many muslims are also Semitic. The idea that its only Jews is an artificial abstraction akin to saying only men can be homosexuals.
As far as the evil jew theory, it boils down to any other evil race theory. You have a small group of families of a specific race with notorious plans and power acting in concert to achieve multi-generational prosperity for themselves and evil for others.
In this case it happens to be more concentrated because the base race involved is small in population and the traits and reasons for the evil are interlinked to the racial profiling. Since ALL jews were only allowed to be tax collectors, and more or less money lenders during many centuries of European history, they have had a long history of training as if they were "guilds" in the mathematics and legal aspects of commerce, and learned all the trade routes, all the schemes, and made all the contacts and have the inside spies in all the courts of the land. Naturally it means they have centuries of squirling away resources and centuries of despising their oppressors which amounts to the majority of the rest of Europe, particularly the Catholics who at one point sent the inquisition after them when usury was constituted as a capital sin.
Naturally they did all in their power to survive and profit, which given the circumstances, led to lots and lots of criminalistic and deceitful tendencies, not unlike Robin Hood and his merry men, but from the other side. Protected by the kings and noblemen who wanted their taxes collected, the commoners of Europe started associating the jews with the nobility, and then the murky reality sets in.
Since the tax collectors were jews, and the nobles wanted their money, they would sometimes assume the Jews were always successful in collecting the money, but this was not always the case. To prevent themselves from dying of poverty based starvation, the Jews had to hide money from the Nobility, at the same time the Nobility was expecting full taxes paid, which not being available, meant the Jews would have to lie on the books or get executed. The Jews also had to find ways of getting even more money out of the people they could get to pay up, which meant the taxes on those who paid could be exceedingly unfair, to compensate for those who failed to comply. The net result is jews would often resort to Sheriff of Nottingham tactics. These tactics are vaguely similar to mafia style bill collectors.
Even if that is true that was last done centuries ago. Also jews where bankers because no Christian would be. Other Jews where also renouned for being Doctors. Now a days however Jews can be anything they want to be old arguments are invalid.
Also not all Jews are rich. The thing is Judism tends to put a huge emphasis on education and learning, even questioning our own religion. This tends to lead Jews to take on more high level jobs that require more education. So overall we have a higher proportion that are in law, layers, doctors, Etc. this is where the "jews are all rich" Idea comes from. Also in times of economic recetion doctors and people in law tend to fare a bit better then lots of other jobs. Also there is the sad fact that if one of us DOES happen to do bad things or be corrupt. It tends to make people think ALL of us are like that. where as if someone who is christian or non religious does something bad it is taken as just that "One person did somthing bad"
Jew= Rich tends to function in peoples minds the same way Muslim=terrorist does
People are afraid of difference, and take the actions and behaviors of a few, and believe that of the many.
Michael Noire
So yes, the jews in order to preserve themselves, rather than taking a moral high ground or fighting to the death or fleeing, instead chose the easier path of becoming corrupt super banker tax collectors from hell.
Uh... most of history has been us fleeing or fighting to the death.
Jews where constantly expelled from countrys, and would constantly flee. As for being super corrupt did you know Spain's whole economy fell apart after they expelled the Jews? Looks like Jews where HELPING the econemy not hindering it. The whole "corrupt banker" theory came from the fact that people got resentful when bankers did what bankers do, collect money back. Instead of saying. "Oh I should never have taken out a loan I could not pay off" it was much easier to say "oh that Jew was corrupt hes the bad guy" people have a tendency to want a scape goat and that is just what Jews became.
Also you should probably really re-lookup your history. You do realize the merchant of Venice was fiction right?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:22 pm
YahuShalum
Konako_Akari
YahuShalum
Konako_Akari
Obviously you have no clue what judism is. The Talmud says that it is any humans duty to save another human life. Unlike other religions judism says that anyone can be a good person. so in otherwords We don't think anyone who disagrees with us is going to hell.
Are you Jewish?
Yes so I think i'd understand my religion a bit better then you
Better then me? I study torah honey. So you still have your sin sacrifices?
See, that's where most people go wrong. There is a lot more to Judism then just the Torah. Or mabye you didnt even do that, mabye you just read "the old testement"
Tell me, have you studied the entire Tanakh? Have you studied the prophets or the writings? what about the Talmud? Also when studying the Torah did you take it literally? It is not meant to be taken that way you know. Have you ever talked with a rabbi? How about attended some of our festivals? Have you actually lived as a Jew? or just read about things in a book?
Actualy no, Our Idea of sin is very diferant then Christianity's. The actual Hebrew word more closly translates to "Missing the mark." Also we have not sacrificed animals since the destruction of the 2nd temple by the ancient romans
Obviously you have no clue what judism is. The Talmud says that it is any humans duty to save another human life. Unlike other religions judism says that anyone can be a good person. so in otherwords We don't think anyone who disagrees with us is going to hell.
Are you Jewish?
Yes so I think i'd understand my religion a bit better then you
Better then me? I study torah honey. So you still have your sin sacrifices?
See, that's where most people go wrong. There is a lot more to Judism then just the Torah. Or mabye you didnt even do that, mabye you just read "the old testement"
Tell me, have you studied the entire Tanakh? Have you studied the prophets or the writings? what about the Talmud? Also when studying the Torah did you take it literally? It is not meant to be taken that way you know. Have you ever talked with a rabbi? How about attended some of our festivals? Have you actually lived as a Jew? or just read about things in a book?
Actualy no, Our Idea of sin is very diferant then Christianity's. The actual Hebrew word more closly translates to "Missing the mark." Also we have not sacrificed animals since the destruction of the 2nd temple by the ancient romans
Sin is a term from archery which means missing the mark. And you sound more like the Yahudim that call themselves Yahudim but are not. So are you going to sacrifice animals when the third temple is built? Which it is close to finished. So the torah is not to be taken literally? So Moses and His miracles didn't happen? Eli'Yahu didn't spar with the prophets of Ba'al?(Nor ascended into the heavens?) Noah didn't have his Ark? Tell me; what part isn't supposed to be taken literally? And how do you connect with YHUH if your sin is still upon you? You have no sacrifice to cleanse your imperfection away, you have no priesthood. (Or are there actually Levites in your temples still?) Who speaks to YHUH for you?(Do you even hold His name sacred or have you brought it to waste replacing it with vain titles) Who enters the Holy of Holy makes the sin sacrifice then speaks for you? Or did you guys change the law to better suit your selves? Almost sounds like the jews of today are actually the Abomination of Desolation Daniel the prophet spoke of. You changed the laws and times.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:12 pm
Konako_Akari
Michael Noire
many muslims are also Semitic. The idea that its only Jews is an artificial abstraction akin to saying only men can be homosexuals.
As far as the evil jew theory, it boils down to any other evil race theory. You have a small group of families of a specific race with notorious plans and power acting in concert to achieve multi-generational prosperity for themselves and evil for others.
In this case it happens to be more concentrated because the base race involved is small in population and the traits and reasons for the evil are interlinked to the racial profiling. Since ALL jews were only allowed to be tax collectors, and more or less money lenders during many centuries of European history, they have had a long history of training as if they were "guilds" in the mathematics and legal aspects of commerce, and learned all the trade routes, all the schemes, and made all the contacts and have the inside spies in all the courts of the land. Naturally it means they have centuries of squirling away resources and centuries of despising their oppressors which amounts to the majority of the rest of Europe, particularly the Catholics who at one point sent the inquisition after them when usury was constituted as a capital sin.
Naturally they did all in their power to survive and profit, which given the circumstances, led to lots and lots of criminalistic and deceitful tendencies, not unlike Robin Hood and his merry men, but from the other side. Protected by the kings and noblemen who wanted their taxes collected, the commoners of Europe started associating the jews with the nobility, and then the murky reality sets in.
Since the tax collectors were jews, and the nobles wanted their money, they would sometimes assume the Jews were always successful in collecting the money, but this was not always the case. To prevent themselves from dying of poverty based starvation, the Jews had to hide money from the Nobility, at the same time the Nobility was expecting full taxes paid, which not being available, meant the Jews would have to lie on the books or get executed. The Jews also had to find ways of getting even more money out of the people they could get to pay up, which meant the taxes on those who paid could be exceedingly unfair, to compensate for those who failed to comply. The net result is jews would often resort to Sheriff of Nottingham tactics. These tactics are vaguely similar to mafia style bill collectors.
Even if that is true that was last done centuries ago. Also jews where bankers because no Christian would be. Other Jews where also renouned for being Doctors. Now a days however Jews can be anything they want to be old arguments are invalid.
Also not all Jews are rich. The thing is Judism tends to put a huge emphasis on education and learning, even questioning our own religion. This tends to lead Jews to take on more high level jobs that require more education. So overall we have a higher proportion that are in law, layers, doctors, Etc. this is where the "jews are all rich" Idea comes from. Also in times of economic recetion doctors and people in law tend to fare a bit better then lots of other jobs. Also there is the sad fact that if one of us DOES happen to do bad things or be corrupt. It tends to make people think ALL of us are like that. where as if someone who is christian or non religious does something bad it is taken as just that "One person did somthing bad"
Jew= Rich tends to function in peoples minds the same way Muslim=terrorist does
People are afraid of difference, and take the actions and behaviors of a few, and believe that of the many.
Michael Noire
So yes, the jews in order to preserve themselves, rather than taking a moral high ground or fighting to the death or fleeing, instead chose the easier path of becoming corrupt super banker tax collectors from hell.
Uh... most of history has been us fleeing or fighting to the death.
Jews where constantly expelled from countrys, and would constantly flee. As for being super corrupt did you know Spain's whole economy fell apart after they expelled the Jews? Looks like Jews where HELPING the econemy not hindering it. The whole "corrupt banker" theory came from the fact that people got resentful when bankers did what bankers do, collect money back. Instead of saying. "Oh I should never have taken out a loan I could not pay off" it was much easier to say "oh that Jew was corrupt hes the bad guy" people have a tendency to want a scape goat and that is just what Jews became.
Also you should probably really re-lookup your history. You do realize the merchant of Venice was fiction right?
what's a merchant of Venice? This is material from my history of "Religion and Eugenics" class.
let's be blunt, since this account is likely to be banned soon.
Not all jews are evil, not all jews are rich. Anyone who thinks i said that needs a bullet in the head.
Next.
some jews are evil. some jews are rich. That's a fact. it's also a fact that these jews im talking about are part of a dynasty going back centuries, to the events I've detailed. Here's how it is, they have tens of trillions as families, and hundreds of trillions collectively. In case you are stupid like most people, that's all of the assets of Earth. They don't care about me and you, they don't even care about Billionaires. They control it all because they own it all. Right now it appears to be a giant game - can they convince the entire world that money is God and since they own the money, they are God?
I think that's part of the goal, but other goals are pretty clear, and not unfamiliar. I think many of them want immortality, but our science is no where near sufficient for such a thing. I think many of them want population reduction, but are afraid if it is done wrong, they will be the ones who die. I think some want robots doing everything, and the rest of the population as slaves, but that's going to wreak of science fiction movies and people will fight it.
So clearly, the one thing they are spending their money most on, is the creation of despair, apathy, and hopelessness, to match up with weak wills, controlled community, and the abolition of the armed educated individual. Thus you have the gradual disintegration of libraries, the increase in written illiteracy, and many other horrible things that fools are quick to believe is only conspiracy or fantasy.
So are you going to sacrifice animals when the third temple is built? Which it is close to finished.
I highly doubt it Judism has changed a great deal since the days of the anciant romans
YahuShalum
So the torah is not to be taken literally? So Moses and His miracles didn't happen? Eli'Yahu didn't spar with the prophets of Ba'al? Noah didn't have his Ark? Tell me; what part isn't supposed to be taken literally?
Mabye they did, maybye they didnt, either way that is just the 1st level there are multiple levels to the torah and only G-d knows them all Its quite possible they might just be metaphorical but they could also be fact.
YahuShalum
And how do you connect with YHUH if your sin is still upon you? You have no sacrifice to cleanse your imperfection away, you have no priesthood. (Or are there actually Levites in your temples still?)
First of all Adonai is the more aproprite title. The YHUH is most likely based on the yud hay vuv hay (the hebrew letters used to represent god's name) We believe that god understands that humans are not perfect. We do not have to be perfect we just try to be the best we can. If we make a mistake we try to make up for it by apologizing the the person, then god, then trying to make up for the mistake and learning from it. Look up Yom Kippur that should awnser the rest of your questions on this matter
YahuShalum
Who speaks to YHUH for you?(Do you even hold His name sacred or have you brought it to waste replacing it with vain titles) Who enters the Holy of Holy makes the sin sacrifice then speaks for you?
Noone does, we each pray to him ourselves or in congregations. Of course we hold his name holly. there is no longer a sin sacrifice. this is why you need to do more then read the Torah. Your version of judism is from thousends of year ago.
YahuShalum
Or did you guys change the law to better suit your selves? Almost sounds like the jews of today are actually the Abomination of Desolation Daniel the prophet spoke of. You changed the laws and times.
Look at it this way, we change to adapt to the times while still staying true to our ideals. Compare it to how this nation has changed from its forming to now. Ways of life that do not change with time and with the needs of their people are doomed to fail. The Torah is called a living document because the interpretation of it changes.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:29 pm
Michael Noire
Konako_Akari
Michael Noire
many muslims are also Semitic. The idea that its only Jews is an artificial abstraction akin to saying only men can be homosexuals.
As far as the evil jew theory, it boils down to any other evil race theory. You have a small group of families of a specific race with notorious plans and power acting in concert to achieve multi-generational prosperity for themselves and evil for others.
In this case it happens to be more concentrated because the base race involved is small in population and the traits and reasons for the evil are interlinked to the racial profiling. Since ALL jews were only allowed to be tax collectors, and more or less money lenders during many centuries of European history, they have had a long history of training as if they were "guilds" in the mathematics and legal aspects of commerce, and learned all the trade routes, all the schemes, and made all the contacts and have the inside spies in all the courts of the land. Naturally it means they have centuries of squirling away resources and centuries of despising their oppressors which amounts to the majority of the rest of Europe, particularly the Catholics who at one point sent the inquisition after them when usury was constituted as a capital sin.
Naturally they did all in their power to survive and profit, which given the circumstances, led to lots and lots of criminalistic and deceitful tendencies, not unlike Robin Hood and his merry men, but from the other side. Protected by the kings and noblemen who wanted their taxes collected, the commoners of Europe started associating the jews with the nobility, and then the murky reality sets in.
Since the tax collectors were jews, and the nobles wanted their money, they would sometimes assume the Jews were always successful in collecting the money, but this was not always the case. To prevent themselves from dying of poverty based starvation, the Jews had to hide money from the Nobility, at the same time the Nobility was expecting full taxes paid, which not being available, meant the Jews would have to lie on the books or get executed. The Jews also had to find ways of getting even more money out of the people they could get to pay up, which meant the taxes on those who paid could be exceedingly unfair, to compensate for those who failed to comply. The net result is jews would often resort to Sheriff of Nottingham tactics. These tactics are vaguely similar to mafia style bill collectors.
Even if that is true that was last done centuries ago. Also jews where bankers because no Christian would be. Other Jews where also renouned for being Doctors. Now a days however Jews can be anything they want to be old arguments are invalid.
Also not all Jews are rich. The thing is Judism tends to put a huge emphasis on education and learning, even questioning our own religion. This tends to lead Jews to take on more high level jobs that require more education. So overall we have a higher proportion that are in law, layers, doctors, Etc. this is where the "jews are all rich" Idea comes from. Also in times of economic recetion doctors and people in law tend to fare a bit better then lots of other jobs. Also there is the sad fact that if one of us DOES happen to do bad things or be corrupt. It tends to make people think ALL of us are like that. where as if someone who is christian or non religious does something bad it is taken as just that "One person did somthing bad"
Jew= Rich tends to function in peoples minds the same way Muslim=terrorist does
People are afraid of difference, and take the actions and behaviors of a few, and believe that of the many.
Michael Noire
So yes, the jews in order to preserve themselves, rather than taking a moral high ground or fighting to the death or fleeing, instead chose the easier path of becoming corrupt super banker tax collectors from hell.
Uh... most of history has been us fleeing or fighting to the death.
Jews where constantly expelled from countrys, and would constantly flee. As for being super corrupt did you know Spain's whole economy fell apart after they expelled the Jews? Looks like Jews where HELPING the econemy not hindering it. The whole "corrupt banker" theory came from the fact that people got resentful when bankers did what bankers do, collect money back. Instead of saying. "Oh I should never have taken out a loan I could not pay off" it was much easier to say "oh that Jew was corrupt hes the bad guy" people have a tendency to want a scape goat and that is just what Jews became.
Also you should probably really re-lookup your history. You do realize the merchant of Venice was fiction right?
what's a merchant of Venice? This is material from my history of "Religion and Eugenics" class.
let's be blunt, since this account is likely to be banned soon.
Not all jews are evil, not all jews are rich. Anyone who thinks i said that needs a bullet in the head.
Next.
some jews are evil. some jews are rich. That's a fact. it's also a fact that these jews im talking about are part of a dynasty going back centuries, to the events I've detailed. Here's how it is, they have tens of trillions as families, and hundreds of trillions collectively. In case you are stupid like most people, that's all of the assets of Earth. They don't care about me and you, they don't even care about Billionaires. They control it all because they own it all. Right now it appears to be a giant game - can they convince the entire world that money is God and since they own the money, they are God?
I think that's part of the goal, but other goals are pretty clear, and not unfamiliar. I think many of them want immortality, but our science is no where near sufficient for such a thing. I think many of them want population reduction, but are afraid if it is done wrong, they will be the ones who die. I think some want robots doing everything, and the rest of the population as slaves, but that's going to wreak of science fiction movies and people will fight it.
So clearly, the one thing they are spending their money most on, is the creation of despair, apathy, and hopelessness, to match up with weak wills, controlled community, and the abolition of the armed educated individual. Thus you have the gradual disintegration of libraries, the increase in written illiteracy, and many other horrible things that fools are quick to believe is only conspiracy or fantasy.
I'd like to see evidence of this evil dynasty of jews who control the world.
The only reason to hate Israel is because one hates Jews. I am sorry. I don't agree with everything Israel does, but if you criticize Israel but conveniently turn a blind eye to the horrible atrocities that the Islamic world commits, then you are an antisemitist.
And if you criticize Islam but turn a blind eye to the horrible atrocities committed by the Israeli's? What does that make you?
You mean the horrible atrocities like Democracy, free healthcare, women's rights and enlightened western ideologies?
*headdesk* Okay, there's clearly no point in continuing this....
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:53 pm
Konako_Akari
Michael Noire
Konako_Akari
Michael Noire
many muslims are also Semitic. The idea that its only Jews is an artificial abstraction akin to saying only men can be homosexuals.
As far as the evil jew theory, it boils down to any other evil race theory. You have a small group of families of a specific race with notorious plans and power acting in concert to achieve multi-generational prosperity for themselves and evil for others.
In this case it happens to be more concentrated because the base race involved is small in population and the traits and reasons for the evil are interlinked to the racial profiling. Since ALL jews were only allowed to be tax collectors, and more or less money lenders during many centuries of European history, they have had a long history of training as if they were "guilds" in the mathematics and legal aspects of commerce, and learned all the trade routes, all the schemes, and made all the contacts and have the inside spies in all the courts of the land. Naturally it means they have centuries of squirling away resources and centuries of despising their oppressors which amounts to the majority of the rest of Europe, particularly the Catholics who at one point sent the inquisition after them when usury was constituted as a capital sin.
Naturally they did all in their power to survive and profit, which given the circumstances, led to lots and lots of criminalistic and deceitful tendencies, not unlike Robin Hood and his merry men, but from the other side. Protected by the kings and noblemen who wanted their taxes collected, the commoners of Europe started associating the jews with the nobility, and then the murky reality sets in.
Since the tax collectors were jews, and the nobles wanted their money, they would sometimes assume the Jews were always successful in collecting the money, but this was not always the case. To prevent themselves from dying of poverty based starvation, the Jews had to hide money from the Nobility, at the same time the Nobility was expecting full taxes paid, which not being available, meant the Jews would have to lie on the books or get executed. The Jews also had to find ways of getting even more money out of the people they could get to pay up, which meant the taxes on those who paid could be exceedingly unfair, to compensate for those who failed to comply. The net result is jews would often resort to Sheriff of Nottingham tactics. These tactics are vaguely similar to mafia style bill collectors.
Even if that is true that was last done centuries ago. Also jews where bankers because no Christian would be. Other Jews where also renouned for being Doctors. Now a days however Jews can be anything they want to be old arguments are invalid.
Also not all Jews are rich. The thing is Judism tends to put a huge emphasis on education and learning, even questioning our own religion. This tends to lead Jews to take on more high level jobs that require more education. So overall we have a higher proportion that are in law, layers, doctors, Etc. this is where the "jews are all rich" Idea comes from. Also in times of economic recetion doctors and people in law tend to fare a bit better then lots of other jobs. Also there is the sad fact that if one of us DOES happen to do bad things or be corrupt. It tends to make people think ALL of us are like that. where as if someone who is christian or non religious does something bad it is taken as just that "One person did somthing bad"
Jew= Rich tends to function in peoples minds the same way Muslim=terrorist does
People are afraid of difference, and take the actions and behaviors of a few, and believe that of the many.
Michael Noire
So yes, the jews in order to preserve themselves, rather than taking a moral high ground or fighting to the death or fleeing, instead chose the easier path of becoming corrupt super banker tax collectors from hell.
Uh... most of history has been us fleeing or fighting to the death.
Jews where constantly expelled from countrys, and would constantly flee. As for being super corrupt did you know Spain's whole economy fell apart after they expelled the Jews? Looks like Jews where HELPING the econemy not hindering it. The whole "corrupt banker" theory came from the fact that people got resentful when bankers did what bankers do, collect money back. Instead of saying. "Oh I should never have taken out a loan I could not pay off" it was much easier to say "oh that Jew was corrupt hes the bad guy" people have a tendency to want a scape goat and that is just what Jews became.
Also you should probably really re-lookup your history. You do realize the merchant of Venice was fiction right?
what's a merchant of Venice? This is material from my history of "Religion and Eugenics" class.
let's be blunt, since this account is likely to be banned soon.
Not all jews are evil, not all jews are rich. Anyone who thinks i said that needs a bullet in the head.
Next.
some jews are evil. some jews are rich. That's a fact. it's also a fact that these jews im talking about are part of a dynasty going back centuries, to the events I've detailed. Here's how it is, they have tens of trillions as families, and hundreds of trillions collectively. In case you are stupid like most people, that's all of the assets of Earth. They don't care about me and you, they don't even care about Billionaires. They control it all because they own it all. Right now it appears to be a giant game - can they convince the entire world that money is God and since they own the money, they are God?
I think that's part of the goal, but other goals are pretty clear, and not unfamiliar. I think many of them want immortality, but our science is no where near sufficient for such a thing. I think many of them want population reduction, but are afraid if it is done wrong, they will be the ones who die. I think some want robots doing everything, and the rest of the population as slaves, but that's going to wreak of science fiction movies and people will fight it.
So clearly, the one thing they are spending their money most on, is the creation of despair, apathy, and hopelessness, to match up with weak wills, controlled community, and the abolition of the armed educated individual. Thus you have the gradual disintegration of libraries, the increase in written illiteracy, and many other horrible things that fools are quick to believe is only conspiracy or fantasy.
I'd like to see evidence of this evil dynasty of jews who control the world.
here's the most boring video I could find on the topic.
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:56 pm
Konako_Akari
YahuShalum
So are you going to sacrifice animals when the third temple is built? Which it is close to finished.
I highly doubt it Judism has changed a great deal since the days of the anciant romans
YahuShalum
So the torah is not to be taken literally? So Moses and His miracles didn't happen? Eli'Yahu didn't spar with the prophets of Ba'al? Noah didn't have his Ark? Tell me; what part isn't supposed to be taken literally?
Mabye they did, maybye they didnt, either way that is just the 1st level there are multiple levels to the torah and only G-d knows them all Its quite possible they might just be metaphorical but they could also be fact.
YahuShalum
And how do you connect with YHUH if your sin is still upon you? You have no sacrifice to cleanse your imperfection away, you have no priesthood. (Or are there actually Levites in your temples still?)
First of all Adonai is the more aproprite title. The YHUH is most likely based on the yud hay vuv hay (the hebrew letters used to represent god's name) We believe that god understands that humans are not perfect. We do not have to be perfect we just try to be the best we can. If we make a mistake we try to make up for it by apologizing the the person, then god, then trying to make up for the mistake and learning from it. Look up Yom Kippur that should awnser the rest of your questions on this matter
YahuShalum
Who speaks to YHUH for you?(Do you even hold His name sacred or have you brought it to waste replacing it with vain titles) Who enters the Holy of Holy makes the sin sacrifice then speaks for you?
Noone does, we each pray to him ourselves or in congregations. Of course we hold his name holly. there is no longer a sin sacrifice. this is why you need to do more then read the Torah. Your version of judism is from thousends of year ago.
YahuShalum
Or did you guys change the law to better suit your selves? Almost sounds like the jews of today are actually the Abomination of Desolation Daniel the prophet spoke of. You changed the laws and times.
Look at it this way, we change to adapt to the times while still staying true to our ideals. Compare it to how this nation has changed from its forming to now. Ways of life that do not change with time and with the needs of their people are doomed to fail. The Torah is called a living document because the interpretation of it changes.
I know what yom kippur is. ^^ Tell me do you guys still sacrifice the goats then place the sin onto the other goat and set it into the wild? Do you have a Levite do this? (They are the only ones allowed to be priests) And if you have studied torah then you know how Sacred YHUH's name is. Look what He did to the Yahudim for forgetting His name so many times. Eli'Yahu fought against them for using titles. The scriptures point towards Yahudim always worshiping idols because they call upon another name other then YHUH (I get it from the paleo Hebrew and even the pictographic.) Or should we ignore His Commandments? He seems to get very upset with the Yahudim. And show me one scripture that says we can call Him Adonia. He is Yahuah your Elohim. And tell me with yom kippur do you sin the next day? Are you perfect the next day or are you already in need of another sacrifice the very next day?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:56 pm
Konako_Akari
DysFUNKtional Duck
God Emperor Akhenaton
The only reason to hate Israel is because one hates Jews. I am sorry. I don't agree with everything Israel does, but if you criticize Israel but conveniently turn a blind eye to the horrible atrocities that the Islamic world commits, then you are an antisemitist.
And if you criticize Islam but turn a blind eye to the horrible atrocities committed by the Israeli's? What does that make you?
Yes there have been bad things in both sides but there is a key differance.
Israels goal is to be left in peace. If the terrorists stop fighting them there would be peace.
Most of the Islamic nations goal is to destroy Israel. If Israel stopped fighting them it would be anniliated.
If they stopped fighting, yes there would be peace. And if no one fought Hitler, there would have been peace. And someday, when the government takes our last freedoms and we don't fight, there will be peace. It's sweet and idealistic to be against violence of any sort. But it's not realistic. And it's not right.
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:00 pm
here's a bland list of quotes to creepy B movie music someone created. Not much in the way of modern video, but excellent in terms of accumulated WTF quotes throughout history.
edit, more like 4 or 5 WTF quotes and a lot of useless propaganda. But if you are a noob you probably need propaganda so you at least know what it all amounts to.
The fact that the federal reserve is owned and controlled by Jews - one of hundreds of races in this country - should be sufficient to indicate something isn't quite normal.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:09 pm
just because 6 million jews were tortured to death does not mean there are no evil jews conspiring to make a shitty economy their puppet. Likewise, just because the Germans excel at evil and technology, that doesn't mean there are no good germans who are bad at science.
The only reason to hate Israel is because one hates Jews. I am sorry. I don't agree with everything Israel does, but if you criticize Israel but conveniently turn a blind eye to the horrible atrocities that the Islamic world commits, then you are an antisemitist.
And if you criticize Islam but turn a blind eye to the horrible atrocities committed by the Israeli's? What does that make you?
Yes there have been bad things in both sides but there is a key differance.
Israels goal is to be left in peace. If the terrorists stop fighting them there would be peace.
Most of the Islamic nations goal is to destroy Israel. If Israel stopped fighting them it would be anniliated.
If they stopped fighting, yes there would be peace. And if no one fought Hitler, there would have been peace. And someday, when the government takes our last freedoms and we don't fight, there will be peace. It's sweet and idealistic to be against violence of any sort. But it's not realistic. And it's not right.
No, if no one had fought hitler he would have taken over every contrey in the world
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:13 pm
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The only reason to hate Israel is because one hates Jews. I am sorry. I don't agree with everything Israel does, but if you criticize Israel but conveniently turn a blind eye to the horrible atrocities that the Islamic world commits, then you are an antisemitist.
And if you criticize Islam but turn a blind eye to the horrible atrocities committed by the Israeli's? What does that make you?
Yes there have been bad things in both sides but there is a key differance.
Israels goal is to be left in peace. If the terrorists stop fighting them there would be peace.
Most of the Islamic nations goal is to destroy Israel. If Israel stopped fighting them it would be anniliated.
If they stopped fighting, yes there would be peace. And if no one fought Hitler, there would have been peace. And someday, when the government takes our last freedoms and we don't fight, there will be peace. It's sweet and idealistic to be against violence of any sort. But it's not realistic. And it's not right.
No, if no one had fought hitler he would have taken over every contrey in the world
Exactly. And there would be peace. The peace of total tyranny. That's what you'd have, if the Muslim community stopped fighting. The peace of tyranny.
So are you going to sacrifice animals when the third temple is built? Which it is close to finished.
I highly doubt it Judism has changed a great deal since the days of the anciant romans
YahuShalum
So the torah is not to be taken literally? So Moses and His miracles didn't happen? Eli'Yahu didn't spar with the prophets of Ba'al? Noah didn't have his Ark? Tell me; what part isn't supposed to be taken literally?
Mabye they did, maybye they didnt, either way that is just the 1st level there are multiple levels to the torah and only G-d knows them all Its quite possible they might just be metaphorical but they could also be fact.
YahuShalum
And how do you connect with YHUH if your sin is still upon you? You have no sacrifice to cleanse your imperfection away, you have no priesthood. (Or are there actually Levites in your temples still?)
First of all Adonai is the more aproprite title. The YHUH is most likely based on the yud hay vuv hay (the hebrew letters used to represent god's name) We believe that god understands that humans are not perfect. We do not have to be perfect we just try to be the best we can. If we make a mistake we try to make up for it by apologizing the the person, then god, then trying to make up for the mistake and learning from it. Look up Yom Kippur that should awnser the rest of your questions on this matter
YahuShalum
Who speaks to YHUH for you?(Do you even hold His name sacred or have you brought it to waste replacing it with vain titles) Who enters the Holy of Holy makes the sin sacrifice then speaks for you?
Noone does, we each pray to him ourselves or in congregations. Of course we hold his name holly. there is no longer a sin sacrifice. this is why you need to do more then read the Torah. Your version of judism is from thousends of year ago.
YahuShalum
Or did you guys change the law to better suit your selves? Almost sounds like the jews of today are actually the Abomination of Desolation Daniel the prophet spoke of. You changed the laws and times.
Look at it this way, we change to adapt to the times while still staying true to our ideals. Compare it to how this nation has changed from its forming to now. Ways of life that do not change with time and with the needs of their people are doomed to fail. The Torah is called a living document because the interpretation of it changes.
I know what yom kippur is. ^^ Tell me do you guys still sacrifice the goats then place the sin onto the other goat and set it into the wild? Do you have a Levite do this? (They are the only ones allowed to be priests) And if you have studied torah then you know how Sacred YHUH's name is. Look what He did to the Yahudim for forgetting His name so many times. Eli'Yahu fought against them for using titles. The scriptures point towards Yahudim always worshiping idols because they call upon another name other then YHUH (I get it from the paleo Hebrew and even the pictographic.) Or should we ignore His Commandments? He seems to get very upset with the Yahudim. And show me one scripture that says we can call Him Adonia. He is Yahuah your Elohim. And tell me with yom kippur do you sin the next day? Are you perfect the next day or are you already in need of another sacrifice the very next day?
I think I just told you that we don't have sacrifices or priests. look the way you're looking at judism is like looking as america at its founding then saying you understand it all today based on that.
I also just told you g-d understands we are not perfect. Honestly you don't just read the Torah take it all literally and say you understand judism better then those who actually practice it. It's like reading a guidebook to a foreign country memorizing it then going there and saying you understand the country better then the people who live there.
