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 Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:43 pm
Seraphes Tyr Hawk huh... alot of stuff I already knew... but good info nontheless. I thought you were going to talk about some REALLY in depth stuff... like, if I remember correctly, Sephiroth's name's meaning, or it's connection to Tifa's last name... and stuff like that. (i thought it was interesting o.O) sry for 2x posting but my Gothic black magic freak friend told me that sephiroth comes from the sephirothic circle in black magic. It's used to get power to yourself instead of using a summon circle. My friend said there are two types one for summoning demons and another to gain magical powers. I've heard that Sephiroth are something like the different qualities of some deity (deities?) in some religion... Or something. (*would look it up if the computer wasn't acting funny*). On a side note, if you look at the Gate in the Fullmetal Alchemist manga, it says Sephiroth on it, so Seraphes, your explanation makes sense in the case.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:13 pm
i went on wikipedia and they say that Sephiroths are qualities given by god to humans or sumthin like that my jew friend will give me more info tomorrow.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:04 pm
Sephiroth
This name derives from the Kabbala, a religious lore that has its origins in Jewish mysticism:
"At the Creation," explains Kabbalist spokesman Steve Edelman, "God sent out a pulse of energy into the void. It presently branched and sorted into ten distinct spheres or aspects, corresponding to the numbers 1-10. These are known as the Sephiroth. To return to God, the soul must negotiate each of the Sephiroth, from ten back to one. Armed with magic and faith, Kabbalists have set out to conquer the Sephiroth. Many Kabbalist secrets have to do with making the trip successfully.
"Now the Sephiroth fall into a pattern, which is called the Tree of Life. It is also the body of God. Drawn among the ten spheres are 22 paths. Each path corresponds to a letter of the Hebrew alphabet, and also to one of the cards called 'Major Arcana' in the Tarot.
"Some Sephiroth are active or masculine, others passive or feminine. But the Tree itself is a unity, rooted exactly at the Bodenplatte. It is the axis of a particular Earth, a new dispensation, brought into being by the Great Firing."
(Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon, p. 75
For more stuff like this go to http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/nchara.shtml#7
Very good site.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:12 pm
MoogleKing Sephiroth This name derives from the Kabbala, a religious lore that has its origins in Jewish mysticism: "At the Creation," explains Kabbalist spokesman Steve Edelman, "God sent out a pulse of energy into the void. It presently branched and sorted into ten distinct spheres or aspects, corresponding to the numbers 1-10. These are known as the Sephiroth. To return to God, the soul must negotiate each of the Sephiroth, from ten back to one. Armed with magic and faith, Kabbalists have set out to conquer the Sephiroth. Many Kabbalist secrets have to do with making the trip successfully. "Now the Sephiroth fall into a pattern, which is called the Tree of Life. It is also the body of God. Drawn among the ten spheres are 22 paths. Each path corresponds to a letter of the Hebrew alphabet, and also to one of the cards called 'Major Arcana' in the Tarot. "Some Sephiroth are active or masculine, others passive or feminine. But the Tree itself is a unity, rooted exactly at the Bodenplatte. It is the axis of a particular Earth, a new dispensation, brought into being by the Great Firing." (Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon, p. 75 For more stuff like this go to http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/nchara.shtml#7 Very good site. That is very cool... MoogleKing To return to God, the soul must negotiate each of the Sephiroth, from ten back to one. So that, I suppose, is symbolic of our Sephiroth trying to become a god?
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:43 pm
Ravenwolf MoogleKing Sephiroth This name derives from the Kabbala, a religious lore that has its origins in Jewish mysticism: "At the Creation," explains Kabbalist spokesman Steve Edelman, "God sent out a pulse of energy into the void. It presently branched and sorted into ten distinct spheres or aspects, corresponding to the numbers 1-10. These are known as the Sephiroth. To return to God, the soul must negotiate each of the Sephiroth, from ten back to one. Armed with magic and faith, Kabbalists have set out to conquer the Sephiroth. Many Kabbalist secrets have to do with making the trip successfully. "Now the Sephiroth fall into a pattern, which is called the Tree of Life. It is also the body of God. Drawn among the ten spheres are 22 paths. Each path corresponds to a letter of the Hebrew alphabet, and also to one of the cards called 'Major Arcana' in the Tarot. "Some Sephiroth are active or masculine, others passive or feminine. But the Tree itself is a unity, rooted exactly at the Bodenplatte. It is the axis of a particular Earth, a new dispensation, brought into being by the Great Firing." (Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon, p. 75 For more stuff like this go to http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/nchara.shtml#7 Very good site. That is very cool... MoogleKing To return to God, the soul must negotiate each of the Sephiroth, from ten back to one. So that, I suppose, is symbolic of our Sephiroth trying to become a god? you did copy paste right....... (Or else you have time to lose) but thank for the info biggrin
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:07 pm
heart Cait Sith is more than just a fairy tale creature that brings good luck. He's from old Scottish folklore, a creature that resembles a cat with a white spot on his chest. Some people think that he's actually a witch! Oh yeah, it's also pronunced "Caught Shee", and also explains why he has a scottish accent in the movie. (But my kitty's name is still pronounced kate sith 3nodding ) heart
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Friendly Conversationalist
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:44 pm
Rietalienko
heart Cait Sith is more than just a fairy tale creature that brings good luck. He's from old Scottish folklore, a creature that resembles a cat with a white spot on his chest. Some people think that he's actually a witch! Oh yeah, it's also pronunced "Caught Shee", and also explains why he has a scottish accent in the movie. (But my kitty's name is still pronounced kate sith 3nodding ) heart
Also there is a French tale about a talking cat with boots (I'm pretty sure it been traduce in English) called ''le chat botté'' and it is a caith sith(there is only one in french culture)
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:41 pm
El Cid is a nobleman of Spain between 1040 and 1099
Le Cid is also a play from Molière (witch is better than shaekspear if you ask me xp ) witch ive read but in both they have no allusions to airships...or mechanics.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:42 am
Thanks. This was pretty informative.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:02 am
it's a pleasure Also the name montblanc, in final fantasy tactics and XII, means white mountain in french. Quote: Sirens- Greek mythology woman mixed with birds whose voices bring young men to their doom plays a role in Homer's The Odyssey. summon also they stink like hell and are the wrath of Zeus or something like that
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:47 am
I don't know if it was posted, but Separoths is the Jewish map of God...
It also has a referance in Neon Genisis Evenganlion...((My favorite anime^^))
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:46 am
You did well, a good place to find stuff is if you search out: liber paganum. It's done alphbetically so you can just run across names you know.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:27 am
I wish I could contribute anything to this thread.... but all I really know is in the games. So I suppose I'll try try to keep this thread on the first page so more people will see it.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:19 pm
Its ok to say now that the FF designers did their homework to reference all of these things.
MY TURN!
I read something on gamefaqs once and have yet to find it again but it references alot of the translated things in FF that was 'ameicanized' not to offend or otherwise piss someone off. I dont recall alot of it (and when i find it again ill post it up here) but i remember In X (you already hit this) Khimari's "Spirit Lance" was changed from the spear that pierced Christ's side and killed him. It was called something completely different. (havent seen the name in a while.) Also there must be soo many legends that they reference im just stating another that tidus' ultimate weapon the caldabrog was an (Irish or Scottish) blade supposed to be powerful enough that it could slice a hill in two.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:44 am
Angra Mainyu (also known as Ahriman, both appear in FF) is the evil spirit of the Zoroastrian religion. Think devil but with destructive tendancies rather than corruptive.
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