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 Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:55 pm
Ok... sorry to break up the Tobi is Obito love fest, but Tobi is Madara. If you read the Manga, Tobi explains his life as a younger man to Uchiha Sasuke after the death of Uchiha Itachi (which to clear it up... ITACHI JUST FEEL OVER DEAD!!! UCHIHA SASUKE DID NOT AND I REPEAT DID NOT KILL ITACHI!!!!), and you even see that he has TWO eyes, yes TWO EYES!!! Look it up people... it proves that Tobi is infact Madara Uchiha. He just uses Tobi as an alias as to divert people away from the theory that he is still alive... scream scream scream
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:32 pm
Gshadow186 tobi is obito there is alot of liklyness there *cough* Naruto is like Yond, but naruto is not yond, Naruto is like Jiraiya, but naruto is not jiraiya. Sakura is like Tsunade, but sakura is not tsunade, Lee is like Maito Gai, but Lee is not Maito Gai. Sasuke is like Orochimaru, but sasuke is not orochimaru... ETC. Just because one person is like another, does not automatically mean that they them self is that person.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:55 pm
Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi- Gshadow186 tobi is obito there is alot of liklyness there *cough* Naruto is like Yond, but naruto is not yond, Naruto is like Jiraiya, but naruto is not jiraiya. Sakura is like Tsunade, but sakura is not tsunade, Lee is like Maito Gai, but Lee is not Maito Gai. Sasuke is like Orochimaru, but sasuke is not orochimaru... ETC. Just because one person is like another, does not automatically mean that they them self is that person. yes, but all those people met. and he said likeliness meaning obito being tobi is more plausable.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:19 pm
insanic_lollipop Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi- Gshadow186 tobi is obito there is alot of liklyness there *cough* Naruto is like Yond, but naruto is not yond, Naruto is like Jiraiya, but naruto is not jiraiya. Sakura is like Tsunade, but sakura is not tsunade, Lee is like Maito Gai, but Lee is not Maito Gai. Sasuke is like Orochimaru, but sasuke is not orochimaru... ETC. Just because one person is like another, does not automatically mean that they them self is that person. yes, but all those people met. and he said likeliness meaning obito being tobi is more plausable. still doesnt make it true
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:16 pm
insanic_lollipop Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi- Gshadow186 tobi is obito there is alot of liklyness there *cough* Naruto is like Yond, but naruto is not yond, Naruto is like Jiraiya, but naruto is not jiraiya. Sakura is like Tsunade, but sakura is not tsunade, Lee is like Maito Gai, but Lee is not Maito Gai. Sasuke is like Orochimaru, but sasuke is not orochimaru... ETC. Just because one person is like another, does not automatically mean that they them self is that person. yes, but all those people met. and he said likeliness meaning obito being tobi is more plausable. Does it matter? Obito is not Tobi, there is overwhelming evidence to prove this fact, ALSO let me point out a vital VITAL flaw in your Tobi is Obito flaw. For Tobi to have the new sharingan *which he does* not only would obito had to have been saved from the jaws of death, he would also have to have the eyes of another mangekyou sharingan activated uchiha. The only person with the eternal mangekyou sharingan, is Madara. This is explained in the story. The only uchiha's known to have activated the Mangekyou is Madara Uchiha, Madara's brother, Itachi Uchiha, and now Sasuke Uchiha. Two of the three are dead one well before obito's death, one well after. NOT ONLY THAT but the user who has the eternal mangekyou, MUST previously have the mangekyou before the transplant. Obito did NOT have the mangekyou active he had the first tomoe sharingan active before he died. SO 1. Zetsu eats people and does not save them. 2. Tobi has the eternal mangekyou, Madara is the only known person to ever obtain them. 3. Obito could not have activated the eternal mangekyou, as he did not have the mangekyou sharingan active before his death which is a pre req to have the eternal mangekyou. 3a. The only four people to have activated mangekyou was, Madara, his brother, Itachi, and sasuke. Madara's brother gave madara his eyes, Itachi died well after obito did, and sasuke is not dead. 4. Obito was completely crushed under the boulders, no he was not rescued, he's dead. Tobi is not obito, Madara is Tobi, end of story.
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:00 pm
Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi- insanic_lollipop Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi- Gshadow186 tobi is obito there is alot of liklyness there *cough* Naruto is like Yond, but naruto is not yond, Naruto is like Jiraiya, but naruto is not jiraiya. Sakura is like Tsunade, but sakura is not tsunade, Lee is like Maito Gai, but Lee is not Maito Gai. Sasuke is like Orochimaru, but sasuke is not orochimaru... ETC. Just because one person is like another, does not automatically mean that they them self is that person. yes, but all those people met. and he said likeliness meaning obito being tobi is more plausable. Does it matter? Obito is not Tobi, there is overwhelming evidence to prove this fact, ALSO let me point out a vital VITAL flaw in your Tobi is Obito flaw. For Tobi to have the new sharingan *which he does* not only would obito had to have been saved from the jaws of death, he would also have to have the eyes of another mangekyou sharingan activated uchiha. The only person with the eternal mangekyou sharingan, is Madara. This is explained in the story. The only uchiha's known to have activated the Mangekyou is Madara Uchiha, Madara's brother, Itachi Uchiha, and now Sasuke Uchiha. Two of the three are dead one well before obito's death, one well after. NOT ONLY THAT but the user who has the eternal mangekyou, MUST previously have the mangekyou before the transplant. Obito did NOT have the mangekyou active he had the first tomoe sharingan active before he died. SO 1. Zetsu eats people and does not save them. 2. Tobi has the eternal mangekyou, Madara is the only known person to ever obtain them. 3. Obito could not have activated the eternal mangekyou, as he did not have the mangekyou sharingan active before his death which is a pre req to have the eternal mangekyou. 3a. The only four people to have activated mangekyou was, Madara, his brother, Itachi, and sasuke. Madara's brother gave madara his eyes, Itachi died well after obito did, and sasuke is not dead. 4. Obito was completely crushed under the boulders, no he was not rescued, he's dead. Tobi is not obito, Madara is Tobi, end of story. 1.) tobi has eternal mangekyou because he didn't die. 2.) you say madara is the only known person to have eternal. key words: only KNOWN person. 3.) actually, kakashi has mangekyou. and if kakashi has Obito's eye, then its obviously possible for obito to also have activated it. 4.)you don't know he was completely crushed. kakashi and rin abandoned him before the whole thing collapsed. 5.) it doesn't matter if itachi died before obito "died" or if madara's bro gave him his eyes. 6.) if what you say about handing down eyes is true, then how did Itachi gain the eyes? and what about sasuke? and how did madara gain his? also, i still also like my friend Deanna's theory. the one called "the Hikaru theory." her theory is that Tobi had an intrest in Akatsuki for a long time. as we all know, orochimaru was in akatsuki for a while, and orochimaru is also the inventor of the body replacment jutsu thing, (you know, where he takes over a body for three years,) and if obito had sharingan, he could have copied that jutsu and used it on madara (or vice versa) thus explaining the strange change in Tobi's attitude. simply put, Hikaru theory rocks. (thanks to Deanna , my closest friend, for allowing me to use the Hikaru theory. heart )
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:37 pm
insanic_lollipop 1.) tobi has eternal mangekyou because he didn't die. Tobi has the eternal mangekyou because he is madara. Quote: 2.) you say madara is the only known person to have eternal. key words: only KNOWN person. He's the only uchiha besides itachi and sasuke left, and the eternal mangekyou basically gives the user eternal life so far as it's shown. Quote: 3.) actually, kakashi has mangekyou. and if kakashi has Obito's eye, then its obviously possible for obito to also have activated it. Kakashi did not complete the mangekyou, neither is it the same mangekyou of madara, itachi or sasuke, plainly because kakashi is not uchiha. Quote: 4.)you don't know he was completely crushed. kakashi and rin abandoned him before the whole thing collapsed. Iwa nin collapsed the only opening left, yes he was completely crushed. Quote: 5.) it doesn't matter if itachi died before obito "died" or if madara's bro gave him his eyes. Actually itachi died after obito did, and yes it does matter. As in the story, Madara, his brother, Itachi, and now sasuke, are the only ones able to activate mangekyou, and to acquire the eternal mangekyou, the donor must have activated mangekyou before the procedure. As they are the only ones mentioned to have had activated it, it is impossible for obito to have had it. Quote: 6.) if what you say about handing down eyes is true, then how did Itachi gain the eyes? and what about sasuke? and how did madara gain his? Itachi killed his best friend for the mangekyou, he did not have the eternal mangekyou, Sasuke witnessed the death of his closest 'friend' his brother, which activated his mangekyou and does not have eternal mangekyou. Madara gained his ETERNAL mangekyou by having his brothers eyes transplanted in place of his to reverse the blinding process of which the mangekyou has. Quote: also, i still also like my friend Deanna's theory. the one called "the Hikaru theory." her theory is that Tobi had an intrest in Akatsuki for a long time. as we all know, orochimaru was in akatsuki for a while, and orochimaru is also the inventor of the body replacment jutsu thing, (you know, where he takes over a body for three years,) and if obito had sharingan, he could have copied that jutsu and used it on madara (or vice versa) thus explaining the strange change in Tobi's attitude. simply put, Hikaru theory rocks. (thanks to Deanna , my closest friend, for allowing me to use the Hikaru theory. heart ) Here's one thing wrong with that my little buddy, Sharingan can only copy jutsu's that have handseals, when orochimaru uses that jutsu, he does not use handseals
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:38 pm
Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi- insanic_lollipop 1.) tobi has eternal mangekyou because he didn't die. Tobi has the eternal mangekyou because he is madara. Quote: 2.) you say madara is the only known person to have eternal. key words: only KNOWN person. He's the only uchiha besides itachi and sasuke left, and the eternal mangekyou basically gives the user eternal life so far as it's shown. Quote: 3.) actually, kakashi has mangekyou. and if kakashi has Obito's eye, then its obviously possible for obito to also have activated it. Kakashi did not complete the mangekyou, neither is it the same mangekyou of madara, itachi or sasuke, plainly because kakashi is not uchiha. Quote: 4.)you don't know he was completely crushed. kakashi and rin abandoned him before the whole thing collapsed. Iwa nin collapsed the only opening left, yes he was completely crushed. Quote: 5.) it doesn't matter if itachi died before obito "died" or if madara's bro gave him his eyes. Actually itachi died after obito did, and yes it does matter. As in the story, Madara, his brother, Itachi, and now sasuke, are the only ones able to activate mangekyou, and to acquire the eternal mangekyou, the donor must have activated mangekyou before the procedure. As they are the only ones mentioned to have had activated it, it is impossible for obito to have had it. Quote: 6.) if what you say about handing down eyes is true, then how did Itachi gain the eyes? and what about sasuke? and how did madara gain his? Itachi killed his best friend for the mangekyou, he did not have the eternal mangekyou, Sasuke witnessed the death of his closest 'friend' his brother, which activated his mangekyou and does not have eternal mangekyou. Madara gained his ETERNAL mangekyou by having his brothers eyes transplanted in place of his to reverse the blinding process of which the mangekyou has. Quote: also, i still also like my friend Deanna's theory. the one called "the Hikaru theory." her theory is that Tobi had an intrest in Akatsuki for a long time. as we all know, orochimaru was in akatsuki for a while, and orochimaru is also the inventor of the body replacment jutsu thing, (you know, where he takes over a body for three years,) and if obito had sharingan, he could have copied that jutsu and used it on madara (or vice versa) thus explaining the strange change in Tobi's attitude. simply put, Hikaru theory rocks. (thanks to Deanna , my closest friend, for allowing me to use the Hikaru theory. heart ) Here's one thing wrong with that my little buddy, Sharingan can only copy jutsu's that have handseals, when orochimaru uses that jutsu, he does not use handseals this guy just keeps getting owned in here, give it a rest already tobi is madara and obito is dead accept that and move on
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:43 am
the great uchiha madara! When Tobi show his face Kisame he told his madar uchiha *in manga*
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:33 pm
Madara Uchiha sry* xp
Obito is dead.. Kakashi gona dies to noooo! Meybe not!
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:26 pm
ya, he just died last chapter. i read it on onemanga, the most reliable manga site ever!! and im not gonna debate now... it's 4:30 am right now, and i feel like crap. plus, even i, the great theorist, am beginning to see you people's reasoning... stare
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:15 pm
obito died, ppl don't survive boulders on half their body (including the head) and the naruto time line's messed up i mean how did sarutobi (sandaime) not die of age and they have big computer monitors and microfons and ear pieces but no guns or stuffss
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:43 pm
Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi- insanic_lollipop Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi insanic_lollipop Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi Tobi is madara, obito can not control the kyubi, or any of the other bijuu obito also didn't have mangekyou, obito is dead, he could not have been saved he was crushed on both sides with rocks. actually, only his right side was crushed, he could have gotten mangekyou later on, and what do you mean by "control a bijuu"? Think, think very hard. Obito had his right side crushed the whole right side. His eye is gone, his left eye is in kakashi, his right eye is smushed, now, tobi's eye hole is on the right, how is this possible? It's not, Obito is not Tobi, Tobi is the real Madara. And, Madara along with Shodaime Hokage could control the bijuu. The nine bijuu were offered to the different villages as offerings of peace. They were offered by Shodaime and madara when they started konohagakure. that's nice n' all, but that doesn't mean s**t. Tobi hasn't shown he can control it, so WTF are you talking about? Onemanga.com, go back a few chapters, he states clear as day, madara who is tobi, controlled the kyuubi and used it to attack konoha.
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:45 pm
Saint Hallow Houka Kami Kobushi Deshi- Yeah, one thing about that, the body has to be alive, obito's body was completely crushed. Orochimaru's technique is unique to him. Also, when itachi destroys his clan, madara's outline looks more like his own original body than obito's would, read the manga. holy christ! obito was obviously alive, madara prolly had a different body at that time, and the sharingan can allow madara to copy orochimaru's technique! xp
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:51 pm
I believe that tobi is madara because of three facts.
1. he says it himself and itachi says it as well.
2. he is somewhat immortal because he stole his brother's eyes which itachi was trying to do to fool his brother into thinking he was still evil til the end of his life.
3. while jaraiya and the others say he isn't immortal, in the recent events that have occured tobi does say that he wants to wield the king of hell to regain his sharingan's power.
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