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 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:56 pm
Harvested Sorrow TheWickedEnd Harvested Sorrow Nyghtbringer
I love this quote, for I wish to present to everyone how silly these genres are.
TheWickedEnd Ok, first of all Dimmu is not Black Metal. They are Melodic Black Metal. Which is a subgenre of Black Metal. It's totally different 'effin genre. That does not display that genres are silly. It displays that people that speak about genres when they don't know what they're talking about are silly. xp So your saying even critics of all shapes and sizing who call Dimmu Borgir Melodic Black Metal don't know what they're talking about? Of course. Melodic black metal is a rather redundant statement, in itself. How so ?
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:35 pm
Black metal is the most melody oriented genre of metal. So to refer to something as "melodic black metal" is stupid.
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:38 pm
Harvested Sorrow Black metal is the most melody oriented genre of metal. So to refer to something as "melodic black metal" is stupid.
Thankyou.
No more with this 'black metal' and 'melodic black metal' arguement, and let there be more discussion on the actual thread's title and Dimmu Borgir, etc.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:10 pm
Most metal fans are considering Dimmu to be sort of the PoP of Black Metal, so to speak, because of their increase in fans and image. They have crawled from underground and have become one of the popular metal bands. Although a lot of the mass (people who do not listen to metal) haven't heard of them..they aren't as popular as Metallica to them. I still enjoy listening to them although they have become more widely known and popular for their genre. It isn't the scene that atracts me..it is the soul and the sound..I wouldn't care if they were in the business just to make money..I mean...who doesn't want to make money? As long as they sound good..I will listen to them..I know that I kind of trailed away from the main point of this post..but hey..I didn't make an asinine arguement at least. lol. Sorry this was so long..I just love Dimmu n.n;
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:56 pm
Kitana Saito Most metal fans are considering Dimmu to be sort of the PoP of Black Metal, so to speak, because of their increase in fans and image. They have crawled from underground and have become one of the popular metal bands. Although a lot of the mass (people who do not listen to metal) haven't heard of them..they aren't as popular as Metallica to them. I still enjoy listening to them although they have become more widely known and popular for their genre. It isn't the scene that atracts me..it is the soul and the sound..I wouldn't care if they were in the business just to make money..I mean...who doesn't want to make money? As long as they sound good..I will listen to them..I know that I kind of trailed away from the main point of this post..but hey..I didn't make an asinine arguement at least. lol. Sorry this was so long..I just love Dimmu n.n; Agreed, I could care less about the commercial popularity of a band. I really don't care how many people like them, or who does for that matter. If I like it, then I listen to it. End of story. And as far as the genre goes, I'm sure Dimmu is Symphonic Black Metal. I'm positive there is no Melodic Black Metal.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:34 pm
Dark Wintersun Kitana Saito Most metal fans are considering Dimmu to be sort of the PoP of Black Metal, so to speak, because of their increase in fans and image. They have crawled from underground and have become one of the popular metal bands. Although a lot of the mass (people who do not listen to metal) haven't heard of them..they aren't as popular as Metallica to them. I still enjoy listening to them although they have become more widely known and popular for their genre. It isn't the scene that atracts me..it is the soul and the sound..I wouldn't care if they were in the business just to make money..I mean...who doesn't want to make money? As long as they sound good..I will listen to them..I know that I kind of trailed away from the main point of this post..but hey..I didn't make an asinine arguement at least. lol. Sorry this was so long..I just love Dimmu n.n; Agreed, I could care less about the commercial popularity of a band. I really don't care how many people like them, or who does for that matter. If I like it, then I listen to it. End of story. And as far as the genre goes, I'm sure Dimmu is Symphonic Black Metal. I'm positive there is no Melodic Black Metal. well just about all of the re-issued Stormblast has some sort of Choir of Symphony in the background. it's ******** beautiful, by far my favorite Dimmu album. i agree with Harvested Sorrow-- melody is a key element in Black Metal itself, so a genre like "Melodic Black Metal" would be the same as "Melodic Melodic [Evil, usually paegan/satanic, misanthrope, depressing, hateful, typically high-pitched vocals] Metal". it IS redundant.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:34 am
Harvested Sorrow Black metal is the most melody oriented genre of metal. So to refer to something as "melodic black metal" is stupid. The most melody oriented genre of metal is Symphonic Metal. And back to the main topic: Dimmu was a great band once, but it sems they are becoming more pop day after day. Though, I wouldn't call them Pop Black Metal yet. That place is still property of Cradle of filth (if you even consider them black metal)
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:36 am
I still don't see how commercial popularity affects the quality of the music...
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:15 pm
Kitana Saito THRILL SEEKER Dark Wintersun Kitana Saito Most metal fans are considering Dimmu to be sort of the PoP of Black Metal, so to speak, because of their increase in fans and image. They have crawled from underground and have become one of the popular metal bands. Although a lot of the mass (people who do not listen to metal) haven't heard of them..they aren't as popular as Metallica to them. I still enjoy listening to them although they have become more widely known and popular for their genre. It isn't the scene that atracts me..it is the soul and the sound..I wouldn't care if they were in the business just to make money..I mean...who doesn't want to make money? As long as they sound good..I will listen to them..I know that I kind of trailed away from the main point of this post..but hey..I didn't make an asinine arguement at least. lol. Sorry this was so long..I just love Dimmu n.n; Agreed, I could care less about the commercial popularity of a band. I really don't care how many people like them, or who does for that matter. If I like it, then I listen to it. End of story. And as far as the genre goes, I'm sure Dimmu is Symphonic Black Metal. I'm positive there is no Melodic Black Metal. well just about all of the re-issued Stormblast has some sort of Choir of Symphony in the background. it's ******** beautiful, by far my favorite Dimmu album. i agree with Harvested Sorrow-- melody is a key element in Black Metal itself, so a genre like "Melodic Black Metal" would be the same as "Melodic Melodic [Evil, usually paegan/satanic, misanthrope, depressing, hateful, typically high-pitched vocals] Metal". it IS redundant. I also agree that it is very redundant...I am 100% sure there is no such thing as Melodic Black metal. I just knew they were Black Metal. n.n; Not true. Black metal in it's purest form is very grungy, very little melody involved, with the exception of some guitar parts. There are many variants of this genre, one of wich is melodic black metal, which invites clean vocals along with the dark vocals and leans more towards goth metal in it's tendencies.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:47 pm
the almighty beefcake Kitana Saito THRILL SEEKER Dark Wintersun Kitana Saito Most metal fans are considering Dimmu to be sort of the PoP of Black Metal, so to speak, because of their increase in fans and image. They have crawled from underground and have become one of the popular metal bands. Although a lot of the mass (people who do not listen to metal) haven't heard of them..they aren't as popular as Metallica to them. I still enjoy listening to them although they have become more widely known and popular for their genre. It isn't the scene that atracts me..it is the soul and the sound..I wouldn't care if they were in the business just to make money..I mean...who doesn't want to make money? As long as they sound good..I will listen to them..I know that I kind of trailed away from the main point of this post..but hey..I didn't make an asinine arguement at least. lol. Sorry this was so long..I just love Dimmu n.n; Agreed, I could care less about the commercial popularity of a band. I really don't care how many people like them, or who does for that matter. If I like it, then I listen to it. End of story. And as far as the genre goes, I'm sure Dimmu is Symphonic Black Metal. I'm positive there is no Melodic Black Metal. well just about all of the re-issued Stormblast has some sort of Choir of Symphony in the background. it's ******** beautiful, by far my favorite Dimmu album. i agree with Harvested Sorrow-- melody is a key element in Black Metal itself, so a genre like "Melodic Black Metal" would be the same as "Melodic Melodic [Evil, usually paegan/satanic, misanthrope, depressing, hateful, typically high-pitched vocals] Metal". it IS redundant. I also agree that it is very redundant...I am 100% sure there is no such thing as Melodic Black metal. I just knew they were Black Metal. n.n; Not true. Black metal in it's purest form is very grungy, very little melody involved, with the exception of some guitar parts. There are many variants of this genre, one of wich is melodic black metal, which invites clean vocals along with the dark vocals and leans more towards goth metal in it's tendencies. I agree, and it becomes more meodic when you add a protagonist instrument, like a cello or a some string that give it the melody
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:55 pm
Lordian Guard the almighty beefcake Kitana Saito THRILL SEEKER Dark Wintersun Kitana Saito Most metal fans are considering Dimmu to be sort of the PoP of Black Metal, so to speak, because of their increase in fans and image. They have crawled from underground and have become one of the popular metal bands. Although a lot of the mass (people who do not listen to metal) haven't heard of them..they aren't as popular as Metallica to them. I still enjoy listening to them although they have become more widely known and popular for their genre. It isn't the scene that atracts me..it is the soul and the sound..I wouldn't care if they were in the business just to make money..I mean...who doesn't want to make money? As long as they sound good..I will listen to them..I know that I kind of trailed away from the main point of this post..but hey..I didn't make an asinine arguement at least. lol. Sorry this was so long..I just love Dimmu n.n; Agreed, I could care less about the commercial popularity of a band. I really don't care how many people like them, or who does for that matter. If I like it, then I listen to it. End of story. And as far as the genre goes, I'm sure Dimmu is Symphonic Black Metal. I'm positive there is no Melodic Black Metal. well just about all of the re-issued Stormblast has some sort of Choir of Symphony in the background. it's ******** beautiful, by far my favorite Dimmu album. i agree with Harvested Sorrow-- melody is a key element in Black Metal itself, so a genre like "Melodic Black Metal" would be the same as "Melodic Melodic [Evil, usually paegan/satanic, misanthrope, depressing, hateful, typically high-pitched vocals] Metal". it IS redundant. I also agree that it is very redundant...I am 100% sure there is no such thing as Melodic Black metal. I just knew they were Black Metal. n.n; Not true. Black metal in it's purest form is very grungy, very little melody involved, with the exception of some guitar parts. There are many variants of this genre, one of wich is melodic black metal, which invites clean vocals along with the dark vocals and leans more towards goth metal in it's tendencies. I agree, and it becomes more meodic when you add a protagonist instrument, like a cello or a some string that give it the melody Black Metal in it's true form is anythign but melodic...agreed...I didn't sway from that.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:00 pm
Kitana Saito Lordian Guard the almighty beefcake Kitana Saito THRILL SEEKER well just about all of the re-issued Stormblast has some sort of Choir of Symphony in the background. it's ******** beautiful, by far my favorite Dimmu album. i agree with Harvested Sorrow-- melody is a key element in Black Metal itself, so a genre like "Melodic Black Metal" would be the same as "Melodic Melodic [Evil, usually paegan/satanic, misanthrope, depressing, hateful, typically high-pitched vocals] Metal". it IS redundant. I also agree that it is very redundant...I am 100% sure there is no such thing as Melodic Black metal. I just knew they were Black Metal. n.n; Not true. Black metal in it's purest form is very grungy, very little melody involved, with the exception of some guitar parts. There are many variants of this genre, one of wich is melodic black metal, which invites clean vocals along with the dark vocals and leans more towards goth metal in it's tendencies. I agree, and it becomes more meodic when you add a protagonist instrument, like a cello or a some string that give it the melody Black Metal in it's true form is anythign but melodic...agreed...I didn't sway from that. Black Metal + Melody = Different Genre Black Metal + Melody != Black Metal (!= is not equal to for anyone who doesn't know anything about programming xp )
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:06 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:13 pm
yeah im with this girl right here. its possiable for black metal to be pop? my world has just been turned upside down. up is down, left is right, women have rights? honestly, pop? black metal? wtf?
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