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DasUberGuy
Captain

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:31 pm


Doktor Jackal
DasUberGuy
So the fact that it was DIRECTLY STATED IN THE SHOW is not proof?

You've shown no screen caps and no manga scans. And here's why Thanos can kill Nabeshime. According to Das, Thanos with IG can beat Mr. Mxyzptlk. Mxy has actually gone into our universe and talked mano a mano with the current author.


Yet Mxy's powers aren't derived from rewriting the script.
PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:32 pm


Doktor Jackal
What?
Hm. I'd say touche...

But I think "pwned" is the word.

Still, it doesn't mean Thanos stands a chance.

Good call though, DJ.

I have yet to ever see an Anime character who is God's equal. I think you all are underestimating IG Thanos because of the fact that when it was his he screwed up because of his emotional backage. It's not Thanos vs. Countless. With the Space Gem, Thanos can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time, meaning he can fight them all mano a mano at the same time.


Then you've never seen Slayers, or Oh! My Goddess, or Tenchi, or a bunch of other animes.

Either that or you're just biased against the idea of an anime character being omnipotent.

DasUberGuy
Captain


DasUberGuy
Captain

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:33 pm


What?
And...if we really want to get picky...

Thanos is incapable of using the Infinity Gauntlet as the gems are now null when combined. But we won't go there.

I wholly support that Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet is Omnipotent based on the rules of the Marvel 616 Universe.

Without the mental capacity to utilize it properly however, he is left with a wide open weakness against emotional turmoil and heartache.

And we all know how angsty these anime shows can be...


Not to mention, as was explained in JLA/Avengers (which is canon), the gauntlet only works in the main Marvel universe. That's why Darkseid couldn't use it.
PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:56 pm


DasUberGuy
What?
And...if we really want to get picky...

Thanos is incapable of using the Infinity Gauntlet as the gems are now null when combined. But we won't go there.

I wholly support that Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet is Omnipotent based on the rules of the Marvel 616 Universe.

Without the mental capacity to utilize it properly however, he is left with a wide open weakness against emotional turmoil and heartache.

And we all know how angsty these anime shows can be...


Not to mention, as was explained in JLA/Avengers (which is canon), the gauntlet only works in the main Marvel universe. That's why Darkseid couldn't use it.


Well there you go.

Uber Pikachu Super Thunder Storm for the win.

Tsunami Tenchi Light Hawk Slash for the win.

Gojita Soul Punisher for the win.

Uber Knives Angel Arm Slash for the win.

I wonder if we should include the Japanese Gods we see in certain movies...

What?


StrikerCrimson

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:00 pm


What?
DasUberGuy
What?
And...if we really want to get picky...

Thanos is incapable of using the Infinity Gauntlet as the gems are now null when combined. But we won't go there.

I wholly support that Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet is Omnipotent based on the rules of the Marvel 616 Universe.

Without the mental capacity to utilize it properly however, he is left with a wide open weakness against emotional turmoil and heartache.

And we all know how angsty these anime shows can be...


Not to mention, as was explained in JLA/Avengers (which is canon), the gauntlet only works in the main Marvel universe. That's why Darkseid couldn't use it.


Well there you go.

Uber Pikachu Super Thunder Storm for the win.

Tsunami Tenchi Light Hawk Slash for the win.

Gojita Soul Punisher for the win.

Uber Knives Angel Arm Slash for the win.

I wonder if we should include the Japanese Gods we see in certain movies...


lol....... we dont want that much of an over kill what......
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:19 pm


We're assuming the Infinity Guantlet will work in the universe this fight takes place. And Das, I believe that you are biased that Anime characters are Omnipotent. And this is why What?'s attacks for the win won't work, They are all forms of energy and thus can be both negated and manipulated by the Power Gem alone, reguardless of Reality gem.

Count Omega


DasUberGuy
Captain

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:26 pm


That's funny, when Champion had the Power Gem he didn't 'negate or manipulate' any of Thanos' energy attacks.

And I can't believe you're calling ME biased.

If the characters are directly stated in the show to be omnipotent, and they demonstrate power that backs it up, you're the one being biased to say they're not omnipotent.
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:56 pm


DasUberGuy
That's funny, when Champion had the Power Gem he didn't 'negate or manipulate' any of Thanos' energy attacks.

And I can't believe you're calling ME biased.

If the characters are directly stated in the show to be omnipotent, and they demonstrate power that backs it up, you're the one being biased to say they're not omnipotent.

It's also funny that it takes a genius of Thanos' level to fully utilize the abilities of the gems. The Power Gem has control over Physical strength and energy. And yes, you are biased. Alucard has been called omnipotent in his own series and yet he's not.

Count Omega


DasUberGuy
Captain

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:00 pm


Except with the case of Alucard, it's obviously an exxageration, since Alucard can't do anything he wants by just thinking about it.

L - sama, the Chousein, Kamisama, etc. all can.
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:02 pm


DasUberGuy
Except with the case of Alucard, it's obviously an exxageration, since Alucard can't do anything he wants by just thinking about it.

L - sama, the Chousein, Kamisama, etc. all can.

I'm bringing in Cosmic-san on this. As most die hard comic fans know, Anime characters are rarely on the same level as Supers. Thus, I'm locking this until I get his unbiased opinion.

Count Omega


DasUberGuy
Captain

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:09 pm


Sorry, no can do.

Anyone who thinks anime characters in general are weaker than comic characters is certainly not 'unbiased'.

Both groups each have their share of powerful characters.
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:31 pm


We can also mention the sheer magnitude of Uber Powered Anime Characters.

There are a lot of different universes in the anime world.

I can invision the Overfiend joining the fray as well.

Or how about the many incarnations of Mars/Aries, the God of War?

Or maybe the multiple incarnations of the very saddness/hate/fear in the hearts of all mankind?

And lots and lots of Death figures should not be forgotten as nill.

Heh...Let's just for a second picture Sailor Moon with her boot on the chest of Lord Thanos in a Captain Morgan-esque victory pose.

What?


CosmicBeing
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:32 pm


I'm not even going to bother reading this whole thread because I frankly believe it would be a waste of time.

Thanos alone without the IG could waste a good 80% (or more) of anime characters in straight up combat without breaking a sweat.

Add in his vaunted preparation time and he could take out most any anime character including many of the "gods" and "cosmic" types. Dr. Doom stole the powers of the Beyonder without much problems, and Thanos is infinitly more intelligent than Doom. The man cloned Galactus (who is actually made of energy) and then actually destroyed the clone with one of his plans. Amongst his weaponry he has teleporting bombs that create black holes. He outsmarted the Elders of the Universe and stole their Infinity Gems. All of this being somewhat causallly planned.

The Infinity Gauntlet makes it's wearer omnipotent. With it, he can do anything. He defeated every single cosmic being that Marvel has in combat. He even defeated Eternity in combat. In the short time he controlled the IG, he had better control over reality than the embodiment of reality itself.

This is a brief list of what the gems can do on their own. Not even putting them together.

He can stop time. He can travel through time. He can send other people through time. He can reverse time and kill someone as a baby. He can advance time to the point where his enemy dies of old age. He aged an Elder several billion years in a couple of seconds.

He can control/erase/read minds. There is no defense against it. If you have a mind, then it basically belongs to him. Not even the combined might of Xavier, Dr. Strange, and Moondragon could combat this.

He can earse/banish/control souls. He can turn sinners into saints, and saints into blood thirsty cannibals. He can remove your soul and place into Soulworld (in the gem).

He can be anywhere in the universe at any time. The space gem allows him to send anyone else anywhere he wants as well. Be it a star or a black hole.

He can and has destroyed the universe several times over. The power gem destroyed a planet....when the user was only carrying it as a good luck charm. He didn't know it did anything and wasn't tapped into it at all. It's mere prescence gave the guy the power to do that. Thanos has full power of the gems.

He can earse you from exsistance. Physically, mentally, spiritually. He can make it so that you never exisited with a wave of the hand. No attack can hurt him since he controls all of reality and nothing happens that he does not want to happen.


NOW..... those are the gems separately. When used together their true power is unleashed. At which time Thanos is basically god.
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:35 pm


DasUberGuy
Sorry, no can do.

Anyone who thinks anime characters in general are weaker than comic characters is certainly not 'unbiased'.

Both groups each have their share of powerful characters.


Tis true. Anime has many many characters that are SUPER powerful. Many many Anime characters would beat the crap out of a lot of comic characters. It all depends on the who and the how. It depends on what they have been shown to be able to do.

But on the same note, Thanos with the IG is somewhat an "end all".

CosmicBeing
Vice Captain


DasUberGuy
Captain

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:35 pm


CosmicBeing
I'm not even going to bother reading this whole thread because I frankly believe it would be a waste of time.

Thanos alone without the IG could waste a good 80% (or more) of anime characters in straight up combat without breaking a sweat.

Add in his vaunted preparation time and he could take out most any anime character including many of the "gods" and "cosmic" types. Dr. Doom stole the powers of the Beyonder without much problems, and Thanos is infinitly more intelligent than Doom. The man cloned Galactus (who is actually made of energy) and then actually destroyed the clone with one of his plans. Amongst his weaponry he has teleporting bombs that create black holes. He outsmarted the Elders of the Universe and stole their Infinity Gems. All of this being somewhat causallly planned.

The Infinity Gauntlet makes it's wearer omnipotent. With it, he can do anything. He defeated every single cosmic being that Marvel has in combat. He even defeated Eternity in combat. In the short time he controlled the IG, he had better control over reality than the embodiment of reality itself.

This is a brief list of what the gems can do on their own. Not even putting them together.

He can stop time. He can travel through time. He can send other people through time. He can reverse time and kill someone as a baby. He can advance time to the point where his enemy dies of old age. He aged an Elder several billion years in a couple of seconds.

He can control/erase/read minds. There is no defense against it. If you have a mind, then it basically belongs to him. Not even the combined might of Xavier, Dr. Strange, and Moondragon could combat this.

He can earse/banish/control souls. He can turn sinners into saints, and saints into blood thirsty cannibals. He can remove your soul and place into Soulworld (in the gem).

He can be anywhere in the universe at any time. The space gem allows him to send anyone else anywhere he wants as well. Be it a star or a black hole.

He can and has destroyed the universe several times over. The power gem destroyed a planet....when the user was only carrying it as a good luck charm. He didn't know it did anything and wasn't tapped into it at all. It's mere prescence gave the guy the power to do that. Thanos has full power of the gems.

He can earse you from exsistance. Physically, mentally, spiritually. He can make it so that you never exisited with a wave of the hand. No attack can hurt him since he controls all of reality and nothing happens that he does not want to happen.


NOW..... those are the gems separately. When used together their true power is unleashed. At which time Thanos is basically god.


I've read the comics, thank you very much.

However, apparently you haven't read "Adam Warlock and the Infinity Watch", which proves the power of the gauntlet is no match for the Living Tribunal.

L - sama is above the Living Tribunal because she is the creator of a multiverse, not its overseer.
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