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 Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:44 pm
YvetteEmilieDupont darkphoenix1247 nathan_ngl I wonder where zonko has been? sweatdrop I dunno- it's been too quiet sad yea it has... you don't think something happened to him did you cry i was always so bad with teasing him. i mean not his fault he's so overly smart right. the guild.. feels.. inactive in a way. nathan is posting alot yes but we don't have the zonko and the things that come with zonko posting. cry darkphoenix1247 Zonko- feel free to give us your opinion; it is always enlightening to hear the other side (honestly-no sarcasm here), and your arguments are for the most part very logical and well thought out, with good contentions. 3nodding thank you. that means alot to me. but i've decided to leave this one alone, at least for the time being. naftali and esther seem to be holding down the orthadox fort well enough, and i find the less i say, the better. after all, this is one of the few real discussions we have in the guild, and i'd hate to ruin it by upsetting everyone.
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:20 pm
oh dear sweatdrop
i have already gone through all these lectures....
is it wrong to kiss/hold hands/other stuff...in my opinion yes. wai tfor marriage...
i just dont believe that people should make a huge deal out of little things, boys touch me all the time, and i dont care, theres one boy whos my friend and all the time he grabs at my sides, or tries to hug me, or pulls on my arms...and then he gets whiny and says "why do u have to be shomer? you arent the type!" every time i try and pull away
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:44 pm
ZonkotheSane thank you. that means alot to me. but i've decided to leave this one alone, at least for the time being. naftali and esther seem to be holding down the orthadox fort well enough, and i find the less i say, the better. after all, this is one of the few real discussions we have in the guild, and i'd hate to ruin it by upsetting everyone. That's so sad! Thanks for thinking and trying that, but seriously, as long as you phrase things correctly, it's fine to say your opinon 3nodding It's not as though the less you say the better- on the contrary, actually, but it's just the less mean/harsh/sarcastic things the better xp sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:09 am
darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane thank you. that means alot to me. but i've decided to leave this one alone, at least for the time being. naftali and esther seem to be holding down the orthadox fort well enough, and i find the less i say, the better. after all, this is one of the few real discussions we have in the guild, and i'd hate to ruin it by upsetting everyone. That's so sad! Thanks for thinking and trying that, but seriously, as long as you phrase things correctly, it's fine to say your opinon 3nodding It's not as though the less you say the better- on the contrary, actually, but it's just the less mean/harsh/sarcastic things the better xp sweatdrop Yea! We love your opinions zonko 3nodding (when you bring it up nicely rolleyes ). I just recently realised how important the sense of toutch is... without it, the soul is quite... hmmm empty confused .
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:56 am
nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane thank you. that means alot to me. but i've decided to leave this one alone, at least for the time being. naftali and esther seem to be holding down the orthadox fort well enough, and i find the less i say, the better. after all, this is one of the few real discussions we have in the guild, and i'd hate to ruin it by upsetting everyone. That's so sad! Thanks for thinking and trying that, but seriously, as long as you phrase things correctly, it's fine to say your opinon 3nodding It's not as though the less you say the better- on the contrary, actually, but it's just the less mean/harsh/sarcastic things the better xp sweatdrop Yea! We love your opinions zonko 3nodding (when you bring it up nicely rolleyes ). I just recently realised how important the sense of toutch is... without it, the soul is quite... hmmm empty confused . yep, you gotta like zonko, no matter what wink naphtali, i donno about the soul, but with out the sense of toutch, my hands will feel empty rofl
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:28 am
tsshark nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane thank you. that means alot to me. but i've decided to leave this one alone, at least for the time being. naftali and esther seem to be holding down the orthadox fort well enough, and i find the less i say, the better. after all, this is one of the few real discussions we have in the guild, and i'd hate to ruin it by upsetting everyone. That's so sad! Thanks for thinking and trying that, but seriously, as long as you phrase things correctly, it's fine to say your opinon 3nodding It's not as though the less you say the better- on the contrary, actually, but it's just the less mean/harsh/sarcastic things the better xp sweatdrop Yea! We love your opinions zonko 3nodding (when you bring it up nicely rolleyes ). I just recently realised how important the sense of toutch is... without it, the soul is quite... hmmm empty confused . yep, you gotta like zonko, no matter what wink naphtali, i donno about the soul, but with out the sense of toutch, my hands will feel empty rofl I certainly don't go around touching guys, but it wouldn't be the same learning a new lock or something if you can't touch someone. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:19 pm
darkphoenix1247 xp I certainly don't go around touching guys, but it wouldn't be the same learning a new lock or something if you can't touch someone. sweatdrop a)one could spar same sex b)ideally, such things are purely for leisure anyway. c)nobody expects you to be more observant than you are. if one is worried about such things, one should first worry about shabbos, or kashrus.
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:22 pm
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 xp I certainly don't go around touching guys, but it wouldn't be the same learning a new lock or something if you can't touch someone. sweatdrop a)one could spar same sex b)ideally, such things are purely for leisure anyway. c)nobody expects you to be more observant than you are. if one is worried about such things, one should first worry about shabbos, or kashrus. the problem is that there really aren't any other girls that take karate. sweatdrop In all honesty, is it a punishable offense to do this?
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:32 pm
darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 xp I certainly don't go around touching guys, but it wouldn't be the same learning a new lock or something if you can't touch someone. sweatdrop a)one could spar same sex b)ideally, such things are purely for leisure anyway. c)nobody expects you to be more observant than you are. if one is worried about such things, one should first worry about shabbos, or kashrus. the problem is that there really aren't any other girls that take karate. sweatdrop In all honesty, is it a punishable offense to do this? see c
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:37 pm
okay; thank you very much- I am working on that! 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:41 am
darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 xp I certainly don't go around touching guys, but it wouldn't be the same learning a new lock or something if you can't touch someone. sweatdrop a)one could spar same sex b)ideally, such things are purely for leisure anyway. c)nobody expects you to be more observant than you are. if one is worried about such things, one should first worry about shabbos, or kashrus. the problem is that there really aren't any other girls that take karate. sweatdrop In all honesty, is it a punishable offense to do this? It was something the rabbis put as a border line to protect us from going too far. As long as you understand why, I guess it's all okay ^^. But like Zonko said, there are WAY bigger issues than the sense of toutch, especially for you, since your quite sensible in the head, and know what your doing 3nodding .
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:50 am
Thank you! biggrin sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:06 pm
one of my rabbis told us, that you can touch a girl only when you need to defance yourself (if she's going to kill - eh,slap you or something) or when it's a formal matter, like if she's an important woman, and it wouldn't be nice if you want shake her hand ( and only if she gives you her hand, you must not give her yours). and again, just formal touch. a little handshake, no more.
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:48 am
tsshark one of my rabbis told us, that you can touch a girl only when you need to defance yourself (if she's going to kill - eh,slap you or something) or when it's a formal matter, like if she's an important woman, and it wouldn't be nice if you want shake her hand ( and only if she gives you her hand, you must not give her yours). and again, just formal touch. a little handshake, no more. And to try to make skin contact as brief as possible 3nodding . If you can get by with a nod of your head, even better 3nodding .
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