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Doesnt Creationism apply to some of the concepts in which you explained?

So if one observes or has information that is not consistent with an empirical view of the Bible then it should be rejected?

No. Information from any source can be applicable, but there can only be one truth. If people find they're own info and has a strong belief, then so be it. But there's still only one truth and answer.

Okay I'll work it out for you. The circumference of a Circle is d * {pi} = C, where d is diameter, {pi} is the value of pi, C is the Circumference right? In 1 Kings 7:23-26 we are given a circular object that has the circumference of 30 cubits and a diameter of 10 cubits. Since they are the same units this means no conversion of units is necessary. So to find the value of pi apply the given values to the respective variables meaning that (10 cubits) * {pi} = (30 cubits). We can multiply the each side of the equation by the same number to keep the equation true. So I choose to multiply each side by 1/(10 cubits) so now we have 1/(10 cubits) * (10 cubits) * {pi} = 1/(10 cubits) * (30 cubits). We also know that if we have a number k and it is not equal to 0, then 1/k * k = 1. Since this is true, then 1/(10 cubits) * (10 cubits) = 1. By substitution we get 1 * {pi} = {pi} = 1/(10 cubits) * (30 cubits) = 3. So by the Bible, {pi} = 3. But it is observed that and demonstrated by man that {pi} = 3.141592... So we can trust man's observations here but not what the Bible states in this case why?

hmmmmmmm..... I think I g2 tell my friend about this. He's coming tomorrow for math review with me. xD

But if one rejects and deny the talents they have then what is the point of them keeping or having them? If one doesn't want the talents they are given how does one forcibly take it away? When one does not practice a skill they are good at do they not decrease in, or even lose, their ability to perform that talent?

True..... But here's a very broad opinion. Charistimac Authority, Adolf Hitler used this to promote German Nationality, Anti-Semitism, and Anti-Communism. He also used Propagenda, which's not a bad word, but a very horrible method, if used by the wrong hands. He was like a very strong, substantial, and free-like leader. He even has views of the bible, that he uses Charistimac Authority so he can gain lots of power, and also, to plot something, like a 1000 yr reign. Well, in my opinion, it's very easy to have this kind of power. And here's why. My friend, well dont know his name, but he's a breakdancer like me. His first time, going to practice, he did a free pike, and alot of other breakers are amazed, like he's a natural. So, based on my observations, and the history and mind of Adolf Hitler, it shows, that we dont need to practice. Because, people can adapt or copy the other person who has the talents. If Michael Phelps, the slacker who once before, broke alot of World Olympics records in swimming then anyone can do it, because we're all equal. Like, people that break world records, or people that can possibly land on the sun. Nothing's impossible, cause God created us to do all sorts of thing. If this kind of thing can happen to other, it can happen to you. And also, god gave us all a purpose to live. So, in my conclusion to all of this. It doesnt matter what we are, whether we're poor or malnorished. We can do anything.

Evolution's the change or morph of one organism's stage, to the next.

Gosh, you people don't have a way to clear things. Anyways, it's still a fittable definition, by one's or other's opinions though.

Yes once a person is born their genetic identity is set and for the most part won't change. Our sex cells, you know, sperm and eggs can have genetic variation that affects the genetic identity of our offspring and can be so great that they cannot reproduce with others of the parent species.

So, it proves that creationism stands out more than evolution, cause the people that can pass an offspring's a form of creationism. And if you don't believe me, I got a graph from wikipedia that can prove it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism#cite_note-pfaw-104
scroll down the site

Define the world. Are we talking about the world in the empirical since or the world meaning how we view reality?

reality.

The world was made as it was supposed to be. Yes that is true but a creator is not empirically observable. I believe that YHWH created this world yes but the story in Genesis I do not see as describing how the world was created but rather why the world was created. Creation stories cross-culturally are allegory for describing why we are the way we are. Most are based off the idea that as above, like below, as below, like above. The creation of a world is a cosmic representation of a person how they should come to view the world they interact with and why the world interacts with the person the way that it does.

If you believe Jehovah created the world, then you should be on my side of the subject. Besides, the story of Genesis proves creation of the world and men. There might be no why, but it's not the point, but is the truth. Human beings are some of the smartest kinds of species Jehovah has created, but can they can decide to act like idiots. So, the way a person views the world's one opinion.

Unless you are one of non-mainstream denominations such as Jehovah Witnesses (they believe in the resurrection though) or pre-Nicene Christian, you probably are going to agree with this "profession of faith".

Are you one of his witnesses? Cause I'm one. Where'cha get the reference by the way?

Doesnt Creationism apply to some of the concepts in which you explained?

Thats because evolution has alot involved in data. I mean, data and statistics are nothing! We don't need to have science to explain everything, when everything was already in our hands.

True we can and God wants us to be our best so his will can be served best. I'm glad you agree with me. I am of the opinion that active use of talents is needed, you seem not to be. I think we may have to just agree to disagree here.

Actually, some info on evolution's useful, but nothing's impossible. People can live with talents or not. Oh and btw, I asked my friend, and she said that the master of the servents in the parable story's Jesus. So, you're right. (Im srry, it's just that the story doesnt include Jesus's name, or anything..... Though, the story shows that we need to follow his rule. It doesnt mean that we all have to live with talents or not.)

I did not state this. In fact I actually said that this is not what evolution is. This was actually what you had described you believed evolution to be. Please do not misquote me. It can be very misleading to others reading this thread and is considered academically dishonest. I'm going to assume that this was a mistake.

Hey, Im a sophmore in high school. What more would you expect from me? xp

What does this graph have to do with anything? It shows various stances on teaching creationism and evolution in schools within the American population as of March 2000

But, it shows that creationism is very reasonable in the topic than evolution. Even if it's been shown since March 2000.

Truth cannot deny truth. Evolution as a process for the creation of species has been demonstrated to be true. This process is observable, the most common example is bacteria. It is one of the foundations of our current understanding of modern medicine. Without evolution, much of our understanding of diseases and how to treat them would not exist today.

That doesnt change anything. Truth can deny false views. Evolution has strengthen the way humans view science, though..... Reasonable data and scientific views don't prove anything, cause humans dont have a view of it yet. Everything doesnt have to be viewed as science.

No I am not a Jehovah's Witness but I am someone familiar with their beliefs. Since I do understand how your sect of Christianity interprets the Bible, I feel inclined to stop this debate with you because creationism as a empirical (as opposed to allegorical or experiential) fact is required, I do not wish to mislead you from your sect's teachings, though I do not agree with them. You are in the Church where YHWH wants you at and I can respect that. The Nicene Creed is a statement of faith that churches with apostolic tradition (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist, possibly Baptists?). Most protestant Churches use the Apostles' Creed since there is no reference to apostolic succession or implication of a specific Christological stance. Since your Church does not have apostolic succession, then you probably will not accept this creed as a statement of your faith.

I have examined a little more closely and see that I have misrepresented your faith when I stated the belief in a bodily resurrection. JW do not believe in any physical form of bodily resurrection.

I never go to church. Also, I would agree, though we share different opinions. Get this, science is already here before humans viewed it. They all have their view, I have mine.

My concern is mainly with creationism being taught as science. Of what we know so far, evolution is correct in explaining how creation occurred. Though it doesn't "disprove" that God created us as some extremist will argue and neither does it discredit the purpose of our creation myth. Science and faith are not in conflict.