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 Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:04 pm
Artto Chieftain Twilight so I know for a fact that they are not reliable enough to be worthe the irritation of wearing during Sex. This is why I hate these condom conspiracy theories. You're implying that because they're not 100% reliable people shouldn't even bother. And this type of mindset is what spreads all these diseases and causes unwanted pregnancies. P.S.: The main cause of condoms failing is improper use. And it's actually counted in the statistics describing reliability. how the ******** is it "improper use"!? o_O; what, are my friends wearing them on their fingers? you don't wanna believe me, that's your business. I'm not telling people that they "shouldn't bother", I'm just saying that I've seen PLENTY of cases where it didn't work, not just Some, I've seen PLENTY! and that is why I PERSONALLY don't see the point in wearing them. they are irritating to wear, make it less enjoyable, and don't do a good enough job. I don't care if other folks wear them, what they do behind closed doors ain't my business. I'm not spinning crazy conspiracy theories here, I'm recounting my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and that of my Friends!
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:27 pm
Artto Aakosir Artto Aoksir The ones that require skin on skin contact are not prevented I don't know of any STD that transmits by skin on skin contact.
Here is another site that supports my theory.
Gonerrhea can be spread by touch. Found that here. I have heard that this is why women who have it, most of the time, have C section deliveries.I think these are a bit misleading. It's not skin on skin. It's lesion to mucus membrane (like the mouth, v****a or p***s) or lesion to wound. This is because the very function of the skin is to protect the body against pathogens. It is "by touch", of course, but it's not skin on skin. It's not like if you touch a sore you'll get it. You'll get it if you touch a sore with your mouth for example - which isn't exactly skin. And that's where condoms come in. They create a barrier between an infected part and your mucus membrane. Of course, that doesn't work in the case of herpes, where you can get it from kissing.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:38 pm
@Aakosir - The inside of the mouth is technically a mucous membrane, rather than 'skin' as it's more permeable to things than a thoroughly keratinised epithelium like the skin, which has many, many layers for things to pass through before they reach anywhere interesting.
That's why we (vet-nurse types) use the inside of the mouth as a test for how well oxygenated the patient is under anaesthesia. Unless they're a chow chow...then we swear wink
Of course this is probably another way those medical types are using pedantics to look smarter than everyone else wink
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:17 pm
Aakosir You don't have skin in your mouth? Hm... That's a new one. I'm pretty sure you have skin everywhere, it is just how thin and permeable it is. Do you have skin inside your colon? It's not skin, it's a mucus membrane. There is a huge difference, because pathogens can easily penetrate it, while skin is very resilient.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:22 pm
Chieftain Twilight Artto Chieftain Twilight so I know for a fact that they are not reliable enough to be worthe the irritation of wearing during Sex. This is why I hate these condom conspiracy theories. You're implying that because they're not 100% reliable people shouldn't even bother. And this type of mindset is what spreads all these diseases and causes unwanted pregnancies. P.S.: The main cause of condoms failing is improper use. And it's actually counted in the statistics describing reliability. how the ******** is it "improper use"!? o_O; what, are my friends wearing them on their fingers? you don't wanna believe me, that's your business. I'm not telling people that they "shouldn't bother", I'm just saying that I've seen PLENTY of cases where it didn't work, not just Some, I've seen PLENTY! and that is why I PERSONALLY don't see the point in wearing them. they are irritating to wear, make it less enjoyable, and don't do a good enough job. I don't care if other folks wear them, what they do behind closed doors ain't my business. I'm not spinning crazy conspiracy theories here, I'm recounting my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and that of my Friends! Chill dude. Improper use may be using expired condoms, using two condoms at once, unrolling it the wrong way, putting the condom on too late, keeping it in your wallet, where it's susceptible to wear and tear, storing the condom in a hot place, like a car, re-using a condom, pulling out too late, so the condom can slip off, using condoms that are too large or too small etc.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:28 pm
Catharia @Aakosir - The inside of the mouth is technically a mucous membrane, rather than 'skin' as it's more permeable to things than a thoroughly keratinised epithelium like the skin, which has many, many layers for things to pass through before they reach anywhere interesting. That's why we (vet-nurse types) use the inside of the mouth as a test for how well oxygenated the patient is under anaesthesia. Unless they're a chow chow...then we swear wink Of course this is probably another way those medical types are using pedantics to look smarter than everyone else wink
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:54 pm
Artto Chieftain Twilight Artto Chieftain Twilight so I know for a fact that they are not reliable enough to be worthe the irritation of wearing during Sex. This is why I hate these condom conspiracy theories. You're implying that because they're not 100% reliable people shouldn't even bother. And this type of mindset is what spreads all these diseases and causes unwanted pregnancies. P.S.: The main cause of condoms failing is improper use. And it's actually counted in the statistics describing reliability. how the ******** is it "improper use"!? o_O; what, are my friends wearing them on their fingers? you don't wanna believe me, that's your business. I'm not telling people that they "shouldn't bother", I'm just saying that I've seen PLENTY of cases where it didn't work, not just Some, I've seen PLENTY! and that is why I PERSONALLY don't see the point in wearing them. they are irritating to wear, make it less enjoyable, and don't do a good enough job. I don't care if other folks wear them, what they do behind closed doors ain't my business. I'm not spinning crazy conspiracy theories here, I'm recounting my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and that of my Friends! Chill dude. Improper use may be using expired condoms, using two condoms at once, unrolling it the wrong way, putting the condom on too late, keeping it in your wallet, where it's susceptible to wear and tear, storing the condom in a hot place, like a car, re-using a condom, pulling out too late, so the condom can slip off, using condoms that are too large or too small etc. excuse my temper... Crannberry Juice and Ibuprofen helps, I appologize for biting heads off.
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:30 am
Aakosir Hm... But it is still technically a form of skin? I never got to that in human anatomy. I didn't have the best experience in school that year... I understand about being permeable and all, but I thought membranes like that were something on cells. The cells in mucus membranes are directly exposed (well, aside from the mucus razz ), while the skin is covered by a fairly thick layer of dead, keratinised cells. It's just that saying it's transmittable by skin-on-skin contact makes it sound you're gonna get herpes if you just touch someone with herpes razz
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:29 pm
Artto Aakosir Hm... But it is still technically a form of skin? I never got to that in human anatomy. I didn't have the best experience in school that year... I understand about being permeable and all, but I thought membranes like that were something on cells. The cells in mucus membranes are directly exposed (well, aside from the mucus razz ), while the skin is covered by a fairly thick layer of dead, keratinised cells. It's just that saying it's transmittable by skin-on-skin contact makes it sound you're gonna get herpes if you just touch someone with herpes razz
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:31 pm
Artto Chieftain Twilight Artto Chieftain Twilight so I know for a fact that they are not reliable enough to be worthe the irritation of wearing during Sex. This is why I hate these condom conspiracy theories. You're implying that because they're not 100% reliable people shouldn't even bother. And this type of mindset is what spreads all these diseases and causes unwanted pregnancies. P.S.: The main cause of condoms failing is improper use. And it's actually counted in the statistics describing reliability. how the ******** is it "improper use"!? o_O; what, are my friends wearing them on their fingers? you don't wanna believe me, that's your business. I'm not telling people that they "shouldn't bother", I'm just saying that I've seen PLENTY of cases where it didn't work, not just Some, I've seen PLENTY! and that is why I PERSONALLY don't see the point in wearing them. they are irritating to wear, make it less enjoyable, and don't do a good enough job. I don't care if other folks wear them, what they do behind closed doors ain't my business. I'm not spinning crazy conspiracy theories here, I'm recounting my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and that of my Friends! Chill dude. Improper use may be using expired condoms, using two condoms at once, unrolling it the wrong way, putting the condom on too late, keeping it in your wallet, where it's susceptible to wear and tear, storing the condom in a hot place, like a car, re-using a condom, pulling out too late, so the condom can slip off, using condoms that are too large or too small etc.
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:05 pm
Aakosir Artto Aakosir Hm... But it is still technically a form of skin? I never got to that in human anatomy. I didn't have the best experience in school that year... I understand about being permeable and all, but I thought membranes like that were something on cells. The cells in mucus membranes are directly exposed (well, aside from the mucus razz ), while the skin is covered by a fairly thick layer of dead, keratinised cells. It's just that saying it's transmittable by skin-on-skin contact makes it sound you're gonna get herpes if you just touch someone with herpes razz I once read that there were sores that you could develop on your fingers as a result of herpes though. Not sure if there is any truth to that.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:56 pm
Personally I find the pill is very useful for me. At 16 I don't want to get pregnant, I am not capable both mentally and financially to handle a baby. I currently have a boyfriend who I am very close to and although we don't have sex yet we will be soon. As Chieftain pointed out condoms can not work sometimes so I feel better and safer knowing I have a back-up. As side effects I have found my period comes regular (before it would be all over the calendar, but now I can plan for it XD) and my acne is not as bad as it used to be.
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:20 am
Broken_Glass_Bleeds Personally I find the pill is very useful for me. At 16 I don't want to get pregnant, I am not capable both mentally and financially to handle a baby. I currently have a boyfriend who I am very close to and although we don't have sex yet we will be soon. As Chieftain pointed out condoms can not work sometimes so I feel better and safer knowing I have a back-up. As side effects I have found my period comes regular (before it would be all over the calendar, but now I can plan for it XD) and my acne is not as bad as it used to be.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:40 pm
Aakosir Broken_Glass_Bleeds Personally I find the pill is very useful for me. At 16 I don't want to get pregnant, I am not capable both mentally and financially to handle a baby. I currently have a boyfriend who I am very close to and although we don't have sex yet we will be soon. As Chieftain pointed out condoms can not work sometimes so I feel better and safer knowing I have a back-up. As side effects I have found my period comes regular (before it would be all over the calendar, but now I can plan for it XD) and my acne is not as bad as it used to be. Well everyone is different. The pill may work wonders for some people and for others it may mess up their system too much.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:46 am
Broken_Glass_Bleeds Aakosir Broken_Glass_Bleeds Personally I find the pill is very useful for me. At 16 I don't want to get pregnant, I am not capable both mentally and financially to handle a baby. I currently have a boyfriend who I am very close to and although we don't have sex yet we will be soon. As Chieftain pointed out condoms can not work sometimes so I feel better and safer knowing I have a back-up. As side effects I have found my period comes regular (before it would be all over the calendar, but now I can plan for it XD) and my acne is not as bad as it used to be. Well everyone is different. The pill may work wonders for some people and for others it may mess up their system too much.
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