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First of all, I do know what a primary source is. Second of all thank you for pointing out the context so I can prove you wrong.

Here is the english dialogue again, just for reference.



Ok now let's recall what happened before this dialogue. You defeat Sephiroth blah blah and then Cloud replies, “....Lifestream?” Then you see Cloud reach for Aerith's hand as the light beam shines down on him and then Aerith reaches back. Right before there hands meet Cloud is brought back to reality and goes and rescues Tifa. Cloud grabs the ledge of the Cliff and brings them to safety. It is at this moment that this dialogue begins.

Now let's not even talk about Japanese just yet. If you take into consideration all the previous events, "I think I can meet her there" makes complete sense. Since Cloud just tried to reunite with Aerith and he speaks of the promised land, it's obvious that he is taking about meeting Aerith. Saying that "I can meet *someone* there" is completely false and out of the context. How obvious can you get? "An answer from the planet" who else could actually speak with the planet? Zack? Tifa? Marlene? CID?! Come on. You dont need a HER in the sentence to obviously know what the line means. Maybe if you are legally blind, that would make sense too. : D

If you still think you can get away with saying it's a mistranslation let's talk about the good ol' language Nihongo.



It's fun how you claim to know so much about Japanese but you dont even realize that there is no 'C' in the Japanese language! rofl I think you mean Soko de. Soko is one word and de is a particle, the least you could do is seperate the two. Unless you have a broken space bar or something. : ] But anyways on to the seriousness...No wait! xD I realized something else, that you seem to be a hypocrite.

It's funny how you say that there is no 'HER' in the sentence but there is also no "I" in the sentence either! So the literal translation is '__ think meet with ___ there" Using your LOGIX that must mean that Cloud is not talking about himself either! He just seems to be babbling some nonsense!

If you ACTUALLY knew something about the Japanese language you would know that you dont need to say "I" or "you" or "she/he" for it to be understood that you are talking about someone. Let me give you a VERY SIMPLE sentence so you can understand.

"watashi ha sakana wo tabemashita."
That means I ate fish. (literally: I fish ate)

But the more common sentence would be
"sakana wo tabemashita"
That ALSO means I ate fish although there is no 'I' in the sentence. It is understood that you are talking about yourself unless stated otherwise through context.

Here is another sentence. But I'll drop the word "YOU" instead.

"Anata ha nani iro ga ichiban suki desuka."
That means 'What is your favorite color?' (Literally: Your what color numberone like xD wink

But more commonly it would be
"nani iro ga ichiban suki desuka."
That ALSO means What is YOUR favorite color, even though there is no YOU in the sentence.


Still not convinced?
Let's go back to the dialogue again.

"Soko de Aeru TO omounda
Time to focus on the 'TO' now. To is pronouced as 'toe' btw. : ] To is a particle, that can be used for many different purposes. In this case it is hooked up to the word 'aeru' meet, and 'omou' think. 'To' implies that you are doing an action "WITH SOMEONE OR SOMETHING". So the dialgue is saying to meet WITH SOMEONE. You dont need a her to know who you are talking about.
Let me give you a SIMPLE example for all the feeble minds out there.

"Tomodachi TO denwa de hanashitai"
That means I want to talk WITH my friend on the phone. To implies that the action is hooked to SOMEONE OR SOMETHING.

END OF DISCUSSION.
And this is why I've had an A in Japanese for the past 3 years! I hope I made my sensei proud! mad

Cloud, zoned out in the lifestream, is led back into his body by Aerith, to Tifa, yes.



Yes. If we're just considering the english as immutable, it makes sense to refer to Aerith. But romantic it is not. It does not fit the context of his words, the lingering question of the answer of the planet, or his actions immediately thereafter. Granted, the Japanese, again, contains no specific object of the sentence, and Dismantling says the object is "friends, plural". My old copypasta data predates me locating the scan of Dismantling, and I made zero changes to it since I wrote it around three or so years ago. With the inclusion of Dismantling, I'd say it refers to a "them", specifically, the fallen friends, note the plural.



The redundancy here is amusing. It's like saying English language language.



Wow, isn't THIS just special. Child, Co and Ko are both equally valid romanizations of the syllable. There is no C, but then again, there's no K, either. It's all just syllables. We use the letters and such for ease of comprehension. It makes no difference if I use Co or Ko because they SOUND THE EXACT SAME. As for de, I write it as attached to the word it modifies. So sue me. Again, romanization of the syllabary has no standard form, and to truly be a purist, I shouldn't have put any spaces in at all.



The use of Watashi/ Atashi/Boku/ Ore/ Fish sandwhich is not needed. If no other subject is declared, the speaker is presumed to be the subject of the verb, especially in the case of verbs like speaking and thinking. More on this later.



Technically speaking, you should romanize the ha there as a wa because that is how you can pronounce it in that circumstance. I wouldn't be such a pissant little nitpicker, but hey, you were first.



In short, your claims of hypocrisy are in fact, baseless libel.



And this is where your fail is EPIC. "to", when it precedes Omou, means that the preceding bit of language, in this case, aeru, is what the speaker THINKS. How did you get through three years of Japanese and not get through the "I/He Said/ Thinks" grammar? I mean, missing the use of to as a quotation marker is, well, it's mind boggling really. That's course one material.
Additionally, for someone accusing me of ignoring the context, well, isn't that egg on your face, eh?

If you hate egg, get it off your face. That and learn english. I'm not using hard words here, kiddo.



I never hid what I was saying. It's not my fault if you only have a rudimentary grasp of the english language. And please, don't attempt to paint this as simply my opinion. Because I can back up what I say with the original script and dismantling. To say nothing of the concepts of continuity of theme and the utter lack of Cloud showing romantic interest in Aerith any other time during the game.



Hi, baseless claim! Funny how no one has ever provided demographics for this sort of thing, and also funny how the Japanese use the term CloAer, not Clerith. And funny how straight up google searches show that CloAer is nearly an order of a magnitude less popular than Cloti when searching in Japanese on google. That last bit isn't definitive proof, but an interesting statistic nontheless.



As I said. Dismantling.
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3979/finalfantasyviiultimaniga0.jpg



Because she was leading him back to the real world. If you recognize Maiden, anyways. According to dismantling, it's just 'the hand' which resolves itself into Tifa's.



Yes. None of those people were in the active party, or were aiding the party beyond death. Continuity of themes, about characters the party gives two smegs about after all. Aerith has been helping the party with Holy, by keeping Tifa protected from lifestream poisoning til she made it inside Cloud's otherwise closed heart, now she's helping Cloud back to Tifa. Continuity of theme.



Everyone talked about the answer from the planet, actually. There was an entire scene with Bugenhagen just to hammer the idea into your face. Remember how it was lingering over their heads the entire second half of the game? Especially after Bugen said Humanity might be wiped out?
And cloud is not yearning. He's stating comprehension. It is Tifa who expressed desire. If you're shipping anyone based on that scene, ship TifAer.



Said a Cloud/ Aerith shipper. The irony is palpable.



Please, don't be so presumptuous. I'm neither 'pining', nor is your age relevant.



I've got a better claim on the title. For one, I exist.
Though this is an interesting correlation.


ADDENDUM: I notice you've not responded in the slightest to the linguistic argument. Concession by non-adress hereby accepted.

I don't think anyone here would claim anything. Pink gave up on you after all, haha.

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