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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:43 pm
We can say why we personally keep kosher. Health reasons; humane slaughter of our meat animals; letting the land rest and replenish itself; to learn self-discipline and restraint; to accustom ourselves to obeying Hashem's laws; to separate ourselves somewhat from mainstream socialization and thus maintain our distinctiveness; and a plethora of other reasons.
That's why we keep kosher. But why were the laws of kashrut instituted? What were Hashem's motives? That, we don't know. It's a chok, a law for which we cannot fully understand the purpose(s). I'm sort of fine with that. If I could understand all the purposes of every law, I'd begin to suspect that the Lawgiver was understandable, rather than infinite and well above me. I think the creator of all things should be a lot more complex than I'm able to comprehend.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:31 pm
it's really hard but iquess i do it
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:58 am
Divash If I could understand all the purposes of every law, I'd begin to suspect that the Lawgiver was understandable, rather than infinite and well above me. I think the creator of all things should be a lot more complex than I'm able to comprehend. And I shall quote the words of the Rambam: "Know this - if you do not understand the reasoning of G-d, it is because of you're lack of understanding, for G-d's wisdom is infinate, and man's - finite".
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:16 am
nathan_ngl Divash If I could understand all the purposes of every law, I'd begin to suspect that the Lawgiver was understandable, rather than infinite and well above me. I think the creator of all things should be a lot more complex than I'm able to comprehend. And I shall quote the words of the Rambam: "Know this - if you do not understand the reasoning of G-d, it is because of you're lack of understanding, for G-d's wisdom is infinate, and man's - finite". Exactly! That's exactly what I meant.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:51 pm
I've heard that one reason pigs aren't kosher is because raising them originally used up too many resources. So they were like the ultimate symbol of conspicuous consumption.
True? A local Jewish theology professor wrote this in a book I've been reading.
As for myself, I've been trying to keep kosher ... here are the reasons I see for it:
+ It shows your faith in God and God's commandments + Shrimp and shellfish are more likely to have toxins in them if the water is polluted (this is why they weren't kosher in ancient times) + Pork is gross. (LOL, I've never liked pork) + Kosher slaughter is more humane. + As for the meat and milk thing, I don't eat them in the same meal, but I don't wait 6 hours between eating them. And I actually eat poultry and cheese sometimes (because in my opinion, chickens don't lactate, so it's ultimately a later rabbincal law that forbids all meat and cheese -- the commandment is concerning the dairy products of the same animal the meat is from, if I read correctly, and anyway, I'm not that Orthodox)
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:24 am
roothands I've heard that one reason pigs aren't kosher is because raising them originally used up too many resources. So they were like the ultimate symbol of conspicuous consumption.
True? A local Jewish theology professor wrote this in a book I've been reading.
As for myself, I've been trying to keep kosher ... here are the reasons I see for it:
+ It shows your faith in God and God's commandments + Shrimp and shellfish are more likely to have toxins in them if the water is polluted (this is why they weren't kosher in ancient times) + Pork is gross. (LOL, I've never liked pork) + Kosher slaughter is more humane. + As for the meat and milk thing, I don't eat them in the same meal, but I don't wait 6 hours between eating them. And I actually eat poultry and cheese sometimes (because in my opinion, chickens don't lactate, so it's ultimately a later rabbincal law that forbids all meat and cheese -- the commandment is concerning the dairy products of the same animal the meat is from, if I read correctly, and anyway, I'm not that Orthodox) good reason. I love the fact I know kosher slaughter is really almost painless and humane. I heard anothre reason why pork is unkosher that pigs weren't in the middle east naturally when ab's was born, and yes it is gross. I love shimp >.> it's the hardest thing for me to give up.
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:28 pm
YvetteEmilieDupont I heard anothre reason why pork is unkosher that pigs weren't in the middle east naturally when ab's was born i heard that we're really all reincarnated aliens. but i don't go around listening to tom cruise, do i?
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:07 pm
Another good reason to avoid pork, even if you're not Jewish or Muslim:
Pork tastes salty because pigs don't have sweat glands. All the impurities they absorb throughout their whole lives are still in their meat and fat. For those who have eaten pork, you remember how salty it was, right? Well, that's why. You were eating the sweat that pigs don't sweat out.
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:50 am
Divash Another good reason to avoid pork, even if you're not Jewish or Muslim: Pork tastes salty because pigs don't have sweat glands. All the impurities they absorb throughout their whole lives are still in their meat and fat. For those who have eaten pork, you remember how salty it was, right? Well, that's why. You were eating the sweat that pigs don't sweat out. ... Ugh. That's disgusting, really? My parents eat a lot of ham and my mother always complains about how salty it is. (Don't ask me why they keep eating it, then.) I should tell her that and see what she says. x_X
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:00 am
ZonkotheSane YvetteEmilieDupont I heard anothre reason why pork is unkosher that pigs weren't in the middle east naturally when ab's was born i heard that we're really all reincarnated aliens. but i don't go around listening to tom cruise, do i? >.> wtf is that supose to mean.
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:43 am
YvetteEmilieDupont ZonkotheSane YvetteEmilieDupont I heard anothre reason why pork is unkosher that pigs weren't in the middle east naturally when ab's was born i heard that we're really all reincarnated aliens. but i don't go around listening to tom cruise, do i? >.> wtf is that supose to mean. It means Tom Cruise is a effing fruit and he should keep his scientologist crap to himself. My friend is scientologist, but he isn't as retarded. I still wish he wasn't though...It's his choice though, so whatever floats his boat.
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:38 am
kingpinsqeezels YvetteEmilieDupont ZonkotheSane YvetteEmilieDupont I heard anothre reason why pork is unkosher that pigs weren't in the middle east naturally when ab's was born i heard that we're really all reincarnated aliens. but i don't go around listening to tom cruise, do i? >.> wtf is that supose to mean. It means Tom Cruise is a effing fruit and he should keep his scientologist crap to himself. My friend is scientologist, but he isn't as retarded. I still wish he wasn't though...It's his choice though, so whatever floats his boat. okay. I just wanted to make sur ehe wasn't like giving me s**t. >.> Ooo I also heard another reason why you dont' mix meat and dairy (don't kow if it's been said) but it suggested it helps with your digestive system.
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:18 am
YvetteEmilieDupont kingpinsqeezels YvetteEmilieDupont ZonkotheSane YvetteEmilieDupont I heard anothre reason why pork is unkosher that pigs weren't in the middle east naturally when ab's was born i heard that we're really all reincarnated aliens. but i don't go around listening to tom cruise, do i? >.> wtf is that supose to mean. It means Tom Cruise is a effing fruit and he should keep his scientologist crap to himself. My friend is scientologist, but he isn't as retarded. I still wish he wasn't though...It's his choice though, so whatever floats his boat. okay. I just wanted to make sur ehe wasn't like giving me s**t. >.> Ooo I also heard another reason why you dont' mix meat and dairy (don't kow if it's been said) but it suggested it helps with your digestive system. Yeah...I heard that too. I have a friend who used to body build and he ate kosher in that aspect to keep from...I dunno, clogging up the works. confused
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:03 pm
kingpinsqeezels YvetteEmilieDupont kingpinsqeezels YvetteEmilieDupont ZonkotheSane YvetteEmilieDupont I heard anothre reason why pork is unkosher that pigs weren't in the middle east naturally when ab's was born i heard that we're really all reincarnated aliens. but i don't go around listening to tom cruise, do i? >.> wtf is that supose to mean. It means Tom Cruise is a effing fruit and he should keep his scientologist crap to himself. My friend is scientologist, but he isn't as retarded. I still wish he wasn't though...It's his choice though, so whatever floats his boat. okay. I just wanted to make sur ehe wasn't like giving me s**t. >.> Ooo I also heard another reason why you dont' mix meat and dairy (don't kow if it's been said) but it suggested it helps with your digestive system. Yeah...I heard that too. I have a friend who used to body build and he ate kosher in that aspect to keep from...I dunno, clogging up the works. confused lol body builders amuse me tlel me about this friend lol
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:13 pm
YvetteEmilieDupont kingpinsqeezels YvetteEmilieDupont kingpinsqeezels YvetteEmilieDupont >.> wtf is that supose to mean. It means Tom Cruise is a effing fruit and he should keep his scientologist crap to himself. My friend is scientologist, but he isn't as retarded. I still wish he wasn't though...It's his choice though, so whatever floats his boat. okay. I just wanted to make sur ehe wasn't like giving me s**t. >.> Ooo I also heard another reason why you dont' mix meat and dairy (don't kow if it's been said) but it suggested it helps with your digestive system. Yeah...I heard that too. I have a friend who used to body build and he ate kosher in that aspect to keep from...I dunno, clogging up the works. confused lol body builders amuse me tlel me about this friend lol He's not very tall...So it's kinda funny. Then again, it's always the short ones with Napoleon Complex body building. xd
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