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Insatiable Design

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:33 pm


SchizoSpazz

1. faith in general is a touchy subject. people have fought for these issues (including atheist) for thousands of years, and so we try to explain it all without getting anything and fighting anyone about anything supernatural. and saying 'god did it' makes you sound stupid and lazy. and the atheists who want proof are going to be like 'show me' even trying to prove/disprove god(s) in general hasn't yielded any results, and there's probably not enough technology we can come up with to take them out of hiding, if that's the case. einstein started out very skeptical and came out a believer after explaining the theory of relativity

2. because if we're as smart as we think we are, why do we have an origin of species, but not have an origin of gravity, relativity, entropy, and why these laws apply to earth? and how, even with evolution, did any complex living organisms come to live and thrive on one planet that we're aware of?


You completely lost me here. I'm scientific and a theist, but I don't believe that the universe was created by any being or group of beings. And let me ask you something, if conditions for life on any given planet exist, can you give me any sound reason why life would NOT develop?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:15 pm


In my opinion if any god exists then why iz there war? why isn't the world a peaceful utopia?

Ryura_Kayano

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:01 am


Ryura_Kayano
In my opinion if any god exists then why iz there war? why isn't the world a peaceful utopia?

Well, if the one God do exist, then that one is either:
* Not as omnipotent as said to be.
* Not good!
* Looking towards a "greater good", where the end justifies the means.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:03 pm


I haven't read the entire thread, so sorry if this has been repeated already.

Carebear on Cocaine
How in the world am I supposed to worship god, when he could possibly not exist. I mean, I could understand if it was scientificly proven that he did exist.

I take it you're referring to Pascal's Wager in this instance. Yeah, it's been pretty much thwarted.

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But what if I die and there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, or anything...where we are just thrown in a big white box.

Then no one has anything to worry about because there's nothing in The Great Beyond.

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And how could someone possibly be 3 "people". Because he is supposedly the "father son and holy spirit"


Martin Luther attacks the concept of the Trinity in his 95 Treatises if I recall correctly. I know he tackles it somewhere.

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I have no religion..

*hands you a cookie*
Nothing wrong with that in my book smile

A1Saucy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:40 pm


Ryura_Kayano
In my opinion if any god exists then why iz there war? why isn't the world a peaceful utopia?


Have you not heard of, say, Mars? Why assume a god would desire the world to be a peaceful utopia?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:01 am


Sanguina Cruenta
Ryura_Kayano
In my opinion if any god exists then why iz there war? why isn't the world a peaceful utopia?


Have you not heard of, say, Mars? Why assume a god would desire the world to be a peaceful utopia?


No & I don't know lolz

Ryura_Kayano

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Wizard in the Forest

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:33 pm


I don't really care if a person has no faith, no god, whatever. What really matters to me if a person is strong-minded which is merely a matter of my opinion. I find a person who is wise, courageous, humane, just, disciplined, and optimistic to be strong-minded and to lack these qualities makes a person weak whether they believe in a god or not.

If a person is a lover of knowledge, they have a good perspective, are creative, and open minded they are strong. Whether they believe it or not. If they can overcome adversity and persevere in the face of challenges, then they are strong. If a person can have a good sense of humor and work to a brighter future, then they're strong. It's not a god existing or not existing that makes peace, war, or any such obvious conflicts in our lives. It's our own weakness in the face of stupidity, greed and hatred.

So as people we should man up and do what is right and not argue about metaphysical constructs that have value only to some people.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:31 pm


Carebear on Cocaine
How in the world am I supposed to worship god, when he could possibly not exist. I mean, I could understand if it was scientificly proven that he did exist. But what if I die and there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, or anything...where we are just thrown in a big white box. And how could someone possibly be 3 "people". Because he is supposedly the "father son and holy spirit"

I have no religion..

seeing as how i cam in late, i'm probably just repeating some info. It is in Faith, and that is solely what the Christian faith depends on. I do firmly believe that there is a heaven, hell, purgatory, and paradise, and that on the end of days we will be judged and told whether we're going to heaven or hell.
To explain the part about one person being three people; The one we call "The father", is the creator. He is the beginning and will be the end. He created all and will end all hence why we call him "The Father". "The Son"(aka Jesus Christ in Christianity), is the agent from Heaven who is destined to show the way for humanity. He was sent as a sacrifice after teaching those lost by the corruption of the Pharisee's of the church. He is who is to put mankind back on the right path and his next decendence is the representation of the "End of Days"
The "Holy Spirit"(or Holy Ghoste) is the blessing given to the Apostles from Jesus Christ.

Unfortunately, there are some things that science can't explain such as a super being however there are instances of an after life, angels and demons, and even proof of a Higher power. Most people who have experienced paranormal situations, can attest to there being a form of after life, but the type of ghost you become after you die depends on a whole different scale of factors.
But that's just what i believe.

Orgasmic Shadow


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:08 pm


Ryura_Kayano
In my opinion if any god exists then why iz there war? why isn't the world a peaceful utopia?
It's because God gave us free will, and in our nature we fight.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:26 pm


I'm entering late, and I admit I have not read all the posts in this topic. Please forgive me.

Orgasmic Shadow
Ryura_Kayano
In my opinion if any god exists then why iz there war? why isn't the world a peaceful utopia?
It's because God gave us free will, and in our nature we fight.


I think of it more as being the fact that God is all-knowing. We are not. He created a world that is perfect, but as His children, we cannot comprehend it. The only alternative to perfection is imperfection, so that is what we see, and we are thereby limited.

Yeah, that sounds like the whole world we see is an illusion. Well, have you ever tried really understanding the concept of immortality? I mean, like the true, core concept. You can't, right? There has to be some limitation. Some beginning, some end, or some kind of interruption. Well, because we can't comprehend the true nature of the Kingdom of Heaven, we do not perceive it, even though it is here, within us all. We see faults, interruptions, beginnings, and endings. That doesn't mean they exist.

Hey. People were dead certain the world was flat 12 times longer than they thought the world was round. Did that mean the world was flat? Of course not! They did not understand the concept of the world. And in the same way, we do not understand the concept of God and His true, good work. We perceived a fault, a serpent, an apple of Eden, and like children who have convinced themselves that darkness can hurt them, we have terrified ourselves into believing there is such a thing as evil. God didn't create it, did He?

>.>

I'm putting this in my topic. I'm pretty proud of that XD

Zenith Heaven


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:06 pm


There is no way to prove the existance of God or that he is 3 persons in one God ( The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), but only in faith.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:14 am


Apparently a snake talked to some guy and some invisible man that lives in the sky made a human from dirt and then apparently this invisible God knocked up Mary without even touching her so she gives birth to Jesus who is also God but also can transform into this invisible spirit? It's all a bunch of crap to me.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:09 am


I'm a Catholic and believe in Christ and God, and the 3 persons in one God, but I do sometimes wonder if there is no reincarnation, or afterlife, I dont think its moraly wrong because curiosity is the first step to being Human, but the 3 persons in one God no one knows if it is real, but you have to have faith to believe in the 3 persons, for humans it is not possible, but Jesus was 100% human (so he could cry, feel pain, and other humanly things) but he is also 100% divine (that is how he did many miricles and what not (curing the cripple, blind, lame, and sick)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:00 am



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:06 am


Robotic Chewie2590

A mix of false dichotomy and Pascal's wager. Yawn.
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