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 Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:05 pm
Reading through all of this, I agree with Summer's latest post. It seems the simplest way, and eliminates the problem of kids aging much slower than their parents. My only suggestion is maybe make it a RL month (instead of two weeks), for people to work in a shop in Hogsmeade before becoming 30. Gives a little more time to RP that part of their life. 2 weeks seems very short.
And people don't have to get married and have a kid, right? Can they just own their own shop for a while if they want, and maybe have a kid later on?
Also, would there be Hogwarts trips to Hogsmeade, in which the students can visit (post in) the shops and visit their parents (if their parents live in Hogsmeade)?
EDIT: I also like the idea of shops being stickies.
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:17 am
@Allutain: I like the shops being stickies.
@Lyra:
Yes, a month does sound a little bit longer to live your life. And, you don't have to have a kid and get married immediately.
I think the kids should be able to visit their parents and the old student's shops.
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:51 am
A month is a good idea, since not everyone can get on everyday. So two weeks may seem too short.
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:09 am
Yes, A month would be much better.
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:33 am
Wow...i missed a lot.
I've read all four pages (or in the process). For those of you who may not know I type as I read so somethings may seem super late, but as I read on I may totally contradict something I said earlier...
Here's where I thought the graduates were (before): graduates never lose the opportunity to post in their common rooms. Once a Hufflepuff always a Puff, etc. Graduates basically retain all of their student privileges except they could not earn house points (which makes taking classes void, but teaching classes possible)
Subforums, subforums, subforums. The thing about subforums is once they're created they can never be deleted. Sooo unless it's a real need for a subforum, I don't think we should create it. If that were the case we'd have way too many subforums with one or two thread, or a hundred threads with one or two posts. A suggestion I would make is perhaps make another common room for graduates only if graduates wanted to talk amongst themselves.
Now when you go into creating new identities I think it's a great idea, but complicated. All of the lists are done mostly by usernames and not RP names. Not only that I agree that the whole house-elf rule might further complicate things. Why not just give graduates the option (with their username) of dropping back to first-year or re-taking the sorting test, and if they choose, they can recreate a new persona.
So far what I've been reading focuses on the roleplay of the graduate. If that's the case I'm way off... and I'll post ideas on that later. W
I'm changing bases here. I'll read everything first (after posting this) and then see what I'll say. I'm slightly confused.
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:57 am
The roleplaying... we, mods, are really just here to keep order. With that said, I think most of the ideas are great. We cover all of HPGoG; HPGoG is more than just role-playing.
As a mod, I would say that we don't want to be super specific on who your character can or cannot be. All of your ideas I say if you guys can feed it to others, go for it. You don't need us to make it rules or whatever. It's your character. As a graduate you get more freedom with your character so if you want your character to age or have special powers, that's up to you. You can present that idea to whoever graduates with you and you guys can be that generation. The aging system you guys have in talks I really like (the parts I understand). But I think it should be based on the individual's preference and we not make it a general rule.
When the ideas become general we have to make sure they have "staying" ability. Meaning I don't think it's a good idea to create 20 new threads today, and all of these threads be popular for one term, but then just die off.
*as for the subforum, perhaps since Quidditch Pitch is rarely used, what if we re-created that subforum to include all the stuff away from school including Hogsmeade, shops, etc.? It'll be another Roleplaying subforum that's not confined to Hogwarts. When it comes to that maybe that's another privilege graduates get that students don't: creating new threads in that subforum (whatever we decide to make it)*
With that said (remember I told you I post as I think of stuff) If we go ahead and create the Graduate subforum (which hopefully can include a spot for Quidditch if we ever get if again). As mods we create the subforum and say that it is a place created by the graduates so the graduates make up their own rules and stuff (as long as it doesn't break basic guild rules) and go from there. Then we can boast that [insert subforum name here] is a place created by graduates of today and yesterday. So that means all of the roleplaying and aging specifics would be up to you guys (as long as it doesn't interfere with the basic guild student structure)
Did I confuse you?? I'm sure I did. I confuse myself sometimes too (esp when I just jump into a conversation that's been going on for weeks)
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:00 am
Clarify one thing: The mods are going to make sure that whatever is decided for the graduates doesn't over complicate the system in place (especially the student lists) which helps us all keep sanity I hope. So what I was saying earlier is that we separate the ideas and allow the graduates free reign so to speak in their own corner of HPGoG
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:04 pm
If I may:
I, personally, don't see the student lists getting overcomplicated by repeated usernames. It'd be pretty simple to understand what's going on when Bob123 is listed both as a graduate and a 2nd year student.
Also, I like the idea of allowing the graduates themselves to come up with their own rules and roleplays within guild guidelines. However, I would caution people not to regulate themselves too strictly: you shouldn't HAVE to have your OC get married and have a kid just to go through another round at Hogwarts, nor should making/owning a shop be necessary.
Quidditch...we've been trying to get that thing off the ground for quite some time, as I remember. Nothing seems to have worked - there's just not quite enough interest in something as complicated as that game would be.
Personally, I'd allow a trial period where we switch the Quidditch subforum to a special Graduates hang-out. It doesn't have to be limited to Hogsmede or any other location.
If that doesn't work, we could always swap it back to a Quidditch pitch or even some other subforum idea, right?
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:59 pm
Er...
Can I step in?
It's defiantly is not necessary for your character to have kids and get married, etc.
Actually, from what little knowledge I have of how guilds work, since it costs a lot to create a sub-forum, since the Quidditch forum is a little..desolate, we could change the name of it, [if that's possible] etc.
I like the idea of grads being able to chose their rules within the the guild and gaia rules.
On the whole abundance on houses if we make a grad forum or Hogsmade forum, I think they're should be only 10 last names, so the Smitty's, Smiths, Geons, etc.
They're be more then 10 graduates, but lets saw Sam, married a the Oldest Smitty boy. Then, lets say..Summer , to keep down the amount of houses in the sub-forum, married the his twin. They would live in the same house too.
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:36 pm
Well, a lot of you know that I want KTweirdchick's account to become the Hufflepuff Ghost...
Mafalda could SOO take on the Fat Frier(sp?)...
wink
But I'm kinda a lot older than most graduates...
biggrin
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:29 pm
I'd love to be the Ravenclaw ghost.
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:24 pm
Ok...
I tried real hard to read all those rules, but they were making my poor little brain hurt..
sweatdrop
I like the idea of turning the Quiddich Pitch into a Hogsmeade. But I think we're making WAY too many rules... sweatdrop I think it would be cool to make it a sort of hybrid forum. (That way Heard it In the Hallway can be much more Role-Playish that it was when I left). Anyways, here are my ideas... Maybe it could be a sort of forum that the grads could be in charge of... Like a place for them to remember "the good old days" and a place for them to sort of give back to the newer students and House Elves in whatever way they can. We can make a sort of story (oo or maybe if the H. Monthly is up right now) about how the people of Hogsmeade are proud to be one of the first wizarding communities to pass equal rights acts for House Elves because of their invaluable help at the Battle of Hogwarts.
Pubs: Could be like discussion/RP forums, kind of like the Great Hall. The Three Broom Sticks for everyone, the Hog's Head for Grads only, and I have no idea what... Madam Puddyfoot's could be... Maybe a HP love rp. where we can pretend all we want that whatever pairs we wanted work really did work, whether we have evidence to the contrary or not...
Stores: Could be each have their own specialness... Or maybe we could make special games for the stores... Like... Weasley Wizarding Wheezes could be a special sort of game or something... or maybe just an RP... Like a game about what whichever HP or rp person is going to do with whatever it is they are going to buy... Honeydukes could be a similar thing... maybe that you have to come up with a candy to buy for the person who posted before you and explain why and what happened when you gave it to them, be it positive or negative (since we all know you can get candy from Honeydukes that would create either). Dervish & Bangs (basically a magical repair shop) could be a game in which you must you must explain how it is that your magical instrument or object became broken. Scrivenshaft's Quill Shop could be a game in which the person who posts before you tells you what bird you got the quill from and you act as an employee for the store and tell the story of how you obtained the feather and then tell the next person from which bird they got their quill quill feather. Gladrags Wizardwear could be a game in which we could maybe talk about an item that the person before us is wearing and how it might be magical, or whatever. Or maybe it could just be a place to talk about our avi's.
Stands: (my own little invention..) could maybe be real stores for the members; ID's, Siggy stuff, commissioned art, ect. They could each give their stand a special name.I was thinking maybe they could find a way to make whatever it is Magical-world related. Like "Lovegood's Easel" would be a good name for commissioned art. "Dennis Creevey's Personalized ID's"... "Mad Mundungus' Marvelous Mini's" Would be a cute name for a shop for those cute little siggy Chibi's... etc., etc., etc...
Other Places: Special RP spots, the grads could plan to make little dramas to play with the students with... Shrieking Shack: pretty self-explanatory in my opinion... A favorite haunt for Halloween... Maybe the grads could have control over the environment... Or if there is more than just me as a Ghost, maybe the ghosts could be in charge of it... Like an extra special spot for the super old members... smile For example, they can change whether the current RP is taking place inside or outside the shack. They could introduce new items into the story for the RPers to interact with however they will etc...
3nodding The Post Office: could be a place where maybe certain house elves could be in charge of the RP's atmosphere. Where they would have abilities similar to the ghosts in the shrieking shack. The Train Station: could be an RP in which maybe the teachers would have control of the atmosphere... Then the train could roll in from the White Tomb during the sorting of every term and the grads could pick a "conductor" among them to run that term's RP travels. Sirius' Cave: sounds much better place to allow the Grads control of the environment. Then, maybe we could even make up places for each House to be in control of. And on top of that, grads should be able to make up their own RP's to their heart's content. Whether they want to allow students or elves in would be their own choice and they could make up whatever rules they want for their own RP thread.
The way that we could distinguish them would be in their titles...
There would be an announcement thread in which the rules and what not were posted. Example's: The Hogsmeade Bulletin OR Town Hall)
The Stickies I would guess would be the Pubs... Example's:
The Three Broomsticks (all are welcome)
The Hog's Head (graduates only, please)
Then Stores could have brackets around their titles. Example: [Honeydukes]
Stands could have double parenthesis around their titles. Example:
((Lovegood's Easel: Commissioned Art))
Places for controlled-atmosphere RP could be in all caps. Maybe with whoever is in charge in parenthesis as well. Example's:
SURIUS' CAVE (controlled by the graduates)
THE SHRIEKING SHACK (controlled by the ghosts)
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:20 am
Pubs:I like the idea of the pubs being rp areas, but I'm sure about the shops being games.
Shops:After all, we do have the Spinner's End. Like in the role play, my character is learning how to craft wands, and she's made it clear that she wants a wand repair shop when she's older.
So, if she opened a shop, people could 'come in' 'drop their wand off' fill out a form and my character or my employees would role play back and say, your wand is ready, or send out an owl at the post office.
Stands:
I like the idea of the stands too.
They seem a little place that aren't role play shops, but places where people can get goodies for their profile etc.
Houses:
The whole house idea is kind of fading for me, but we could just have one topic that's sticked that says housing neighborhood, were grads could rp and say, 'I walked up to my front door, then saw my neighbor across the street and I went over to saw hello..." or students during break only could visit their parents
Announcements, The Train Station, Post Office, Sirius's Cave: I like this idea too, and I like the cover name of Town Hall. I also like the train station idea, and the post office is a good one too.
I've just had an idea, but what if like Godric's Hollow, Sirius's Cave is what we call the residential area. Since I'm sure there's not that much housing directly in Hogsmade.
It wouldn't have to be directly by Sirius's Cave, but near it. Because, like you said, it could be the one controlled by the grads.
Do I get a say in this at all, or is what I'm putting in is all rubbish? ninja
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:26 pm
Alutian If I may:
I, personally, don't see the student lists getting overcomplicated by repeated usernames. It'd be pretty simple to understand what's going on when Bob123 is listed both as a graduate and a 2nd year student.
Also, I like the idea of allowing the graduates themselves to come up with their own rules and roleplays within guild guidelines. However, I would caution people not to regulate themselves too strictly: you shouldn't HAVE to have your OC get married and have a kid just to go through another round at Hogwarts, nor should making/owning a shop be necessary.
Quidditch...we've been trying to get that thing off the ground for quite some time, as I remember. Nothing seems to have worked - there's just not quite enough interest in something as complicated as that game would be.
Personally, I'd allow a trial period where we switch the Quidditch subforum to a special Graduates hang-out. It doesn't have to be limited to Hogsmede or any other location.
If that doesn't work, we could always swap it back to a Quidditch pitch or even some other subforum idea, right?
The house-elf list is probably the biggest list, but it's the easiest too, so I would think the Heads have more say in that complication with the graduates. With that said, the way you explained it seems simple enough and it shouldn't be overly difficult to combine that with the posting totals. So is that specific username not allowed to change Houses?
That's exactly what I'm thinking. As long as they don't strict themselves too much it'll be a fun idea, and less for the mods would have to direct. I was hoping we could change the Quidditch Pitch to that subforum and if Quidditch ever gets running again, we'll just combine them some way.
-please look at the Upkeep request when you get time Alutian-
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:27 pm
Hope Maxime Hagrid Well, a lot of you know that I want KTweirdchick's account to become the Hufflepuff Ghost...
Mafalda could SOO take on the Fat Frier(sp?)...
wink
But I'm kinda a lot older than most graduates...
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[/quote There was an idea with ghosts and common rooms that we had in place a little while ago. PM me and I'll fill you in (since it's nothing something that's been released yet)
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