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 Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:29 am
angelitaxdexmuerto No problem. XD of course I note a typo AFTER you said that. *headwall* Murphy's Law. And as for attitude. XD I think attitude has been given and taken by everyone who frequents there. The God board turned into the GD on us minus the se- wait. Nevermind. XD Ghaundaur's thread already degenerated to porn. It's the GD now. I threw in a pic even! I'll edit it. I tend to be freaky like that. As for the rest... all I can say is 'lol' : P (Must end this here as I am, myself, getting too chatty.)
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:03 pm
I noticed that there are alot of threads that no one even posts in. In order to keep things from cluttering they should be deleted. Keep the ones that people actually post in. I'm talking about in the sub-forums and here as well.
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:30 pm
Quenthal I noticed that there are alot of threads that no one even posts in. In order to keep things from cluttering they should be deleted. Keep the ones that people actually post in. I'm talking about in the sub-forums and here as well. Thanks Quenthal. Uxia is going to consider moving unused threads here soon. I myself don't have the strength of heart to do it. Leave it to a female to get the job done where we males fall short!
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:08 pm
Draevir Quenthal I noticed that there are alot of threads that no one even posts in. In order to keep things from cluttering they should be deleted. Keep the ones that people actually post in. I'm talking about in the sub-forums and here as well. Thanks Quenthal. Uxia is going to consider moving unused threads here soon. I myself don't have the strength of heart to do it. Leave it to a female to get the job done where we males fall short! I'm actually going to do that right now before I label the God or Location/Faction Sub-forums. If there is a thread that revives from the Archive, I'm all for moving it back to the correct sub-forum where it belongs. There will be a thread resurrection guide posted as a sticky on the top of that specific forum.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:47 pm
There appears to be an issue that I feel needs to be addressed.
Every stable system of power has a series of operations often called a system of "Checks and Balances" The first system of rule to use this was the Ancient city of Athens, when the Greeks established the FIRST Democracy. Throughout time many nations and groups and organizations have implemented this process. The Roman Republic is another example. As is pre-Shogunate Japan. then in 1787 the newly founded United States of America also applied this practice, in order to prevent one group from either gaining too much power or abusing its power. They setup 3 main branches of the government: The Judaical Branch, the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch. The 3 branches had to consult the others based on a strict order of Laws and guidelines. To put this in a simple context: If the Executive Branch wanted to pass a Law, it had to be approved by The Legislative Branch in a vote. Then it would be taken to the Judaical Branch to be approved as being "legal" or "Constitutional". In other words, if the Bill conflicted an already existing Law, it could not be passed. The same goes if the Legislative Branch voted on a Bill. they have to send it to the Judaical Branch FIRST. Then, if the Judaical Branch approved it, it is sent the the Executive Branch. The Executive can choose to allow it or to "kill" or "Veto" it. If the Branch does not agree. If at anytime the people of a nation are in severe disagreement with a member of a specific Branch(or on of the members of a Branch commited an infraction against the Laws)It is in the FULL right and POWER of the people to remove said person from power, position or state.
In other words, We need a BETTER Organized, BETTER Communicating, BETTER Controlled Guild Staff!Also we need a CLEAR and DETAILED set of Rules. I would be willing to write the rules into a very clear and detailed manner if you would like. But READ this carefully.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:07 pm
Lord Izaran There appears to be an issue that I feel needs to be addressed. Every stable system of power has a series of operations often called a system of "Checks and Balances" The first system of rule to use this was the Ancient city of Athens, when the Greeks established the FIRST Democracy. Throughout time many nations and groups and organizations have implemented this process. The Roman Republic is another example. As is pre-Shogunate Japan. then in 1787 the newly founded United States of America also applied this practice, in order to prevent one group from either gaining too much power or abusing its power. They setup 3 main branches of the government: The Judaical Branch, the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch. The 3 branches had to consult the others based on a strict order of Laws and guidelines. To put this in a simple context: If the Executive Branch wanted to pass a Law, it had to be approved by The Legislative Branch in a vote. Then it would be taken to the Judaical Branch to be approved as being "legal" or "Constitutional". In other words, if the Bill conflicted an already existing Law, it could not be passed. The same goes if the Legislative Branch voted on a Bill. they have to send it to the Judaical Branch FIRST. Then, if the Judaical Branch approved it, it is sent the the Executive Branch. The Executive can choose to allow it or to "kill" or "Veto" it. If the Branch does not agree. If at anytime the people of a nation are in severe disagreement with a member of a specific Branch(or on of the members of a Branch commited an infraction against the Laws)It is in the FULL right and POWER of the people to remove said person from power, position or state. In other words, We need a BETTER Organized, BETTER Communicating, BETTER Controlled Guild Staff!Also we need a CLEAR and DETAILED set of Rules. I would be willing to write the rules into a very clear and detailed manner if you would like. But READ this carefully. A clear rule list instead of a spread out thread yes. Possibly a hidden "keyword" within it (like "reply with "word" if you've read this") within the last couple of statements.) I have an example in my "rules" section of the RP I tried to start in the RP thread. That way, you can keep tabs on everyone who's read it more accurately. If they don't reply with that key word, they didn't read it. Having a poll up top does not ensure it, since many people just vote for the gold. However, the staff is well organized, they do communicate well, and they are not "out of control" like you're implying both here and in your CB thread on this matter. They don't go on banning sprees, if ever banning period, they don't lock or delete threads without both announcing it in forum upkeep and without reason. Off Topic threads are grounds for lock/deletion in any forum. This is also coming from someone who's been warned before. So I'm not saying this just because it hasn't applied to me.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:11 pm
angelitaxdexmuerto Lord Izaran There appears to be an issue that I feel needs to be addressed. Every stable system of power has a series of operations often called a system of "Checks and Balances" The first system of rule to use this was the Ancient city of Athens, when the Greeks established the FIRST Democracy. Throughout time many nations and groups and organizations have implemented this process. The Roman Republic is another example. As is pre-Shogunate Japan. then in 1787 the newly founded United States of America also applied this practice, in order to prevent one group from either gaining too much power or abusing its power. They setup 3 main branches of the government: The Judaical Branch, the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch. The 3 branches had to consult the others based on a strict order of Laws and guidelines. To put this in a simple context: If the Executive Branch wanted to pass a Law, it had to be approved by The Legislative Branch in a vote. Then it would be taken to the Judaical Branch to be approved as being "legal" or "Constitutional". In other words, if the Bill conflicted an already existing Law, it could not be passed. The same goes if the Legislative Branch voted on a Bill. they have to send it to the Judaical Branch FIRST. Then, if the Judaical Branch approved it, it is sent the the Executive Branch. The Executive can choose to allow it or to "kill" or "Veto" it. If the Branch does not agree. If at anytime the people of a nation are in severe disagreement with a member of a specific Branch(or on of the members of a Branch commited an infraction against the Laws)It is in the FULL right and POWER of the people to remove said person from power, position or state. In other words, We need a BETTER Organized, BETTER Communicating, BETTER Controlled Guild Staff!Also we need a CLEAR and DETAILED set of Rules. I would be willing to write the rules into a very clear and detailed manner if you would like. But READ this carefully. A clear rule list instead of a spread out thread yes. Possibly a hidden "keyword" within it (like "reply with "word" if you've read this") within the last couple of statements.) I have an example in my "rules" section of the RP I tried to start in the RP thread. That way, you can keep tabs on everyone who's read it more accurately. If they don't reply with that key word, they didn't read it. Having a poll up top does not ensure it, since many people just vote for the gold. However, the staff is well organized, they do communicate well, and they are not "out of control" like you're implying both here and in your CB thread on this matter. They don't go on banning sprees, if ever banning period, they don't lock or delete threads without both announcing it in forum upkeep and without reason. Off Topic threads are grounds for lock/deletion in any forum. This is also coming from someone who's been warned before. So I'm not saying this just because it hasn't applied to me. This is understand...but the fact remains...we as mere members need more say and influence! Read this: 1) The guild has a limited number of mods who are not responsive to many logical and fair suggestions(being online or not is not the issue) 2) The Guild has too few and poorly detailed rules to cover things like flaming, rating, and behavior. 3) While the Guild has been recently updated, it is not smoothly organized 4) Methods of obtaining promotions are completely unknown, though we hear about the people who are promoted, we have ZERO ability to affect it. 5) The method the Guild has of JUST giving warning after warning after warning...is NOT enough. The LAST is a serious issue I have yet to uncover an answer for. And I have COMBED all over the Guild. God only knows what goes on in the Mod Forum.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:12 pm
If all of you are blind to Democracy, your fools. I may be a Socialist, but I understand that a TRUE Social State has a Democratic rule. Most of you are kids, and since you show no interest in Politics, our futures are doomed.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:14 pm
I just wanna know what it takes to become a Crew...cause not knowing isnt fair.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:54 pm
Lucius Drosin I just wanna know what it takes to become a Crew...cause not knowing isnt fair. Pretty simple forumula. Be nice to everyone here, do a lot of helping out on your own without being asked, be a model forum member, and don't beg for it. People become mods through earning the title.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:07 pm
angelitaxdexmuerto Lucius Drosin I just wanna know what it takes to become a Crew...cause not knowing isnt fair. Pretty simple forumula. Be nice to everyone here, do a lot of helping out on your own without being asked, be a model forum member, and don't beg for it. People become mods through earning the title. WAAA! Thats too hard. razz
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:15 pm
Lord Izaran angelitaxdexmuerto Lord Izaran There appears to be an issue that I feel needs to be addressed. Every stable system of power has a series of operations often called a system of "Checks and Balances" The first system of rule to use this was the Ancient city of Athens, when the Greeks established the FIRST Democracy. Throughout time many nations and groups and organizations have implemented this process. The Roman Republic is another example. As is pre-Shogunate Japan. then in 1787 the newly founded United States of America also applied this practice, in order to prevent one group from either gaining too much power or abusing its power. They setup 3 main branches of the government: The Judaical Branch, the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch. The 3 branches had to consult the others based on a strict order of Laws and guidelines. To put this in a simple context: If the Executive Branch wanted to pass a Law, it had to be approved by The Legislative Branch in a vote. Then it would be taken to the Judaical Branch to be approved as being "legal" or "Constitutional". In other words, if the Bill conflicted an already existing Law, it could not be passed. The same goes if the Legislative Branch voted on a Bill. they have to send it to the Judaical Branch FIRST. Then, if the Judaical Branch approved it, it is sent the the Executive Branch. The Executive can choose to allow it or to "kill" or "Veto" it. If the Branch does not agree. If at anytime the people of a nation are in severe disagreement with a member of a specific Branch(or on of the members of a Branch commited an infraction against the Laws)It is in the FULL right and POWER of the people to remove said person from power, position or state. In other words, We need a BETTER Organized, BETTER Communicating, BETTER Controlled Guild Staff!Also we need a CLEAR and DETAILED set of Rules. I would be willing to write the rules into a very clear and detailed manner if you would like. But READ this carefully. A clear rule list instead of a spread out thread yes. Possibly a hidden "keyword" within it (like "reply with "word" if you've read this") within the last couple of statements.) I have an example in my "rules" section of the RP I tried to start in the RP thread. That way, you can keep tabs on everyone who's read it more accurately. If they don't reply with that key word, they didn't read it. Having a poll up top does not ensure it, since many people just vote for the gold. However, the staff is well organized, they do communicate well, and they are not "out of control" like you're implying both here and in your CB thread on this matter. They don't go on banning sprees, if ever banning period, they don't lock or delete threads without both announcing it in forum upkeep and without reason. Off Topic threads are grounds for lock/deletion in any forum. This is also coming from someone who's been warned before. So I'm not saying this just because it hasn't applied to me. This is understand...but the fact remains...we as mere members need more say and influence! Read this: 1) The guild has a limited number of mods who are not responsive to many logical and fair suggestions(being online or not is not the issue) 2) The Guild has too few and poorly detailed rules to cover things like flaming, rating, and behavior. 3) While the Guild has been recently updated, it is not smoothly organized 4) Methods of obtaining promotions are completely unknown, though we hear about the people who are promoted, we have ZERO ability to affect it. 5) The method the Guild has of JUST giving warning after warning after warning...is NOT enough. The LAST is a serious issue I have yet to uncover an answer for. And I have COMBED all over the Guild. God only knows what goes on in the Mod Forum.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:17 pm
Quenthal Lord Izaran angelitaxdexmuerto Lord Izaran There appears to be an issue that I feel needs to be addressed. Every stable system of power has a series of operations often called a system of "Checks and Balances" The first system of rule to use this was the Ancient city of Athens, when the Greeks established the FIRST Democracy. Throughout time many nations and groups and organizations have implemented this process. The Roman Republic is another example. As is pre-Shogunate Japan. then in 1787 the newly founded United States of America also applied this practice, in order to prevent one group from either gaining too much power or abusing its power. They setup 3 main branches of the government: The Judaical Branch, the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch. The 3 branches had to consult the others based on a strict order of Laws and guidelines. To put this in a simple context: If the Executive Branch wanted to pass a Law, it had to be approved by The Legislative Branch in a vote. Then it would be taken to the Judaical Branch to be approved as being "legal" or "Constitutional". In other words, if the Bill conflicted an already existing Law, it could not be passed. The same goes if the Legislative Branch voted on a Bill. they have to send it to the Judaical Branch FIRST. Then, if the Judaical Branch approved it, it is sent the the Executive Branch. The Executive can choose to allow it or to "kill" or "Veto" it. If the Branch does not agree. If at anytime the people of a nation are in severe disagreement with a member of a specific Branch(or on of the members of a Branch commited an infraction against the Laws)It is in the FULL right and POWER of the people to remove said person from power, position or state. In other words, We need a BETTER Organized, BETTER Communicating, BETTER Controlled Guild Staff!Also we need a CLEAR and DETAILED set of Rules. I would be willing to write the rules into a very clear and detailed manner if you would like. But READ this carefully. A clear rule list instead of a spread out thread yes. Possibly a hidden "keyword" within it (like "reply with "word" if you've read this") within the last couple of statements.) I have an example in my "rules" section of the RP I tried to start in the RP thread. That way, you can keep tabs on everyone who's read it more accurately. If they don't reply with that key word, they didn't read it. Having a poll up top does not ensure it, since many people just vote for the gold. However, the staff is well organized, they do communicate well, and they are not "out of control" like you're implying both here and in your CB thread on this matter. They don't go on banning sprees, if ever banning period, they don't lock or delete threads without both announcing it in forum upkeep and without reason. Off Topic threads are grounds for lock/deletion in any forum. This is also coming from someone who's been warned before. So I'm not saying this just because it hasn't applied to me. This is understand...but the fact remains...we as mere members need more say and influence! Read this: 1) The guild has a limited number of mods who are not responsive to many logical and fair suggestions(being online or not is not the issue) 2) The Guild has too few and poorly detailed rules to cover things like flaming, rating, and behavior. 3) While the Guild has been recently updated, it is not smoothly organized 4) Methods of obtaining promotions are completely unknown, though we hear about the people who are promoted, we have ZERO ability to affect it. 5) The method the Guild has of JUST giving warning after warning after warning...is NOT enough. The LAST is a serious issue I have yet to uncover an answer for. And I have COMBED all over the Guild. God only knows what goes on in the Mod Forum. Sorry to burst on everyone, but he kinda left. And I don't agree. Somethings are better left as is.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:24 pm
Lucius Drosin Quenthal Lord Izaran angelitaxdexmuerto Lord Izaran There appears to be an issue that I feel needs to be addressed. Every stable system of power has a series of operations often called a system of "Checks and Balances" The first system of rule to use this was the Ancient city of Athens, when the Greeks established the FIRST Democracy. Throughout time many nations and groups and organizations have implemented this process. The Roman Republic is another example. As is pre-Shogunate Japan. then in 1787 the newly founded United States of America also applied this practice, in order to prevent one group from either gaining too much power or abusing its power. They setup 3 main branches of the government: The Judaical Branch, the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch. The 3 branches had to consult the others based on a strict order of Laws and guidelines. To put this in a simple context: If the Executive Branch wanted to pass a Law, it had to be approved by The Legislative Branch in a vote. Then it would be taken to the Judaical Branch to be approved as being "legal" or "Constitutional". In other words, if the Bill conflicted an already existing Law, it could not be passed. The same goes if the Legislative Branch voted on a Bill. they have to send it to the Judaical Branch FIRST. Then, if the Judaical Branch approved it, it is sent the the Executive Branch. The Executive can choose to allow it or to "kill" or "Veto" it. If the Branch does not agree. If at anytime the people of a nation are in severe disagreement with a member of a specific Branch(or on of the members of a Branch commited an infraction against the Laws)It is in the FULL right and POWER of the people to remove said person from power, position or state. In other words, We need a BETTER Organized, BETTER Communicating, BETTER Controlled Guild Staff!Also we need a CLEAR and DETAILED set of Rules. I would be willing to write the rules into a very clear and detailed manner if you would like. But READ this carefully. A clear rule list instead of a spread out thread yes. Possibly a hidden "keyword" within it (like "reply with "word" if you've read this") within the last couple of statements.) I have an example in my "rules" section of the RP I tried to start in the RP thread. That way, you can keep tabs on everyone who's read it more accurately. If they don't reply with that key word, they didn't read it. Having a poll up top does not ensure it, since many people just vote for the gold. However, the staff is well organized, they do communicate well, and they are not "out of control" like you're implying both here and in your CB thread on this matter. They don't go on banning sprees, if ever banning period, they don't lock or delete threads without both announcing it in forum upkeep and without reason. Off Topic threads are grounds for lock/deletion in any forum. This is also coming from someone who's been warned before. So I'm not saying this just because it hasn't applied to me. This is understand...but the fact remains...we as mere members need more say and influence! Read this: 1) The guild has a limited number of mods who are not responsive to many logical and fair suggestions(being online or not is not the issue) 2) The Guild has too few and poorly detailed rules to cover things like flaming, rating, and behavior. 3) While the Guild has been recently updated, it is not smoothly organized 4) Methods of obtaining promotions are completely unknown, though we hear about the people who are promoted, we have ZERO ability to affect it. 5) The method the Guild has of JUST giving warning after warning after warning...is NOT enough. The LAST is a serious issue I have yet to uncover an answer for. And I have COMBED all over the Guild. God only knows what goes on in the Mod Forum. Sorry to burst on everyone, but he kinda left. And I don't agree. Somethings are better left as is. The only thing I agree with is straightening and cleaning out the rules a bit (then again I'm totally a**l-retentive and like things orderly). Also with my little keyword suggestion since people pretty obviously aren't reading them.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:19 am
Sorry, but yeah, this forum does need a Reformation if threads bitching about treatment are being created by members who've put there time in. As I've pointed out in the other thread, an establish set of rules locked and sticky need to be created. These rules do not have to be all tightwadish, but seriously, a little order might make this community slightly entertaining. I believe Mods need to really step it up a bit and stop being friends and start moderating some of these folks. Yeah, I know we are RPing drows and s**t, but hell, even drows have a system of order they like to follow other than the whole Sadio-Masochist bullshit. I mean, don't get me wrong, some folks are doing their thing and yadda yadda yadda greatly, but yeah...when I look into a topic, it seems to stray off topic at least three posts minimum.
As for the rules, they don't even need a keyword as long as it is one post, stickied to remain on top, and locked so no one can post "hijinks" in it, and it says in capital letters "RULES AND BEHAVIOR WITHIN THIS GUILD". Though even if you do have the rules, enforcing them is gonna be another biggie. My suggestion, three strike rule. Each strike comes with a warning, reason for warning, suggestion, and finally a reminder of the consequences for continuing to fail to read the rules. After third, temp ban, no arguments, except for a PM sent to them as to why they were resulted in a ban and a reference to their past offenses that lead to their temp ban. The term of ban I leave up to the mods to decide. Notice though it is a temporary ban. I believe Perma. bans are only for offenses that are strictly breaking TOS or those who get three temp. bans.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm getting to enjoy plenty of the lulz being created from the flamers and trolls and the folks posting how upset they are about this. So either way this goes, I win smile Seriously, either side has my empathy for it is through disorder that chaos is sprung in which only the strongest survive and all that great mumbo jumbo.
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