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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:53 pm


That girl and Rho-Mu remain stand guard for ten millennia, that's what the epilogue said, until then she would stand watch, awaiting the new guardian.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:34 pm


ok note of pure noobishness what are you guys refering to (girl?) and in what Codex or lexicanum can i find this info (i love backstories and fluff) mainly I'm asking cause ive only played the PC game and read the novels, i will be hopefully buying my first army later this year. (lack of work is a killer)thanks for helping with a noobie question in advance.

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Oryn

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:06 pm


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They'll never kill off an army because its not selling. All they'll do is release new models to make them more appealing.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:05 pm


i say khorne, all the bloodshed in the universe feeds khorne therefore making him stronger and improving his ability to create demons,demons wich may overthrow the imperium of man.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:30 pm


But the Necrons are making a device to cut the known galaxy/universe off from the Warp, and that, if I am correct, would destroy the warp, because the humans aren't connected to it any more.
That maens that Khorne and the other Chaos Gods are royally chuffed if they finish it.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:48 pm


Humans are over extended as is so I don't seem them working up any big push.

Eldar with their craft worlds are few and farapart the only way I could see them doing anything is if they united all the craft worlds and decided to set down roots again for hem to be a major factor other than that I see them helping human's and Tau to fight the necrons and nids never fully commiting themselves

with the Tau on the eastern fringe and their greatly expanding tech should not be cast aside from a little factor like numbers with theit rapidly growing culture and the inclusion of other races like the kroot and vespids as well as any other critter that accepts the greater good. and with more planets will increase the number of fire warriors to fight blah blah. usual

the Dark eldar I will confess I know little about but bascially their like the eldar but evil wanderign space pirates? so I don't seem them being a major issue unless Abaddon really forces the chaos together then they could mess things up hardcore

Chaos again really needsd one solid army to be considered a mjor threat and from what I've seenthe gods are not likely going to let that happen.

Necrons Are slowly waking up so it fals more to the matter of hunting those who are still asleep and team beatign those currently existing necron armies

the Nid's. from what i can tell it's the one swarm Behemoth... am i right? but yeah if thats it they have no back up... enough said all you need is a butt load of nukes (human's got them) and just continous fire loading that thing with enough radition so anything born from it will be cancerous and die.

The orks will never be unified. if they grew some common sense and literally unified as a race they could sweep across the whole galaxy and wipe out the nids


I can't think of anything else... so yeah.... ^_^;

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:10 pm


I would like to state something about the Void Dragon, he is trapped in Mars and has no control of his powers, outside his chamber he can do nothing, so the Mechanicum is not in any harm from him.
Second, the C'Tan are attempting to seal of the warp so that it can not destroy them, they are incredibly vulnerable to psychic powers, leaving them increadibly vulnerable to the daemons of Tzeentch.

One more thing that i would like to point out... i voted Nids because they are unmeasurable, but they would not control the galaxy... no one could... the only one capable of that is the Daemons and Gods of the warp. The reason for this bieng is that they are ageless and unstoppable, no number of tyraind could stop the advance of the Daemon...

This is my vote, Nids. But in actuality i Vote Daemons of Chaos.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:44 pm


BHS, what are your sources on your claims about the Void Dragon being out of control and powerless outside of that chamber? Also, what are your sources on the vulnerability?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:01 pm


The Necron Codex and other Necron Fluff points out that the Nightbringer and other Ctan seek to close the Eye of Terror and prevent other warp rifts from opening do to the fact that the Necrons and C'Tan are vulnerable to the powers at work in the warp.

The Void Dragon is talked about in Mechanicum, the ninth book of the HH Series, he is kept contained in his Chamber by the Immortal Emperor of Mankind. The false god.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:31 pm


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Second, the C'Tan are attempting to seal of the warp so that it can not destroy them, they are incredibly vulnerable to psychic powers, leaving them increadibly vulnerable to the daemons of Tzeentch.

You know, it's never been stated that they are 'incredibly vulnerable' to psychic powers. It's more that C'tan have mastery over the physical universe, to the point that most purely physical weapons are easily circumvented, and physical damage easily overcome. Psychic weapons can sidestep some of their protections, and as neither C'tan or Necrons are psychic, they have no effective counter other than simple resilience. It still takes a psychic weapon of massive power to seriously damage a C'tan, like a Blackstone Fortress or Sword of Vaul.


Blackened Heart Sucubi
One more thing that i would like to point out... i voted Nids because they are unmeasurable, but they would not control the galaxy... no one could... the only one capable of that is the Daemons and Gods of the warp. The reason for this bieng is that they are ageless and unstoppable, no number of tyraind could stop the advance of the Daemon...


Nids could stop Daemons simply by eating everything in the galaxy. The Warp Gods and Daemons are reflections of the emotions of the psychic races. Without the emotions and psychic echoes from realspace, the Gods and Daemons will fade away and the Warp will revert to it's placid, pre-War in Heaven state.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:12 pm


The Tyranid leave an Echo in the warp, or more so a shadow, and themselves feed each god. The Hive Mind is a large Psychic node, and feeds (even if only remotely) feeds the gods of Chaos.

One more thing, Where do u get your info that the warp would recede?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:32 pm



The Tyranids leave a Shadow in the Warp because they themselves have no true Warp presence. They're a null. The reason that they're traceable through the warp is BECAUSE of the void that they leave in space.

The information on the warp receding is based on common sense. The warp and its denizens feed on hard emotion from realspace. The Nids have no emotion and thus no impact on the warp. Without the warp, the Daemons have no source of power or spawning point, and thus they would be "defeated."

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:41 pm


If the C'tan were vulnerable to psychic powers, as much as you suggest, then the Old Ones would have whipped their arses back in the Old Days.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:30 pm


Blackened Heart Sucubi
The Tyranid leave an Echo in the warp, or more so a shadow, and themselves feed each god. The Hive Mind is a large Psychic node, and feeds (even if only remotely) feeds the gods of Chaos

The Shadow in the Warp is the result of the massive multi-galactic psychic presence of the Hive Mind pushing local Warp phenomena out of the way. It's like the shadow of a shark scattering schools of fish. The Hive Mind has no direct connection to the Chaos Gods. The only way it feeds them is indirectly, as the races it encounters and consume fight wars against it, feeding hope, despair, anger, and reckless hedonism into the warp as they die. It's the psychic races it kills that feed the Chaos Gods, the Hive Mind itself has NO connection to the Gods.

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One more thing, Where do u get your info that the warp would recede?

Necron codex; The War in Heaven. The Warp was completely calm and nonthreatening until the grand war was well underway and psychic races were created and fielded in massive numbers as the Old Ones' shock troops. As the Warp is a reflection of the emotions of realspace psychic races, the constant, ugly face of war twisted the warp into it's hellish state. Though the War in Heaven ended, the Eldar and Orks remained in a state of constant war, and the continuing warfare ever since has kept the Warp in it's hell-state.

If the Tyranids pass through, consume all biomass, and leave the galaxy an empty husk; there's no more emotions for the warp to reflect. There's no longer anyone to beleive in the boogeymen of the warp. There's no individuals filled with hope, no honorable warfare, no despairing plague victims. Just emptiness. How long it would take is debatable, but eventually the Warp would be restored to it's placid state.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:51 am


But where does it say the Warp only reaches our galaxy, and not others?
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