SoViEtTaNkT34
azulmagia
SoViEtTaNkT34
azulmagia
SoViEtTaNkT34
No computers and robotic automation should be used to eventually replace human labor to more of a want rather than a need.
I'm not talking about the robots vs. human labour issue.
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Storage is necessary for logistics and long term planning regardless. I mean sure we could just store print out copies or how about just get information via ticker tape at that point?
True, but it's impossible to generate every variant of every possible plan in advance. Correct quantities are going to have to be produced as they are needed, when they are needed. Massive databases aren't needed for that, just a solid technique. If data is to be stored, the main point would be to provide sufficient background knowledge for Bayesian tests of systemic stability. There is a rational kernel in the calculationist's argument. While it's true that a plan can be calculated with today's technology, there's more to the kind of planning that we want, and complexity dictates that there's no "abacus" for that. However it doesn't follow that the planning task is impossible, it means that instead of a metaphorical "abacus", we need metaphorical "scales" - just as we use scales to determine whether two weights are the same, without having to count each individual atom. This is the possibility that the calculationists overlook.
You lost me at Metaphorical abacus and Metaphorical scales. Also what do you mean by Rational Kernel? All I can think of when I think of Kernel is of a computing/linux Kernel.
Just this: systems of unfathomable complexity can still be managed, just not algorithmically, but heuristically. It's this option that Hayek et al. don't take into account.
See I dont think the "unfathomable complexity" is in fact that unfathomable when it comes to production. The fact that we literally have IBM tracking Pork to your Fork to me shows a far more algorithmic approach for distribution.
I could see heuristic approach when it comes with products you want to make sure are in stock but it doesnt make much sense. Unless your talking about luxury goods/inferior goods I can see your point but even then you have the data on people that buy vehicles, personal computers, etc etc
What makes the complexity of unfathomable level is not the production side as such but the dynamic interrelations in the total system between production and consumption, the various economic actors, the environmental context, etc.
