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 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:00 pm
TunaSandwitch nathan_ngl TunaSandwitch I completely agree with the first post. I just have one question:
Do I have to daven? I'm trying to daven at least once a week now that school is out, and that's because I thought davening was a must. But if it's optional for me to do, then I'll have less of a reason to daven. Davening shouldn't be done because it's an obligation... Davening should be done because you feel the need to pray towards G-d. And the answer to your question - no, women are not obligated. You should still try to pray at least once a week though 3nodding !
But in that case, do I get a sin every time I don't daven? Even if it's not an obligation, I didn't conquer my Yetzer Harah.don't even mention yetzer ha'ra talk2hand unless one knows exactly what one is doing, one will onely confuse and depress oneself. been there sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:03 pm
I do want to connect with God more. But if it's not a must, my Yetzer Harah (bad side) has a much easier time of persuading me to not daven.
But in that case, do I get a sin every time I don't daven? Even if it's not an obligation, I didn't conquer my Yetzer Harah.don't even mention yetzer ha'ra talk2hand
unless one knows exactly what one is doing, one will onely confuse and depress oneself. been there sweatdrop
Well, I've experienced the 'confusion' part.
And you didn't answer my question.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:47 pm
It's not a sin... You don't have to fight him in the first place for it, so if you don't do it, it's not a sin.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:53 pm
nathan_ngl It's not a sin... You don't have to fight him in the first place for it, so if you don't do it, it's not a sin.
(Wow, I'm going against myself in a way...)
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:58 pm
TunaSandwitch nathan_ngl It's not a sin... You don't have to fight him in the first place for it, so if you don't do it, it's not a sin.
(Wow, I'm going against myself in a way...)That part is ethical, and you have to decide whether to succumb to your desires... or to fight it and pray. The whole reason women aren't obligated to pray is because they don't have time. Even when they do have time they aren't obligated, but it certainly is pretty darn clear that they should try to do so. The rabbi's didn't say "a woman doesn't have to pray if she's busy", because businesss is relative. Instead, they removed the obligation intirely, and when the woman sees fit, she prays. So yes, in a way it wouldn't be best to just sit on your bum xd . It's not a sin, it's just not completing yourself in your goal as becomming complete with G-d. Pray is quite essetianal. If you feel you can't pray all the time, just say your personal prayer, but be sincere. There is nothing wrong with that.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:04 pm
nathan_ngl TunaSandwitch nathan_ngl It's not a sin... You don't have to fight him in the first place for it, so if you don't do it, it's not a sin.
(Wow, I'm going against myself in a way...)That part is ethical, and you have to decide whether to succumb to your desires... or to fight it and pray. The whole reason women aren't obligated to pray is because they don't have time. Even when they do have time they aren't obligated, but it certainly is pretty darn clear that they should try to do so. The rabbi's didn't say "a woman doesn't have to pray if she's busy", because businesss is relative. Instead, they removed the obligation intirely, and when the woman sees fit, she prays. So yes, in a way it wouldn't be best to just sit on your bum xd . It's not a sin, it's just not completing yourself in your goal as becomming complete with G-d. Pray is quite essetianal. If you feel you can't pray all the time, just say your personal prayer, but be sincere. There is nothing wrong with that.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:11 pm
Hey, I roam these forums 3-4 times a day for a reason blaugh
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:28 pm
xd Amazing how much you sounded like me right there, Tuna blaugh
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:38 pm
nathan_ngl Hey, I roam these forums 3-4 times a day for a reason blaugh cause you like me have no life 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:09 pm
nathan_ngl Hey, I roam these forums 3-4 times a day for a reason blaugh And we appreciate that so much, especially when you are up 5 am. XP Anyway thank you for your explanations and your time Nathan, you're awsome!
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:04 pm
Lady Pocky nathan_ngl Hey, I roam these forums 3-4 times a day for a reason blaugh And we appreciate that so much, especially when you are up 5 am. XP Anyway thank you for your explanations and your time Nathan, you're awsome! Don't talk about that 5am thing too much, Cindy won't be too happy xd .
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:34 am
who cares, even if you'll go to sleep at 5:00 am, you'll still be up at 7 am, i know you... you don't need to sleep more than 2 hours a day blaugh
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:20 am
tsshark who cares, even if you'll go to sleep at 5:00 am, you'll still be up at 7 am, i know you... you don't need to sleep more than 2 hours a day blaugh Got that right! sleep is cheating!
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:39 am
DarkHalcyon tsshark who cares, even if you'll go to sleep at 5:00 am, you'll still be up at 7 am, i know you... you don't need to sleep more than 2 hours a day blaugh Got that right! sleep is cheating! right. and only 2 kezisim of bread a day. no chewing.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:49 am
nathan_ngl Lady Pocky nathan_ngl Hey, I roam these forums 3-4 times a day for a reason blaugh And we appreciate that so much, especially when you are up 5 am. XP Anyway thank you for your explanations and your time Nathan, you're awsome! Don't talk about that 5am thing too much, Cindy won't be too happy xd . I'm not blind, you know. blaugh
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