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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:50 am
Azazel the harbinger -Kollusion Kitty- I see it as a overpowering thing. Someone being on the top and dominating the other, the other weak and defenceless. I agree with you. But I think if I find someone special enough, that I admire enough I will let them boss me around within reason. Take Thom for instance. I do whatever he practially tells me to do. But my own dad and family I don't listen to and I 'own' my brother. Am I on the same page a bit? That's just natural dominance n rebellion, could be considered a form of it. Same page I think so.
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:34 pm
9thcursedone I see fighting like this. The strong and able duke it out to see which one is stronger. Those who arent as strong use mind games to assert themselves over others. Everyone has their own way of fighting. I have two ways. When Im calm (Which I usually am) I hit nerves, taking my opponent down with quick and precise blows. But, when Im pissed off (which rarely happens) I fight like a berserker. okay, wow, so you have like a normal attitude response to situations and well an extreme part to a given situation but given under the circumstance that you are provoked of course. blaugh 3nodding hmm, I guess I'm a little simpler, considering I would rather escape unless I need to stay and handle the situation the best I can until I am left no choice.... yeah... sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:38 pm
But, say that you have no choice but to fight, how would you do it then?
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:16 pm
I would fight of course, but my methods would have to be decisive not shear brute force. buy myself some time, I'm not alone, I have friends. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:17 pm
9thcursedone But, say that you have no choice but to fight, how would you do it then? If you have no choice then duck, weave, block. Avoid being damaged and wait for your opponent to burn himself out. In the end the only reason i would strike someone is simply because my life was threatened and even then I would prefer a grapple. But as far as the concept of battle goes. The strong dominating the weak, and the smart dominating the unintelligent, I feel that the battle is a concept thought up to keep people down. That the weak should be dominated, and the strong should rule. In the long run it all breeds weakness in everyone. The strong are too weak to realize their own insecurities and need to seek strength. Whilst the weak are to weak to stand up to the strong there fore allowing themselves to be abused, or treated how they do not wish to be treated. The only way that we can truly raise ourselves to a higher level is through love. It's the only way to break the cycle and breed true strength. We must love one another man. Sorry if I'm ranting, but I hear stuff like this every day and dig talking about it, so I just wanted to throw all that out there.
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:42 pm
Sounds just like a hippie, except a hippie wants peace, and well no violence but eeh I respect those words yeah love. blaugh 3nodding
Though the only problem with that is that it's an extreme
no matter where you go, or what action you take, only a certain group will follow you because of the way society is: fear, terrorism, wanting to live , etc.
Also you can't solely focus on on ide/concept although that would be wonderful, it's just that, well, it also depends on where you grow up, who influences you and how you are raised.
but yeah...
A whole bunch of stuff from serious to silly things, but still I agree with what you have to say, but want to see this from both sides as well as take a look at all the possibilities and not to mention....
darn, I lost my words whee
well goes to show you people, I'm lost in my own mind. xd rofl
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:30 pm
Karushi El Pinko 9thcursedone But, say that you have no choice but to fight, how would you do it then? If you have no choice then duck, weave, block. Avoid being damaged and wait for your opponent to burn himself out. In the end the only reason i would strike someone is simply because my life was threatened and even then I would prefer a grapple. But as far as the concept of battle goes. The strong dominating the weak, and the smart dominating the unintelligent, I feel that the battle is a concept thought up to keep people down. That the weak should be dominated, and the strong should rule. In the long run it all breeds weakness in everyone. The strong are too weak to realize their own insecurities and need to seek strength. Whilst the weak are to weak to stand up to the strong there fore allowing themselves to be abused, or treated how they do not wish to be treated. The only way that we can truly raise ourselves to a higher level is through love. It's the only way to break the cycle and breed true strength. We must love one another man. Sorry if I'm ranting, but I hear stuff like this every day and dig talking about it, so I just wanted to throw all that out there. Your words are wise, but what about people like me? Those who defend the weak and help them find their strengths.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:36 pm
If I had no choice but to fight, girls would take a punch straight on the boys a punch below either sex would have my foot to their throat the second they fell. I've fought to an extent and found I can bend around and attack otherwise improvise if Im in a defenceless state and become the dominant.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:59 am
Thunderboltx Sounds just like a hippie, except a hippie wants peace, and well no violence but eeh I respect those words yeah love. blaugh 3nodding Though the only problem with that is that it's an extreme no matter where you go, or what action you take, only a certain group will follow you because of the way society is: fear, terrorism, wanting to live , etc. Also you can't solely focus on on ide/concept although that would be wonderful, it's just that, well, it also depends on where you grow up, who influences you and how you are raised. but yeah... A whole bunch of stuff from serious to silly things, but still I agree with what you have to say, but want to see this from both sides as well as take a look at all the possibilities and not to mention.... darn, I lost my words whee well goes to show you people, I'm lost in my own mind. xd rofl it's respectable to try and see all sides. I strive to do so as well, although I can often color what I see. I also see what you mean as far as location goes. I live in sacramento california so I suppose our life style is a bit more conducive to an attitude of love, or at least realxation . As opposed to a place like, lets say Iraq where life is a bit more hectic. I would assume, concidering the deterioration of order, there's a bit mroe need (strictly for survival purposes) of people to assert dominance. Mabey Iraq isn't a good example. But, the general idea still remains, and I see where your coming from. Quote: Your words are wise, but what about people like me? Those who defend the weak and help them find their strengths. Ah, now here's the crux. This reminds me of a scene from "The last temptation of Christ" starring Willem Dafore. I don't know if this is in the bible, but in the movie Judas is talking with Jesus about Judea. Juda wants a free Israel, one that isn't subjected to Roman rule. The means he suggests is violent uprising. To which Jesus remarks that this will not change the violent opression they're currently under, only the name by which it is instrumented. Rather than Roman opression, it will Israelite kings who opress the masses. Jesus' only solution is to first purge the poison that is in mans soul (violence so to speak). I hold a similar belief to this. Rather than fighting, and teaching others to stand up in this way, we must instil upon others the concept love. Then just do the best you can to spread love and the rest will follow. And teach by example (which I must say is the hardest thing). Defence of the body is wonderful, but healing of the soul is the only thing that will save us. As for what about you and your need to defend the weak, try finding a means of defence that doesn't involve violence. Try using words first and formost. p.s. I don't wish to leave the impression that I'm a christian, or a fanatical christian for that matter. I like to concider my self more of a pantheist. But I do belive that the life of christ is a great example for people to live by. And even though I'm not a christian, I like to think I try to be like christ. WIth the exceptions that I like wine, tobacco, and various other forms of merriment you never hear of jesus enjoying.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:46 pm
You know, nowadays you don't find many who prefer not to fight, but I have to see both sides, well, I may sometimes lean a little more, but I say it's because we are all tainted, again, depends on where you live, but I agree, and don't worry, I can't hate you for religion race, or ethnicity or any of that sort because well....I'm not a ***cist and um any of those ranging words. Yeah, but then again, live by a code, a good code, and um, well so long as you don't hurt others, if they urt you first and continue again and wont follow your way no matter how much you try, don't hold back I guess, cause like um, hate to use this example, but a bit of history: U.S did not want to get involved in WW2, and then Japan bombed peral harbor, then all us Americans: " they bombed our place, lets get them, yeah" national unity. xd rofl 3nodding but yeah, or something else, but no more examples, I can't just use us, but yeah, just um, I guess it depends on the endless possibilities of who you encounter, what they accuse you of, and how they carry out their actions towards you and so much more. ^^ blaugh still I would say, I follow, moderate, a bit to the left, and a bit to the right, fight, and no fight, but keep them like a double edged sword. ^^ blaugh
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:46 am
Thunderboltx You know, nowadays you don't find many who prefer not to fight, but I have to see both sides, well, I may sometimes lean a little more, but I say it's because we are all tainted, again, depends on where you live, but I agree, and don't worry, I can't hate you for religion race, or ethnicity or any of that sort because well....I'm not a ***cist and um any of those ranging words. Yeah, but then again, live by a code, a good code, and um, well so long as you don't hurt others, if they urt you first and continue again and wont follow your way no matter how much you try, don't hold back I guess, cause like um, hate to use this example, but a bit of history: U.S did not want to get involved in WW2, and then Japan bombed peral harbor, then all us Americans: " they bombed our place, lets get them, yeah" national unity. xd rofl 3nodding but yeah, or something else, but no more examples, I can't just use us, but yeah, just um, I guess it depends on the endless possibilities of who you encounter, what they accuse you of, and how they carry out their actions towards you and so much more. ^^ blaugh still I would say, I follow, moderate, a bit to the left, and a bit to the right, fight, and no fight, but keep them like a double edged sword. ^^ blaugh moderation is good as well. I find it hard to find people who truely are moderate. They either say they're to the right or left when most are somewhere in the middle. All good points everyone.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:06 pm
Thank you again Karushi, may the spirits and um, followers of goodness always be with you. whee
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