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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:44 am
Dark fairy tales seem to be a trend, especially Alice in Wonderland and Little Red Ridding Hood. I have to admit, I'm a little tired of people doing it over and over again.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:09 pm
Zizzykitty Are you one of those people that watches a 3D movie for the cheesy scenes where they obviously have something coming out of the screen towards you just to show the 3D-ness, Orligirl? I think her point was all they did for the 3D version was add a few things that pop out. That's it. The 3D effects were nothing special. Wyvern683 Dark fairy tales seem to be a trend, especially Alice in Wonderland and Little Red Ridding Hood. I have to admit, I'm a little tired of people doing it over and over again. Indeed.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:36 pm
Zizzykitty Are you one of those people that watches a 3D movie for the cheesy scenes where they obviously have something coming out of the screen towards you just to show the 3D-ness, Orligirl? Because frankly, I find those scenes annoying. No, I am not one of those fans. I hate 3d period. It hurts my eyes. The reason I said it wasn't worth it in 3d is because its not like Tim Burton said you had to have the full experience in 3d unlike what James Cameron did where in order to get the full effect of this world he created, you had to have it in 3d to make it feel more real. Saw Alice in Wonderland in Imax 3d and had a headache for three plus hours and when I saw Avatar I went to bed with a headache. 3D films are going to murder our children's eyes!!!
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:49 pm
@ Dornkus: *headdesk* Here we go again. rolleyes Honestly, I've never even read the other books/comics/whatever, so it may be good. I dunno.
@Zizzy: First of all, I thought you were someone new or something. I didn't recognize your avi without the TV head. Still, great avi! 3nodding Second, and most important: Wicked. Is. Awesome. Period. The book is, what I've been told of the theater performance is that it's rather... more silly and whimsical. I even read a few chapters out of Son of the Witch, the sequel, but it still doesn't compare to that book. None of Gregory Maguire's books has gotten me so involved like that one... *rechecks* yeah that's the author's name. Just misspelled it the first time. I think what drew me in the most was the fact that there's not really much magic involved. Most of the book is about the Animals like the cowardly Lion. I'll won't speak much about it. xp And the witch isn't as Wicked as they say. And I love her real name: Elphaba. heart Ahem, had a bit of a fangirl moment there. Scuse me. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:54 pm
Zizzykitty Ew, that sounds like it'd piss me off as well. But that does seem to be more related to a memory than an actual raging at the product. Though I still think the product would annoy me. You can check out their product line and see for yourself. To be fair, that's not all they do, but it annoys the crap out of me. Black_Angel_Flowne @ Dornkus: *headdesk* Here we go again. rolleyes Honestly, I've never even read the other books/comics/whatever, so it may be good. I dunno. At least they're keeping close to the source. Remember when Little Red Riding Hood hacked apart a pack of wolves with an axe?  "Try to eat my granny now, bitches!" (It's concept art for the same game.) And I just remembered another oh so creative game: Fairytale Fights. I swear, that game looked bad right off the bat. Of course, they did go with "cute but violent" instead of dark, but that's another annoying cliche. Also, I saw this series in a comic store once. Specifically the Alice in Wonderland spin-off. Man, I can't believe how many of these things are out there. Are people trying to be trendy or something? To be fair, I guess some of the tales were originally more dark than we're used to, but not to this extent. I'm going to go crazy if I keep track of all these things.
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:03 am
Honestly, the cover for that Red Riding Hood *the one that popped up with the wiki link, not Slayer Red*... Looks like one of those naughty comics to me. And I don't mean gore. rofl
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:43 pm
Orligirl:On the 3D thing, I see what you mean. I thought the subtle touches of 3D were much more interesting than a flat screen but that's just me. And I don't think 3D was required to see Avatar, I can get behind IMAX being a necessity but not 3D. That sucks about your headaches though. I can see how 3D would make your eyes hurt.
Black: Haha, thanks. I finally got an item I'd been wanting for a while so I wanted to use it. C: I guess I'll really have to read the book now but I still want to see the play. *likes the theatre* I'll definitely have to check it out. And it's alright, we all have our moments. :>
Dornkus: Yeek Not just creepy but the girls are all over sexed, of course. Two of what seems to be the most common cliches stuck together. I think that speaks enough for the company for me to be displeased with them.
I will admit, that I really like that painting. The style of it and the action. But I would not have seen Red Riding Hood if you hadn't said it. I must have been reading the wrong books as a kid if I missed this key scene! Or maybe I was reading a completely different story, I only remember one wolf. Curious. The cute but violent cliche is annoying, I'd almost rather have dark than cute but violent. There's a ton of them, I tend not to pay attention to them so I don't see as many.
Just give up now. We'd rather you don't go crazy.
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:30 pm
I don't remember her battling a pack of wolves either. I don't remember her battling anything actually. I remember her getting eaten. and then the lumberjack opens up the wolf's stomach.
Everything gorey has something sexual in it. Guess it brings people into it, I guess. meh. Not really a big deal. As for the cute/violent vs. dark/violent, dark is definitely better, unless it's supposed to be a dark, gorey comedy. Then cute's probably better off in it. I doubt you'll go crazy. Probably just start having weird delusions and rambling fits. xp
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:32 am
Haha, silly McGee. Little Red Riding Hood never fought wolves. Also, this randomly reminded me of the Red Riding Hood figure in one of the links Dornkus posted. It doesn't bother me so much that she's oversexed and violent, though I will still say that it's an overdone cliche, but it really bothers me that it looks like the wolf is giving birth to the grandmother for some reason. I think it just freaks me out a little.
I wonder why gore and sex seem to always be stuck together. Something I may have to look up. I actually find dark/violent more amusing in comedy because when they go cute/violent in comedies it always seems like they're trying too hard to make it funny. I also tend to enjoy a darker humor so dark comedies appeal to me more, so it may just be me.
That still doesn't sound good though.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:02 pm
Maybe it deals with the fact that if you find something really s- ... ...Nevermind xp Scrap that. redface blaugh
Maybe it's to draw your attention to them and not the big guy with the chainsaw behind them or something... at least that sounds better than what I was gonna say xp rofl xp
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:19 pm
Zizzykitty Or maybe I was reading a completely different story, I only remember one wolf. Black_Angel_Flowne I don't remember her battling a pack of wolves either. I don't remember her battling anything actually. I remember her getting eaten. and then the lumberjack opens up the wolf's stomach. Pssh. You two have obviously been reading the wrong story. The real Little Red Riding Hood ran around killing wolves while wearing a corset. One out of every 6849 people agree on it. Zizzykitty The cute but violent cliche is annoying, I'd almost rather have dark than cute but violent. Someone in an article about Fairytale Fights put it well: "Cute and Violent are like cupcakes and hot sauce (respectively, of course). Both are good, but when they are put together, it just leaves a bad flavor in my mouth." Zizzykitty It doesn't bother me so much that she's oversexed and violent, though I will still say that it's an overdone cliche, but it really bothers me that it looks like the wolf is giving birth to the grandmother for some reason. I think the designer was too busy thinking it would be "so totally awesome" to have the wolf disemboweled (after he had consumed the grandmother), that he or she (probably he) didn't notice the area the guts were coming out of looked kind of wrong. Zizzykitty I wonder why gore and sex seem to always be stuck together. There are a few possibilities: 1. Guys are usually the ones who like gore. Guys also like sex. 2. It adds to the "maturity" factor. 3. The people in charge are afraid no one will want their product, so they throw in sex appeal to try to reach more people.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:30 am
Dornkus There are a few possibilities: 1. Guys are usually the ones who like gore. Guys also like sex. 2. It adds to the "maturity" factor. 3. The people in charge are afraid no one will want their product, so they throw in sex appeal to try to reach more people. That's unfair. Speaking as a female who likes bouth gore and sex I feel these games/movies are often lacking hot male eye candy. It's ussualy a half naked chick. And the few times they do the supposed "Hot" male eye-candy is one of them pretty boys. Bleh. And they ussualy get dead pretty soon More halfnaked rugged guys in my gore! ... Although on the other hand I don't really want my gore and sex too mix. That just gets me thinking about that grand finale in the Silent Hill movie and then it's all "Barbwire in bad places!!" and that just does not lead too sexy thoughts.
Aaaaaanyway.
Totaly agree with you all on the whole cute/scary mix. It's getting freaking old.
If you like the cute/scary mix, just go watch the old My Little Pony shows or The Teletubies. Because those are freaking terrafying.
Also, why is the Gretel figure all hot and not Hansel? If you're gonna make her a hot grown up porn star Hansel should totaly get to strut his stuff too.
I also agree with Zizzys point that dark humour in horror really works better then trying to force it with cute. Those attempts ussualy fail badly.
Although I might be mostly on that opinion due to the fact that most of the attempts I've seen of that are when a cute little girl is killing things while saying "random" things...ussualy something too do with tacos or cheese. And I've never really gotten what's so funny about that.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:36 am
Dornkus "Cute and Violent are like cupcakes and hot sauce (respectively, of course). Both are good, but when they are put together, it just leaves a bad flavor in my mouth." I think this is my new favorite quote. Dornkus Zizzykitty It doesn't bother me so much that she's oversexed and violent, though I will still say that it's an overdone cliche, but it really bothers me that it looks like the wolf is giving birth to the grandmother for some reason. I think the designer was too busy thinking it would be "so totally awesome" to have the wolf disemboweled (after he had consumed the grandmother), that he or she (probably he) didn't notice the area the guts were coming out of looked kind of wrong. God, I hope so and that it wasn't some strange symbolism he was trying to get in there. Though they don't seem like the "symbol" type of people. It still freaks me out a bit. klikk:You should propose a movie idea to a really femenist(fem-nazi) director "Instead of hot chicks running around, demeaning themselves, make the men do it!" She'll love it. I'm not exactly a fan or gore so my opinion is obviously biased. But let me say that guro frightens me. I can't see how people get off to it at all. Sex and gore do not mix in my book. I was wondering about the Hansel and Gretel figurines as well but I was too distracted by the wolf giving birth to Granny that I forgot to say anything. I found it strange how Gretel looks a good ten years older than Hansel. They were about the same age, right? (Or maybe I was reading the wrong stories again. I seem to be having that problem a lot if we're going off of what's been posted in this thread.) I will admit I found cute horror comedy funny in middle school. (Like the kind if thing you described.) But now I just don't see why it was ever funny. They try waaaaaay too hard.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:53 am
Oh dear god no. D: Fem-nazis scare me to pieces. They always give me the evil eye. And lecture me. Might have something too due with the fact that I oocasionaly order women too stop acting like they can actualy do man-things and just return to the kitchen.
And yes. Guro, very ******** up.
I stay the hell away from it after I on a very bad judgement call watched a guro-porn video a friend send me as a joke. ONCE SEEN IT CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!! There were things....things in very bad places :'C So já. Sex+Gore= Oh dear god why?!?!?! D':
Hansel and Gretel are supposed to be roughly the same age. Maybe we're bouth reading the wrong stuff.
I have to admit though that I'm kinda finding that "Dark red riding hood" does not even come close too a version I read in some book on the Origins of fairytails I found once. That one had some disturbing things like the wolf really wanting Riding Hood to get all naked. Creeepy
Also On a complete off of topic note. I just realised I have a bleeding cut on my hand roughly the lenght of my thumb.
I think I may have cut myself on my can opener but I'm not sure. I have when that happens.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:02 am
klikkhaus That's unfair. Speaking as a female who likes bouth gore and sex I feel these games/movies are often lacking hot male eye candy. It's ussualy a half naked chick. And the few times they do the supposed "Hot" male eye-candy is one of them pretty boys. Bleh. And they ussualy get dead pretty soon More halfnaked rugged guys in my gore! Your stereotypical male seems to love gore and sex more than your stereotypical female does. Usually eye candy for women is thrown into movies that are labeled as "chick flicks," and those typically don't have any gore. "Hot man action" (I guess you can call it that) typically diminishes the allure of a movie to heterosexual males. Guy parts are usually added for shock value in comedies directed to males. The way I see it is the movie industry tries to cater to the heterosexual male demographic. Blame society and "The Man" for that one, I suppose. It probably also comes down to this: Guy in charge: "Man. Our movie actually sounds like it's going to suck. Stereotypical Employee: "Yeah. No one is going to want to see this." *Just then, Greg (the guy who brings the doughnuts) walks in with some maple bars and apple fritters* Guy in charge: "You there! Bob!" Greg: "It's Greg." Guy in charge: "Whatever, Bob. You're an average schmuck! How do we get people see a movie?" Greg: "Shouldn't you know how to do that?" Guy in charge: "I don't pay myself to think! Just give me some advice!" Greg: "Uh. Add boobies to it?" Guy in charge: "BRILLIANT! You get a promotion! You are now the guy who brings coffee!" Stereotypical Employee: "What about things to lure ladies to it?" Greg: "Uh. I dunno. How about some young, muscular, attractive men? You could have them take off their shirts or something." Guy in charge: "Ew! What kind of man do you take me for?!? You're fired, Bob!" klikkhaus Also, why is the Gretel figure all hot and not Hansel? If you're gonna make her a hot grown up porn star Hansel should totaly get to strut his stuff too. Probably for reasons similar to the ones I mentioned above. In addition, the designer was probably a guy. Zizzykitty I'm not exactly a fan or gore so my opinion is obviously biased. But let me say that guro frightens me. I can't see how people get off to it at all. Sex and gore do not mix in my book. I really don't know how they do, either. People are into some messed up things. In my opinion, that is. klikkhaus I have to admit though that I'm kinda finding that "Dark red riding hood" does not even come close too a version I read in some book on the Origins of fairytails I found once. That one had some disturbing things like the wolf really wanting Riding Hood to get all naked. Creeepy There are a few interpretations of Little Red Riding Hood that are sexual in nature. That one was probably more blatant than the others. I just remembered something. Going back to Fairytale Fights and "sex sells": this is one of their ads. Despite what it may say, it's overall suitable for minors, but for those of you who don't know, all of the "actors" in this commercial are porn stars (which is why it's flagged).
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