it's all about morals. And do you like to dig your own holes, because you apparently "didn't read" the solid facts on the physical consequences of sexual immorality. Plus My first question was rhetorical, but you were obviously to inflamed with you own immature attempts to attack me to see that. Only someone truly evil* would agree cultures are in the ok to do evil* things because evil* is a "state of mind".

*Evil
–adjective
1. morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds
2. harmful; injurious
3. characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous
4. due to actual or imputed bad conduct or character
5. marked by anger, irritability, irascibility, etc.

Burning churches. Ah, the things people think that will make them earn any respect or fear. Hey man don't let me stop you, I'm just on a computer, if you're going to do it, you'll do it. I'll just simply submit your Gaia name to be tracked through police investigation if something were to pop up, after all that's the most I can do. And if you'd take your bible-fearing goggles off for a brief moment, you'd see that it's to make a point, I obviously know that you're too stubborn right now to believe it. You know the reason why the bible works for Christians is because it's for us, not those who wish ill upon humanity.

I'm straight because I wasn't influenced by other sources to suggest to me otherwise and I was raised proper. Which is why the "Gay-Rights" movement has to stop and not ruin even more people through just accepting these lustful acts to be okay because of the government (It'd be only a matter of time before Incest and Sodomy-Rights movement spawn if permission is given to homosexual lifestyles for the whole country). And please don't think you have any reasoning or authority to tell people it's "natural" to have sex with anything other than the opposite gender. And picking things out of the air like saying "so people should not have rights because of a lifestyle" and trying to pin it on me as if I said it? You are really too much. If you are interested though, people who sleep around because it's their "lifestyle" shouldn't get medical insurance for sexually transmitted diseases because of, well, the obvious (kind of like giving medical insurance to known addicts). Monogamists have virtually nil chance of getting anything versus others, who cost the economy millions of dollars a year. Listen, how about you just don't even bother about these things because no side can "win" on these issues, in which you can try, and may even think you win, but what is, is. Stretching it is pointless if it's only moral issues which people have opinions on and don't want to see the less "fun" side of things.

Thank you Siren of Saturn and ShondraSu. Ok, let me try to come about this a different way... truth: I am naturally bi, my boyfriend knows this, and I have chosen to live straight and conservative. The thing is, there is a clear difference between love and lust, like joy and pleasure.

"Joy, must be sharply distinguished both from Happiness and Pleasure. Joy has indeed one characteristic, and one only, in common with them; the fact that anyone who has experienced it will want it again...I doubt whether anyone who has tasted it would ever, if both were in his power, exchange it for all the pleasures in the world. But Joy is never in our power and pleasure often is." ~ C.S. Lewis

Everyone is tempted at something, but temptation itself is not a sin, because even Jesus the New Testiment said was tempted by Satan in the desert whial he was fasting for 40 days. Also, the Lord says to "love thy neighbor as thy self" (as I said before), so when it comes to true love, is there any room for hate or fear? Again, and yes Lazarus, I did tell them that. MY CLOSEST FRIEND IS BI TOO! And she has known me for years before she even told anyone, still, as I said before 3nodding we both, I guess you could say, have reasons to be offended by each other, and we do not really respect each other, but we all love each other as friends so it doesn't matter ^^ even if we were to all stop being friends, we all agree we would contine to care about eachother reguardless of personal views. So please, do not be so closed-minded to believe they would of course naturally hate me for disagreeing with them twisted LOL blaugh


And @ Lazarus, I am also sorry for using stuff from the Bible in this, however, in respect and accordance to your faith, might I ask how it would matter one way or another? (that is one thing I ask people, just out of curiousity, if God doesn't exist... why do you get so angry every time someone brings him up? Or asks you just to not say that word in a vile way?) I am simply applying my logic friend, as you are using yours as well 3nodding

Of course the obvious exceptions of hating sin and fearing God.

not sure but last i checked hate was totally out of gods domain and this etire thread is based on the question she just answered. hating the sin is the problem.

ah, and thanks angel smile