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 Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:18 pm
God does love Satan, but many of us as humans and sinners cannot understand why. God would take Satan back any day if only he would come back to him, like anyone. God doesn't abandon anyone, no matter how far we stray. He is only a mislead soul . . .
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:40 pm
God doesn't hate. biggrin
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:24 pm
now I know why I left giaonline for a year...
Proverbs 6:16-19 states:
These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
A proud look
A lying tongue
Hands that shed innocent blood
A heart that devises wicked plans
Feet that are swift in running to evil
A false witness who speaks lies
And one who sows discord among brethren.
-NKJV
_____________________
notice the "one" in this, meaning 3rd person.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:08 am
i dont think he does love Satan anymore... cuz in the bible it says God Hates sin... and Satan created sin.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:22 pm
Scabby Bee God doesn't hate. biggrin This is very true, God can hate no more than water can become dry.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:29 pm
koreanusher i dont think he does love Satan anymore... cuz in the bible it says God Hates sin... and Satan created sin. To say God hates sin is to be semantically fuzzy. Hate, as it is usually seen is an emotion so powerful, it can only tie to personal beings. To say "I hate broccoli" uses a very petty and somewhat improper expression of emotion. Since sin is impersonal "hates" is less accurate than, "longs for the absance of." Satan did not "create" sin. He was the first to do it, but God created the possibility of sin. Sin is a natural element of freedom. If God had not allowed his creations to choose sin, they would amount to a big sign saying "Go God." God loved his creations enough to give them this freedom, to choose that which is contrary to Him. Also it is evident that God does not hate Satan. If God were to feel hate on the level we do for one being, tha being would be wiped from existance and time. Imagine, the mind which created the world in furious hate towards one thing; that thing could not continue to exist.
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:24 am
Jocken koreanusher i dont think he does love Satan anymore... cuz in the bible it says God Hates sin... and Satan created sin. To say God hates sin is to be semantically fuzzy. Hate, as it is usually seen is an emotion so powerful, it can only tie to personal beings. To say "I hate broccoli" uses a very petty and somewhat improper expression of emotion. Since sin is impersonal "hates" is less accurate than, "longs for the absance of." Satan did not "create" sin. He was the first to do it, but God created the possibility of sin. Sin is a natural element of freedom. If God had not allowed his creations to choose sin, they would amount to a big sign saying "Go God." God loved his creations enough to give them this freedom, to choose that which is contrary to Him. Also it is evident that God does not hate Satan. If God were to feel hate on the level we do for one being, tha being would be wiped from existance and time. Imagine, the mind which created the world in furious hate towards one thing; that thing could not continue to exist. I guess I'll repeat myself Proverbs 6:16-19 states: These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look A lying tongue Hands that shed innocent blood A heart that devises wicked plans Feet that are swift in running to evil A false witness who speaks lies And one who sows discord among brethren. -NKJV _____________________ notice the "one" in this, meaning 3rd person.
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:48 am
Jocken To say God hates sin is to be semantically fuzzy. Hate, as it is usually seen is an emotion so powerful, it can only tie to personal beings. To say "I hate broccoli" uses a very petty and somewhat improper expression of emotion. Since sin is impersonal "hates" is less accurate than, "longs for the absance of." Satan did not "create" sin. He was the first to do it, but God created the possibility of sin. Sin is a natural element of freedom. If God had not allowed his creations to choose sin, they would amount to a big sign saying "Go God." God loved his creations enough to give them this freedom, to choose that which is contrary to Him. Also it is evident that God does not hate Satan. If God were to feel hate on the level we do for one being, tha being would be wiped from existance and time. Imagine, the mind which created the world in furious hate towards one thing; that thing could not continue to exist. You are limiting God here. God can do all things, so why shouldn't he be able to allow that which He hates to exist?
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:33 pm
Chronowatcher Jocken koreanusher i dont think he does love Satan anymore... cuz in the bible it says God Hates sin... and Satan created sin. To say God hates sin is to be semantically fuzzy. Hate, as it is usually seen is an emotion so powerful, it can only tie to personal beings. To say "I hate broccoli" uses a very petty and somewhat improper expression of emotion. Since sin is impersonal "hates" is less accurate than, "longs for the absance of." Satan did not "create" sin. He was the first to do it, but God created the possibility of sin. Sin is a natural element of freedom. If God had not allowed his creations to choose sin, they would amount to a big sign saying "Go God." God loved his creations enough to give them this freedom, to choose that which is contrary to Him. Also it is evident that God does not hate Satan. If God were to feel hate on the level we do for one being, tha being would be wiped from existance and time. Imagine, the mind which created the world in furious hate towards one thing; that thing could not continue to exist. I guess I'll repeat myself Proverbs 6:16-19 states: These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look A lying tongue Hands that shed innocent blood A heart that devises wicked plans Feet that are swift in running to evil A false witness who speaks lies And one who sows discord among brethren. -NKJV _____________________ notice the "one" in this, meaning 3rd person. Although this translation uses the word "hate" it is not entirely representative of how we see that word. If God "hates" shedders of innocent blood, why does he allow them to live. Take Cain for example. He murdered his brother, whom the God loved, in cold blood, yet God still saw fit to preserve Cain's life against the wrath of others. My clain that since God is Love, He does not hate. He may disipline and condem actions, but He never feels the unconditional hate people can feel. And thank you Cometh for correcting me, it is fale to say God cannot hate. It is, however, true to say God will not hate. This point came up in a discussion I had about the seeming paradox of God being all powerful and perfect. The question was: "perfection implies that you do not contradict yourself, since God is perfect, is this not something He is unable to do? If so, does that not contradict His being all-powerful?" This, like hate, is an instance of God's wisdom coming into play. Basically, God can hate and he can contradict Himself, but He doesn't. God can destroy Himself but he chooses not to. God hating would be as much of a self-contradiction as microwaving a burrido so hot that He Himself could not eat it.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:19 am
I personally think God both loves and hates Satan.
God, I believe, loves almost everything. But I'm pretty sure he HATES evil and HATES the bad things that Satan does.
But still, God forgives and loves. So I do not believe God TOTALLY HATES Satan. But rather is angry with him and wants him to repent...but still love him.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:24 am
Jocken Chronowatcher Jocken koreanusher i dont think he does love Satan anymore... cuz in the bible it says God Hates sin... and Satan created sin. To say God hates sin is to be semantically fuzzy. Hate, as it is usually seen is an emotion so powerful, it can only tie to personal beings. To say "I hate broccoli" uses a very petty and somewhat improper expression of emotion. Since sin is impersonal "hates" is less accurate than, "longs for the absance of." Satan did not "create" sin. He was the first to do it, but God created the possibility of sin. Sin is a natural element of freedom. If God had not allowed his creations to choose sin, they would amount to a big sign saying "Go God." God loved his creations enough to give them this freedom, to choose that which is contrary to Him. Also it is evident that God does not hate Satan. If God were to feel hate on the level we do for one being, tha being would be wiped from existance and time. Imagine, the mind which created the world in furious hate towards one thing; that thing could not continue to exist. I guess I'll repeat myself Proverbs 6:16-19 states: These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look A lying tongue Hands that shed innocent blood A heart that devises wicked plans Feet that are swift in running to evil A false witness who speaks lies And one who sows discord among brethren. -NKJV _____________________ notice the "one" in this, meaning 3rd person. Although this translation uses the word "hate" it is not entirely representative of how we see that word. If God "hates" shedders of innocent blood, why does he allow them to live. Take Cain for example. He murdered his brother, whom the God loved, in cold blood, yet God still saw fit to preserve Cain's life against the wrath of others. My clain that since God is Love, He does not hate. He may disipline and condem actions, but He never feels the unconditional hate people can feel. And thank you Cometh for correcting me, it is fale to say God cannot hate. It is, however, true to say God will not hate. This point came up in a discussion I had about the seeming paradox of God being all powerful and perfect. The question was: "perfection implies that you do not contradict yourself, since God is perfect, is this not something He is unable to do? If so, does that not contradict His being all-powerful?" This, like hate, is an instance of God's wisdom coming into play. Basically, God can hate and he can contradict Himself, but He doesn't. God can destroy Himself but he chooses not to. God hating would be as much of a self-contradiction as microwaving a burrido so hot that He Himself could not eat it. Well ya, I guess God WOULD be contradicting himself if he hated someone. But I think God would DISLIKE somethings. God can't possibly LOVE evil and LOVE the bad things that Satan does. If he did it would be contradicting himself too.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:14 pm
Kodo I personally think God both loves and hates Satan. God, I believe, loves almost everything. But I'm pretty sure he HATES evil and HATES the bad things that Satan does. But still, God forgives and loves. So I do not believe God TOTALLY HATES Satan. But rather is angry with him and wants him to repent...but still love him. God does love everything (in the sense of tangible nouns). What you say demonstrates the incompleteness of the English language. I cannot really express these very specific notions since Englich does not posess words specific enough. The meanings of 'love' and 'hate' in English are way too ambiguous. I do think it is a safe conjecture to say God wants Satan to repent.
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:34 pm
Haven923 God IS Love. I personally do not beleive that he is capable of hatred. He can be angry, sad, hurt, loving, ashamed, etc. But I do not know of it saying that God hates ANYWHERE in the Bible. It is out of character for God to hate. Lucifer WAS God's top Angel. Possibly a Seraph. Lucifer had all of the powers of God. Lucifer decided to overpower God, but was banished to Hell. It was the Angel Michael that banished him. Some beleive that there was some sort of fight between the two. It was probally out of shame that God banished Lucifer. Lucifer fears God. He has to ask before he does 3nodding Take the story of Job for example. Lucifer went to God and asked him to put Job through trial. He had to ASK God. God gave him the boundry that he couldn't cross and Lucifer obediently obeyed.
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:19 pm
yes he does. It says in the bible to love your enemies. also in the bible it tell all these things like Satan is the enemy. like in the lord's prayer. "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the enemy"
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:12 am
I say yes, He loves him.
God loves everyone, including the sinners.
Satan is a great sinner, anyhow, God loves him... blaugh
**But I do not throw a thing; I don't say you to love evil sweatdrop
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