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Cult Leader Red

Unbeatable Lunatic

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:56 pm


neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
ok more strange questions
1.if you were to bind or constrict a spirit of some sort to an item what do u think would be the best item to use
2. servitor information
3. how about magic of some sort that puts someone to sleep, changes mood, etc. in other words passive effects
4. strange forms of divination
5.any ways to summon yokai (specifically yokai i mean so not demons or other spirits)


1: I would, never under any condition promote such an attempt at even trying to do such a thing. It's utterly disrespectful to the spirit, and a bad idea.
4: Define strange? I'm a necromancer, and the strangest (also dumbest) I've ever done is to actually glimpse the afterlife itself. Why so strange and dumb? There really is only one way to get there, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows what it is. It's getting back, that tends to be the problem for most, that's why you only do it briefly, and under strict supervision.
I will not however teach my methods, it took a long time for my teacher to consider teaching me Necromancy, and I will be very similar to her, and only accept the right student. In short, do not try this at home, I will not be responsible.
5: Summon? As in bring something into a tangible form among the living, here?
Beyond being science fiction nonsense, that's also pretty damn stupid. Even if you could, bringing anything that is not natural, among the natural world would end excessively poorly, and likely end in at least some serious injury due to the nature of humanity.


first of all respect is not a given, what makes you think any given spirit would deserve respect simply for being a spirit? and why a bad idea? you are a spirit and so am i. also one should not assume one has power over you. if you do then you are simply submitting your will power
second i did know about necromancy
third by summon i mean call forth in any way. also do you know what a yokai is? being connected to shintoism they are very connected to the "natural" world. you might want to look that up and possibly the definition of summon next time. now if i were to say conjure for example that would be another story but yokai are literally supposed to originate here and exist here excluding oni.
There is never a reason to try to bind, or constrict a spirit, under any condition. If you would not do it to other humans, why do it to something like a spirit?

If they originate here, then why would you need to summon one? Just go out to their natural habitat and grab one.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:14 am


Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
ok more strange questions
1.if you were to bind or constrict a spirit of some sort to an item what do u think would be the best item to use
2. servitor information
3. how about magic of some sort that puts someone to sleep, changes mood, etc. in other words passive effects
4. strange forms of divination
5.any ways to summon yokai (specifically yokai i mean so not demons or other spirits)


1: I would, never under any condition promote such an attempt at even trying to do such a thing. It's utterly disrespectful to the spirit, and a bad idea.
4: Define strange? I'm a necromancer, and the strangest (also dumbest) I've ever done is to actually glimpse the afterlife itself. Why so strange and dumb? There really is only one way to get there, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows what it is. It's getting back, that tends to be the problem for most, that's why you only do it briefly, and under strict supervision.
I will not however teach my methods, it took a long time for my teacher to consider teaching me Necromancy, and I will be very similar to her, and only accept the right student. In short, do not try this at home, I will not be responsible.
5: Summon? As in bring something into a tangible form among the living, here?
Beyond being science fiction nonsense, that's also pretty damn stupid. Even if you could, bringing anything that is not natural, among the natural world would end excessively poorly, and likely end in at least some serious injury due to the nature of humanity.


first of all respect is not a given, what makes you think any given spirit would deserve respect simply for being a spirit? and why a bad idea? you are a spirit and so am i. also one should not assume one has power over you. if you do then you are simply submitting your will power
second i did know about necromancy
third by summon i mean call forth in any way. also do you know what a yokai is? being connected to shintoism they are very connected to the "natural" world. you might want to look that up and possibly the definition of summon next time. now if i were to say conjure for example that would be another story but yokai are literally supposed to originate here and exist here excluding oni.
There is never a reason to try to bind, or constrict a spirit, under any condition. If you would not do it to other humans, why do it to something like a spirit?

If they originate here, then why would you need to summon one? Just go out to their natural habitat and grab one.

um why not, its called prison. we do it all the time. not all spirits are good

they are essentially demons. the difference is that they dont originate or reside in hell (excluding oni) like western demons, nor are they inherintly evil. they here on earth apparently. why would i not just grab one? because that would be kinda rude and unessesary. also although i have no problem with it you should realize that many were possibly human at some point like
yuki-onna. althought they can be bad such as some ghosts called yurei (think aobut the move the grudge or the ring) they can be more innocent like tanuki

neko-mata-01


Cult Leader Red

Unbeatable Lunatic

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:32 am


neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
ok more strange questions
1.if you were to bind or constrict a spirit of some sort to an item what do u think would be the best item to use
2. servitor information
3. how about magic of some sort that puts someone to sleep, changes mood, etc. in other words passive effects
4. strange forms of divination
5.any ways to summon yokai (specifically yokai i mean so not demons or other spirits)


1: I would, never under any condition promote such an attempt at even trying to do such a thing. It's utterly disrespectful to the spirit, and a bad idea.
4: Define strange? I'm a necromancer, and the strangest (also dumbest) I've ever done is to actually glimpse the afterlife itself. Why so strange and dumb? There really is only one way to get there, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows what it is. It's getting back, that tends to be the problem for most, that's why you only do it briefly, and under strict supervision.
I will not however teach my methods, it took a long time for my teacher to consider teaching me Necromancy, and I will be very similar to her, and only accept the right student. In short, do not try this at home, I will not be responsible.
5: Summon? As in bring something into a tangible form among the living, here?
Beyond being science fiction nonsense, that's also pretty damn stupid. Even if you could, bringing anything that is not natural, among the natural world would end excessively poorly, and likely end in at least some serious injury due to the nature of humanity.


first of all respect is not a given, what makes you think any given spirit would deserve respect simply for being a spirit? and why a bad idea? you are a spirit and so am i. also one should not assume one has power over you. if you do then you are simply submitting your will power
second i did know about necromancy
third by summon i mean call forth in any way. also do you know what a yokai is? being connected to shintoism they are very connected to the "natural" world. you might want to look that up and possibly the definition of summon next time. now if i were to say conjure for example that would be another story but yokai are literally supposed to originate here and exist here excluding oni.
There is never a reason to try to bind, or constrict a spirit, under any condition. If you would not do it to other humans, why do it to something like a spirit?

If they originate here, then why would you need to summon one? Just go out to their natural habitat and grab one.

um why not, its called prison. we do it all the time. not all spirits are good

they are essentially demons. the difference is that they dont originate or reside in hell (excluding oni) like western demons, nor are they inherintly evil. they here on earth apparently. why would i not just grab one? because that would be kinda rude and unessesary. also although i have no problem with it you should realize that many were possibly human at some point like
yuki-onna. althought they can be bad such as some ghosts called yurei (think aobut the move the grudge or the ring) they can be more innocent like tanuki
imprisoning people against their will is kinda a crime. You're not any form of legal authority, and have no reason to imprison anything.

That makes no sense... At all. Never heard of whatever you are speaking of so... can't help you. Doesn't sound like anything real though.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:37 am


Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
ok more strange questions
1.if you were to bind or constrict a spirit of some sort to an item what do u think would be the best item to use
2. servitor information
3. how about magic of some sort that puts someone to sleep, changes mood, etc. in other words passive effects
4. strange forms of divination
5.any ways to summon yokai (specifically yokai i mean so not demons or other spirits)


1: I would, never under any condition promote such an attempt at even trying to do such a thing. It's utterly disrespectful to the spirit, and a bad idea.
4: Define strange? I'm a necromancer, and the strangest (also dumbest) I've ever done is to actually glimpse the afterlife itself. Why so strange and dumb? There really is only one way to get there, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows what it is. It's getting back, that tends to be the problem for most, that's why you only do it briefly, and under strict supervision.
I will not however teach my methods, it took a long time for my teacher to consider teaching me Necromancy, and I will be very similar to her, and only accept the right student. In short, do not try this at home, I will not be responsible.
5: Summon? As in bring something into a tangible form among the living, here?
Beyond being science fiction nonsense, that's also pretty damn stupid. Even if you could, bringing anything that is not natural, among the natural world would end excessively poorly, and likely end in at least some serious injury due to the nature of humanity.


first of all respect is not a given, what makes you think any given spirit would deserve respect simply for being a spirit? and why a bad idea? you are a spirit and so am i. also one should not assume one has power over you. if you do then you are simply submitting your will power
second i did know about necromancy
third by summon i mean call forth in any way. also do you know what a yokai is? being connected to shintoism they are very connected to the "natural" world. you might want to look that up and possibly the definition of summon next time. now if i were to say conjure for example that would be another story but yokai are literally supposed to originate here and exist here excluding oni.
There is never a reason to try to bind, or constrict a spirit, under any condition. If you would not do it to other humans, why do it to something like a spirit?

If they originate here, then why would you need to summon one? Just go out to their natural habitat and grab one.

um why not, its called prison. we do it all the time. not all spirits are good

they are essentially demons. the difference is that they dont originate or reside in hell (excluding oni) like western demons, nor are they inherintly evil. they here on earth apparently. why would i not just grab one? because that would be kinda rude and unessesary. also although i have no problem with it you should realize that many were possibly human at some point like
yuki-onna. althought they can be bad such as some ghosts called yurei (think aobut the move the grudge or the ring) they can be more innocent like tanuki
imprisoning people against their will is kinda a crime. You're not any form of legal authority, and have no reason to imprison anything.

That makes no sense... At all. Never heard of whatever you are speaking of so... can't help you. Doesn't sound like anything real though.

um then who would be a legal authority? if for some reason a spirit was acting evil i would imprison or aprihend it regardless

and look it up. its part of japanese folklore and religion essentialy

neko-mata-01


Cult Leader Red

Unbeatable Lunatic

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:04 am


neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01


first of all respect is not a given, what makes you think any given spirit would deserve respect simply for being a spirit? and why a bad idea? you are a spirit and so am i. also one should not assume one has power over you. if you do then you are simply submitting your will power
second i did know about necromancy
third by summon i mean call forth in any way. also do you know what a yokai is? being connected to shintoism they are very connected to the "natural" world. you might want to look that up and possibly the definition of summon next time. now if i were to say conjure for example that would be another story but yokai are literally supposed to originate here and exist here excluding oni.
There is never a reason to try to bind, or constrict a spirit, under any condition. If you would not do it to other humans, why do it to something like a spirit?

If they originate here, then why would you need to summon one? Just go out to their natural habitat and grab one.

um why not, its called prison. we do it all the time. not all spirits are good

they are essentially demons. the difference is that they dont originate or reside in hell (excluding oni) like western demons, nor are they inherintly evil. they here on earth apparently. why would i not just grab one? because that would be kinda rude and unessesary. also although i have no problem with it you should realize that many were possibly human at some point like
yuki-onna. althought they can be bad such as some ghosts called yurei (think aobut the move the grudge or the ring) they can be more innocent like tanuki
imprisoning people against their will is kinda a crime. You're not any form of legal authority, and have no reason to imprison anything.

That makes no sense... At all. Never heard of whatever you are speaking of so... can't help you. Doesn't sound like anything real though.

um then who would be a legal authority? if for some reason a spirit was acting evil i would imprison or aprihend it regardless

and look it up. its part of japanese folklore and religion essentialy


If anything is that evil, first it would not waste it's time with anything around you. You aren't anything all that special, regardless of what you may think. Doing so makes you in fact the evil one, for trying to detain what you likely hold the misconception of being evil. You're likely trying to detain a perfectly "good" individual, and that is just asking for trouble. However, the misconception that anything can be innately evil is just that. The duality mentality of things being good, and evil by nature is very mistaken. It's a misconception of a rather underdeveloped mind, that has been corrupted by the very easy patterns of thought to fall into.
If something really was evil, you wouldn't really be in any position to do anything. Not because it would be hostile toward you, but because it would not. It would be out burning the entire human population to ashes, just because they were annoying little animals. Nothing like this even exists, if it did, certainly would not be caught by you, even if you tried. It is always a more wise action to attempt to learn the reasons behind others actions, and if you disagree, simply do not involve yourself. But do remember that evil is not something you are in a place to judge, and I will never under any condition condone such actions, or associate myself with anyone who does.

A lot of things in folk lore are not real. I'm not saying it was never spoken of, just does not sound like an actual animal. Too much in fact sounds utterly ridiculous. I could be wrong, but if I am, I have no idea what to attempt to bait it with. Good luck on your hunt though.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:30 am


Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01


first of all respect is not a given, what makes you think any given spirit would deserve respect simply for being a spirit? and why a bad idea? you are a spirit and so am i. also one should not assume one has power over you. if you do then you are simply submitting your will power
second i did know about necromancy
third by summon i mean call forth in any way. also do you know what a yokai is? being connected to shintoism they are very connected to the "natural" world. you might want to look that up and possibly the definition of summon next time. now if i were to say conjure for example that would be another story but yokai are literally supposed to originate here and exist here excluding oni.
There is never a reason to try to bind, or constrict a spirit, under any condition. If you would not do it to other humans, why do it to something like a spirit?

If they originate here, then why would you need to summon one? Just go out to their natural habitat and grab one.

um why not, its called prison. we do it all the time. not all spirits are good

they are essentially demons. the difference is that they dont originate or reside in hell (excluding oni) like western demons, nor are they inherintly evil. they here on earth apparently. why would i not just grab one? because that would be kinda rude and unessesary. also although i have no problem with it you should realize that many were possibly human at some point like
yuki-onna. althought they can be bad such as some ghosts called yurei (think aobut the move the grudge or the ring) they can be more innocent like tanuki
imprisoning people against their will is kinda a crime. You're not any form of legal authority, and have no reason to imprison anything.

That makes no sense... At all. Never heard of whatever you are speaking of so... can't help you. Doesn't sound like anything real though.

um then who would be a legal authority? if for some reason a spirit was acting evil i would imprison or aprihend it regardless

and look it up. its part of japanese folklore and religion essentialy


If anything is that evil, first it would not waste it's time with anything around you. You aren't anything all that special, regardless of what you may think. Doing so makes you in fact the evil one, for trying to detain what you likely hold the misconception of being evil. You're likely trying to detain a perfectly "good" individual, and that is just asking for trouble. However, the misconception that anything can be innately evil is just that. The duality mentality of things being good, and evil by nature is very mistaken. It's a misconception of a rather underdeveloped mind, that has been corrupted by the very easy patterns of thought to fall into.
If something really was evil, you wouldn't really be in any position to do anything. Not because it would be hostile toward you, but because it would not. It would be out burning the entire human population to ashes, just because they were annoying little animals. Nothing like this even exists, if it did, certainly would not be caught by you, even if you tried. It is always a more wise action to attempt to learn the reasons behind others actions, and if you disagree, simply do not involve yourself. But do remember that evil is not something you are in a place to judge, and I will never under any condition condone such actions, or associate myself with anyone who does.

A lot of things in folk lore are not real. I'm not saying it was never spoken of, just does not sound like an actual animal. Too much in fact sounds utterly ridiculous. I could be wrong, but if I am, I have no idea what to attempt to bait it with. Good luck on your hunt though.


evil is different to many people and it is rare for people to beleive it of them selves. judgement of evil must be left up to the individual, if not one can not truly say they have a morality. its not about whether it would hurt me or not, but if it desires to harm anything out of malice then i must take action. if one allows evil deeds to happen then they might as well be saying they are ok with it. saying for certain that something would be caught by me is once again an assumption you have made. oh and as for learning reasons behind something's actions, i find that usualy irrelavant. if one is harming others at random then that reason is void to me.
oh and dont think that im trying to be good, i am nuetral

as for folk lore you are right, however it is not a certainty. and once again if you havent read about it, yokai are not always animals. nothing is rediculous unless it completely defies logic, no monsters in cryptozoology are attributed to this, and even if they are there is a magic based reason

neko-mata-01


Cult Leader Red

Unbeatable Lunatic

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:28 pm


neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01

um why not, its called prison. we do it all the time. not all spirits are good

they are essentially demons. the difference is that they dont originate or reside in hell (excluding oni) like western demons, nor are they inherintly evil. they here on earth apparently. why would i not just grab one? because that would be kinda rude and unessesary. also although i have no problem with it you should realize that many were possibly human at some point like
yuki-onna. althought they can be bad such as some ghosts called yurei (think aobut the move the grudge or the ring) they can be more innocent like tanuki
imprisoning people against their will is kinda a crime. You're not any form of legal authority, and have no reason to imprison anything.

That makes no sense... At all. Never heard of whatever you are speaking of so... can't help you. Doesn't sound like anything real though.

um then who would be a legal authority? if for some reason a spirit was acting evil i would imprison or aprihend it regardless

and look it up. its part of japanese folklore and religion essentialy


If anything is that evil, first it would not waste it's time with anything around you. You aren't anything all that special, regardless of what you may think. Doing so makes you in fact the evil one, for trying to detain what you likely hold the misconception of being evil. You're likely trying to detain a perfectly "good" individual, and that is just asking for trouble. However, the misconception that anything can be innately evil is just that. The duality mentality of things being good, and evil by nature is very mistaken. It's a misconception of a rather underdeveloped mind, that has been corrupted by the very easy patterns of thought to fall into.
If something really was evil, you wouldn't really be in any position to do anything. Not because it would be hostile toward you, but because it would not. It would be out burning the entire human population to ashes, just because they were annoying little animals. Nothing like this even exists, if it did, certainly would not be caught by you, even if you tried. It is always a more wise action to attempt to learn the reasons behind others actions, and if you disagree, simply do not involve yourself. But do remember that evil is not something you are in a place to judge, and I will never under any condition condone such actions, or associate myself with anyone who does.

A lot of things in folk lore are not real. I'm not saying it was never spoken of, just does not sound like an actual animal. Too much in fact sounds utterly ridiculous. I could be wrong, but if I am, I have no idea what to attempt to bait it with. Good luck on your hunt though.


evil is different to many people and it is rare for people to beleive it of them selves. judgement of evil must be left up to the individual, if not one can not truly say they have a morality. its not about whether it would hurt me or not, but if it desires to harm anything out of malice then i must take action. if one allows evil deeds to happen then they might as well be saying they are ok with it. saying for certain that something would be caught by me is once again an assumption you have made. oh and as for learning reasons behind something's actions, i find that usualy irrelavant. if one is harming others at random then that reason is void to me.
oh and dont think that im trying to be good, i am nuetral

as for folk lore you are right, however it is not a certainty. and once again if you havent read about it, yokai are not always animals. nothing is rediculous unless it completely defies logic, no monsters in cryptozoology are attributed to this, and even if they are there is a magic based reason

If you would pass judgement on another, and intervene in such a means by imprisoning them, your actions would themselves be acting out of malice toward another. This would by your definition make you evil. It would also make any actions against you out of malice no longer just out of malice, but to protect the innocent that you took it upon yourself to imprison. That would not make you good, or neutral, closer to your own mistaken idea of an evil being. However, in both actions, the intent to do harm to one another is obviously there, them through whatever means they use, and you by imprisoning them. You however prove the type through such actions I would want absolutely nothing to do with. I cannot, under any condition condone of such actions, or offer any assistance in accomplishing such actions.


The only other options are plants, and single celled organisms, as even humans qualify as animals. I assumed you were not speaking of plants, or single celled organisms, so I used the term animal. It's not impossible, just something I don't know anything about, and thus can't help with. It does however not seem like something that would be very likely to be real.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:25 pm


Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01
Lichess
neko-mata-01

um why not, its called prison. we do it all the time. not all spirits are good

they are essentially demons. the difference is that they dont originate or reside in hell (excluding oni) like western demons, nor are they inherintly evil. they here on earth apparently. why would i not just grab one? because that would be kinda rude and unessesary. also although i have no problem with it you should realize that many were possibly human at some point like
yuki-onna. althought they can be bad such as some ghosts called yurei (think aobut the move the grudge or the ring) they can be more innocent like tanuki
imprisoning people against their will is kinda a crime. You're not any form of legal authority, and have no reason to imprison anything.

That makes no sense... At all. Never heard of whatever you are speaking of so... can't help you. Doesn't sound like anything real though.

um then who would be a legal authority? if for some reason a spirit was acting evil i would imprison or aprihend it regardless

and look it up. its part of japanese folklore and religion essentialy


If anything is that evil, first it would not waste it's time with anything around you. You aren't anything all that special, regardless of what you may think. Doing so makes you in fact the evil one, for trying to detain what you likely hold the misconception of being evil. You're likely trying to detain a perfectly "good" individual, and that is just asking for trouble. However, the misconception that anything can be innately evil is just that. The duality mentality of things being good, and evil by nature is very mistaken. It's a misconception of a rather underdeveloped mind, that has been corrupted by the very easy patterns of thought to fall into.
If something really was evil, you wouldn't really be in any position to do anything. Not because it would be hostile toward you, but because it would not. It would be out burning the entire human population to ashes, just because they were annoying little animals. Nothing like this even exists, if it did, certainly would not be caught by you, even if you tried. It is always a more wise action to attempt to learn the reasons behind others actions, and if you disagree, simply do not involve yourself. But do remember that evil is not something you are in a place to judge, and I will never under any condition condone such actions, or associate myself with anyone who does.

A lot of things in folk lore are not real. I'm not saying it was never spoken of, just does not sound like an actual animal. Too much in fact sounds utterly ridiculous. I could be wrong, but if I am, I have no idea what to attempt to bait it with. Good luck on your hunt though.


evil is different to many people and it is rare for people to beleive it of them selves. judgement of evil must be left up to the individual, if not one can not truly say they have a morality. its not about whether it would hurt me or not, but if it desires to harm anything out of malice then i must take action. if one allows evil deeds to happen then they might as well be saying they are ok with it. saying for certain that something would be caught by me is once again an assumption you have made. oh and as for learning reasons behind something's actions, i find that usualy irrelavant. if one is harming others at random then that reason is void to me.
oh and dont think that im trying to be good, i am nuetral

as for folk lore you are right, however it is not a certainty. and once again if you havent read about it, yokai are not always animals. nothing is rediculous unless it completely defies logic, no monsters in cryptozoology are attributed to this, and even if they are there is a magic based reason

If you would pass judgement on another, and intervene in such a means by imprisoning them, your actions would themselves be acting out of malice toward another. This would by your definition make you evil. It would also make any actions against you out of malice no longer just out of malice, but to protect the innocent that you took it upon yourself to imprison. That would not make you good, or neutral, closer to your own mistaken idea of an evil being. However, in both actions, the intent to do harm to one another is obviously there, them through whatever means they use, and you by imprisoning them. You however prove the type through such actions I would want absolutely nothing to do with. I cannot, under any condition condone of such actions, or offer any assistance in accomplishing such actions.


The only other options are plants, and single celled organisms, as even humans qualify as animals. I assumed you were not speaking of plants, or single celled organisms, so I used the term animal. It's not impossible, just something I don't know anything about, and thus can't help with. It does however not seem like something that would be very likely to be real.


malice is to hate. i hate no evil beings.
if i had malice towarads things i can do much worse
belive what you must. i really dont care

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