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 Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:04 am
Everyone makes stuff up. ESPECIALLY Cleris and Cloti fans, I see people bull s**t constantly in the forum and I've only read half of them. Its not about lying out right, its about bending the truth to fit your likening, the problem is you take the same scene and Cleris Fans bend it one way and Cloti fans bend it the other so both accuse each other of lying.
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:51 am
 Well, I'd argue that not everyone bends everything. A perfect example is the Highwind scene. There are romantic implications, a romantic line about intimacy, and the screen goes to black. To me, intimacy is implied and the simplist answer considering how happy Tifa is afterwards.
Yet you can twist it around to say that Cloud actually rejects her off screen and yet even though she's been rejected, she's still extremely happy about the moment together.
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:24 pm
A really weird twist.....there's no evidence to him rejecting her and there's also evidence to go against that too, haha. But bending comes in a desperate attempt to downplay a significant point and I see it mostly in Cleris fans who tend to come up with romantic versions of each scene. As Kurai's and her friend's statistics say, there is a larger rabid Cleris population.
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:38 pm
I know, eh? Even the Reunion files say: Quote: Nomura spoke in reference to a defining moment near the end of FF7. During an intimate moment, Tifa tells Cloud that "feelings aren't conveyed by words alone." Players are lead to their own conclusions, as they watch Cloud and Tifa wake up together the next morning. A defining moment. An intimate moment. And players are lead to their own conclusions as they wake up the next morning. I really don't know how they are suppose to make it any more clear that something intimate occurs. Your own conclusions are suppose to be about what they did specifically, whether you think it was sex, kissing, cuddling, ect. We are suppose to make conclusions as to what happens behind the black screen, and nothing doesn't really make sense. XP If it was nothing, you wouldn't be, "lead to [your] own conclusions". Nothing means that you don't think Tifa's line hints at anything, therefore it wouldn't lead you to any conclusions by it. Nothing isn't a conclusion, it's the absence of one in this case. XP
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:24 pm
And Ryu also quoted somewhere from an interview that the dialog itself is risque. Also, the original scene had them imply that they had sex so to downplay it, they blacked out the screen itself. Basically, it can be implied that they had sex, lol. xd
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:45 pm
Yes, that's the other proof I'd use if the reunion files didn't work. The interview has him state that the dialogue, specifically Tifa saying her famous line about words, was risque. Then he goes on to say how the original scene was suppose to be Cloud coming out of a chocobo stable, and Tifa coming out shortly after. They decided to tone it down. So how can you claim that the scene wasn't meant to imply sexual intimacy if the original intent was for it to be more "in your face"? They don't say, "But we remembered Cloud loves Aeris and he'd never have sex with Tifa so we changed the scene completely." XP
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:07 am
Haha, definitely. Speaking of original scenes and such, Cleris fans like to use the original concept before Nomura came in as their proof to Cleris. Cloud and Aeris were originally the main couple and had Barret as a comrade.
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:53 am
Ya, it's funny because Aeris was also suppose to be the childhood friend. Sound familiar? XP That kind of original concept has nothing to do with the LTD because it was before Tifa was decided upon to take Aeris' place.
The claim I'm making is that after they had both characters created, and got to the Highwind part, their intentions were to have Cloud and Tifa have a sexual scene. So, even if you want to decide that they don't even kiss when the screen goes to black, the fact of the matter is it's the best proof that Cloud and Tifa are the intended couple. It absolutely makes zero sense if Cloud and Aeris were always this intended couple from before Tifa. XP
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:39 pm
Exactly. If Cleris was the intended couple, then they would've made it more apparent instead of strengthening the relationship between Tifa and Cloud after Aeris' death. They still argue that it's plausible for Aeris and Cloud to be the intended couple and bring in some claims that Kitase or whoever supports Cleris.
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