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 Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:40 am
JoshuaKenzo Have you ever even seen Star Wars? eek I can't believe you didn't get the joke! xd *beats you with camembert* Silly. whee *blinks blinks then whimpers* I'm sowweeee!!!! owie... No me no seen star wars, me asian and am against star wars..um..yesh..me no englishee......x.x
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:33 am
Lunaries JoshuaKenzo Have you ever even seen Star Wars? eek I can't believe you didn't get the joke! xd *beats you with camembert* Silly. whee *blinks blinks then whimpers* I'm sowweeee!!!! owie... No me no seen star wars, me asian and am against star wars..um..yesh..me no englishee......x.x *glares* Anyone that hasn't seen star wars is an uncultivated, anti-cultural barbarian. xd Death by camembert! scream
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:45 am
JoshuaKenzo Lunaries JoshuaKenzo Have you ever even seen Star Wars? eek I can't believe you didn't get the joke! xd *beats you with camembert* Silly. whee *blinks blinks then whimpers* I'm sowweeee!!!! owie... No me no seen star wars, me asian and am against star wars..um..yesh..me no englishee......x.x *glares* Anyone that hasn't seen star wars is an uncultivated, anti-cultural barbarian. xd Death by camembert! scream no do not soil the camembert...use the force
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:00 am
Uggae JoshuaKenzo Lunaries JoshuaKenzo Have you ever even seen Star Wars? eek I can't believe you didn't get the joke! xd *beats you with camembert* Silly. whee *blinks blinks then whimpers* I'm sowweeee!!!! owie... No me no seen star wars, me asian and am against star wars..um..yesh..me no englishee......x.x *glares* Anyone that hasn't seen star wars is an uncultivated, anti-cultural barbarian. xd Death by camembert! scream no do not soil the camembert...use the force Why you JUST realized that I'm a barbarian? eek OMg that so reminds me of the site that calls Aikido Jedi training rofl
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:24 pm
The force is strong in the camembert... whee ninja
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:17 pm
huh? i thought this was a fighting thread...
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:42 pm
Lunaries Umm I know with these guys, fear has nothing to do with it. They're friends, and it's simply that they get carried away. You don't feel fear, you don't feel anger, you just feel adrenaline pumping and letting yourself go with it. Dark side? I'm not sure if it's a dark side. It's simply human nature, though I suppose you can call it dark side of human nature. Things happen, I don't believe in condeming people for getting carried away. I'm not sure too if it is desecration. Part of training is to fight. Yes, getting carried away is bad, but when two people willingly do it on a consentual basis, I'm not so sure what's so bad about it. Besides, people used to go around challenging students and teachers from other schools. This is really no different, a testing of skills to see who is more skilled, only giving it all, no holds. No death shall be nessicary... xd But in all seriousness.... I believe you missed what I actually meant. Hell... just earlier today I was in a small tournament had a good hard sparring match with an older gentleman. Everyone (except my kuk sa nim who was calling the match) thought we were trying to kill each other. Yet we left in good nature and complemented each other on some good shots they got in. Now... here's the kicker (no pun intended)... my opponent lost the match and took some hard shots in the process. So... how did he leave that ring so good natured to me? Simply... getting lost in the match and losing control are not the same thing. We got lost in the match but we never lost control. Despite how hard we hit each other we never lost sight of this one thing... nobody is trying to hurt anybody and its all in good fun. Matches that lose control are matches where at least one opponent loses sight of this; which is what leads to anger on both sides. This is because they start to believe that they need to hurt their opponent or they believe their opponent is trying to hurt them. I hope that's a little clearer.
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:14 am
I think that the sparing is a great way of using your martial arts with no one getting hurt in the process. Every one should learn to have a little self control when they''re sparring otherwise they will get angry and "lose sight" of having fun. And people also shouldn''t take a loss but so hard, a loss just helps you learn more. biggrin
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:58 pm
Amylin Lunaries Umm I know with these guys, fear has nothing to do with it. They're friends, and it's simply that they get carried away. You don't feel fear, you don't feel anger, you just feel adrenaline pumping and letting yourself go with it. Dark side? I'm not sure if it's a dark side. It's simply human nature, though I suppose you can call it dark side of human nature. Things happen, I don't believe in condeming people for getting carried away. I'm not sure too if it is desecration. Part of training is to fight. Yes, getting carried away is bad, but when two people willingly do it on a consentual basis, I'm not so sure what's so bad about it. Besides, people used to go around challenging students and teachers from other schools. This is really no different, a testing of skills to see who is more skilled, only giving it all, no holds. No death shall be nessicary... xd But in all seriousness.... I believe you missed what I actually meant. Hell... just earlier today I was in a small tournament had a good hard sparring match with an older gentleman. Everyone (except my kuk sa nim who was calling the match) thought we were trying to kill each other. Yet we left in good nature and complemented each other on some good shots they got in. Now... here's the kicker (no pun intended)... my opponent lost the match and took some hard shots in the process. So... how did he leave that ring so good natured to me? Simply... getting lost in the match and losing control are not the same thing. We got lost in the match but we never lost control. Despite how hard we hit each other we never lost sight of this one thing... nobody is trying to hurt anybody and its all in good fun. Matches that lose control are matches where at least one opponent loses sight of this; which is what leads to anger on both sides. This is because they start to believe that they need to hurt their opponent or they believe their opponent is trying to hurt them. I hope that's a little clearer. Hmm I think we just have different definitions of when control is lost. For me, the line comes much sooner. I've seen people go into fights and try to hurt their opponent yet come away good natured and friends. Hell, when I'm boxing with mhy sempai, I'm going at it like I want to kill him. And because I know he can take it, I allow myself to loose control and try to hurt him in any way possible. In fact, if I don't reach that stage where I'm fighting like a cornered animal, I get yelled at for not giving it my all. (Our skill levels are gaps and gaps apart.) I'm not sure if losing control will always leads to or equate to anger. You can try and hurt another friend without anger. I guess that's the distinction I'm trying to make. Maybe we just see the points of losing control as different points in the adrenaline level.
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:34 pm
Lunaries Hmm I think we just have different definitions of when control is lost. For me, the line comes much sooner. I've seen people go into fights and try to hurt their opponent yet come away good natured and friends. Hell, when I'm boxing with mhy sempai, I'm going at it like I want to kill him. And because I know he can take it, I allow myself to loose control and try to hurt him in any way possible. In fact, if I don't reach that stage where I'm fighting like a cornered animal, I get yelled at for not giving it my all. (Our skill levels are gaps and gaps apart.) I'm not sure if losing control will always leads to or equate to anger. You can try and hurt another friend without anger. I guess that's the distinction I'm trying to make. Maybe we just see the points of losing control as different points in the adrenaline level. Again... I believe you misunderstand me. (Blast my bad english! scream ) My point of losing control is when you become blind to your actions. When your moves become flat, illogical, and untactful. Now... when facing someone like your sempai or my kuk sa nim nothing less than your fullest should be givin'... too true. How ever what if it were the opposite? What is your sempai or my kuk sa nim sparring us at their fullest? I don't where your skill level is but personally.... in my sparring matches with my kuk sa nim I have only experienced half his ability once... and it left me out for quite some time. (I was becoming arrogent and forgetting my humbleness.) Keeping control (anger) is partially keeping your opponents abilities in mind. You certainly wouldn't spar a beginner at your fullest, would you? If you did chances are you'd nevre see that beginner again and if you did they would most certainly avoid you. What you discribed to me what once again, getting lost in the match, not losing control.
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:52 am
Amylin Lunaries Hmm I think we just have different definitions of when control is lost. For me, the line comes much sooner. I've seen people go into fights and try to hurt their opponent yet come away good natured and friends. Hell, when I'm boxing with mhy sempai, I'm going at it like I want to kill him. And because I know he can take it, I allow myself to loose control and try to hurt him in any way possible. In fact, if I don't reach that stage where I'm fighting like a cornered animal, I get yelled at for not giving it my all. (Our skill levels are gaps and gaps apart.) I'm not sure if losing control will always leads to or equate to anger. You can try and hurt another friend without anger. I guess that's the distinction I'm trying to make. Maybe we just see the points of losing control as different points in the adrenaline level. Again... I believe you misunderstand me. (Blast my bad english! scream ) My point of losing control is when you become blind to your actions. When your moves become flat, illogical, and untactful. Now... when facing someone like your sempai or my kuk sa nim nothing less than your fullest should be givin'... too true. How ever what if it were the opposite? What is your sempai or my kuk sa nim sparring us at their fullest? I don't where your skill level is but personally.... in my sparring matches with my kuk sa nim I have only experienced half his ability once... and it left me out for quite some time. (I was becoming arrogent and forgetting my humbleness.) Keeping control (anger) is partially keeping your opponents abilities in mind. You certainly wouldn't spar a beginner at your fullest, would you? If you did chances are you'd nevre see that beginner again and if you did they would most certainly avoid you. What you discribed to me what once again, getting lost in the match, not losing control. Heh it's probably not your English. I think I can be a little dense sometimes. I believe I know what you are speaking of now though. I can see what you mean in terms of keeping anger out of the situation. I guess in the beginning of the argument, I was refering to two people specifically that are at the same level. Actually, this brings up a good point I've always wanted to discuss because I keep getting told two opposite things. Sometimes I am told to "stop thinking". Actually that's often. Let your body react instinctually, let the moves come naturally. That makes sense. (I think when I was speaking earlier, I got mixed up with 'lose control' and 'stop thinking'.) But on the other hand, you are to be tactful and to plan ahead for moves. As I do not do a whole lot of sparring, I am still having problems coming to terms with doing both those things at once. Any pointers?
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:02 pm
Lunaries Amylin Lunaries Hmm I think we just have different definitions of when control is lost. For me, the line comes much sooner. I've seen people go into fights and try to hurt their opponent yet come away good natured and friends. Hell, when I'm boxing with mhy sempai, I'm going at it like I want to kill him. And because I know he can take it, I allow myself to loose control and try to hurt him in any way possible. In fact, if I don't reach that stage where I'm fighting like a cornered animal, I get yelled at for not giving it my all. (Our skill levels are gaps and gaps apart.) I'm not sure if losing control will always leads to or equate to anger. You can try and hurt another friend without anger. I guess that's the distinction I'm trying to make. Maybe we just see the points of losing control as different points in the adrenaline level. Again... I believe you misunderstand me. (Blast my bad english! scream ) My point of losing control is when you become blind to your actions. When your moves become flat, illogical, and untactful. Now... when facing someone like your sempai or my kuk sa nim nothing less than your fullest should be givin'... too true. How ever what if it were the opposite? What is your sempai or my kuk sa nim sparring us at their fullest? I don't where your skill level is but personally.... in my sparring matches with my kuk sa nim I have only experienced half his ability once... and it left me out for quite some time. (I was becoming arrogent and forgetting my humbleness.) Keeping control (anger) is partially keeping your opponents abilities in mind. You certainly wouldn't spar a beginner at your fullest, would you? If you did chances are you'd nevre see that beginner again and if you did they would most certainly avoid you. What you discribed to me what once again, getting lost in the match, not losing control. Heh it's probably not your English. I think I can be a little dense sometimes. I believe I know what you are speaking of now though. I can see what you mean in terms of keeping anger out of the situation. I guess in the beginning of the argument, I was refering to two people specifically that are at the same level. Actually, this brings up a good point I've always wanted to discuss because I keep getting told two opposite things. Sometimes I am told to "stop thinking". Actually that's often. Let your body react instinctually, let the moves come naturally. That makes sense. (I think when I was speaking earlier, I got mixed up with 'lose control' and 'stop thinking'.) But on the other hand, you are to be tactful and to plan ahead for moves. As I do not do a whole lot of sparring, I am still having problems coming to terms with doing both those things at once. Any pointers? This means you shouldn't think about what you do or what your opponent will do. Look, observe, feel. Let your body do the work. What you want to avoid is going "Oh! An opening! Must hit! *hits*" instead of "! *hits*". Don't know if that's clear, though... ^^;
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:31 pm
Thats a very good question, the way me and my best friend/ training partner spar, would be what most ppl would call a full out brawl but we define it as sparring. ^_^
~X~
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:33 pm
Generally, the amount of padding you use.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:26 pm
I believe that the reason behind the encounter is what defines it as a spar, fight, or match. When we spar, it is only to work on techniques in order to improve them. A match is when you take your techniques and use them to allow yourself to win. A fight is when you use any technique to force the other guy to lose.
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