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Daxelman
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:15 pm


tangocat777
Daxelman

God I love going to a getto school.

All we talk about is the Boondocks and ******** Awesome.
Oh, really? I think I saw your teacher do a science experiment on Youtube, Dax.



That b***h was black, and lived in ATL.

My teacher is White, and she's an IPC teacher, which apparently get paid more for less lessons on the same subjects.
Also, my teacher is a nerd.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:31 pm


Part-Time Viking
Zombicide
No, actually, it's a term to describe the ever-diminishing American pop-culture. Notice how about 10 years ago, no one was THIS obsessed with anime and all things Japanese? (other than certain games, that were imported from Japan, dubbed, then mass-produced and sold in America as well) Now, every bit of pop-culture you see is from Japan. Am I the only one who notices this? And it's taking over not only our movies, books, and TV shows, but gaming as well. Thus, a new kind of overly-biased fanboy/fangirl is developing that will be the most annoying ever. America is going through just another pop-culture phase, similar to its rebellion phase in the 70's and its rock/metal obsession in the 80's.
Uh... Since when has J-trash had a definition? I've always used it as just general crap that Japan spews out that the Naruto headband-wearing fruitbuckets of America fap too...

It disgusts me though, I'm amazed that I stomached buying a PS3 since I've seem to have developed "racist" disdain towards anything that comes from Japan... Althought, Sony and Nintendo despite having roots in Japan seem to have taken hold of good ol' American capitalism and ran with it to a point of being just as American as they are Japanese.

But I have a general hate for most things Japanese... Save for the food and certain electronics. Go ahead, call me racist.


I never knew you had strong opinions about this sort of thing. I guess we learn something new everyday huh? Don't worry I won't call you racist. There would be no point in it really. 3nodding

HistoryWak
Crew


Part-Time Viking

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:47 pm


HistoryWak
Part-Time Viking
Zombicide
No, actually, it's a term to describe the ever-diminishing American pop-culture. Notice how about 10 years ago, no one was THIS obsessed with anime and all things Japanese? (other than certain games, that were imported from Japan, dubbed, then mass-produced and sold in America as well) Now, every bit of pop-culture you see is from Japan. Am I the only one who notices this? And it's taking over not only our movies, books, and TV shows, but gaming as well. Thus, a new kind of overly-biased fanboy/fangirl is developing that will be the most annoying ever. America is going through just another pop-culture phase, similar to its rebellion phase in the 70's and its rock/metal obsession in the 80's.
Uh... Since when has J-trash had a definition? I've always used it as just general crap that Japan spews out that the Naruto headband-wearing fruitbuckets of America fap too...

It disgusts me though, I'm amazed that I stomached buying a PS3 since I've seem to have developed "racist" disdain towards anything that comes from Japan... Althought, Sony and Nintendo despite having roots in Japan seem to have taken hold of good ol' American capitalism and ran with it to a point of being just as American as they are Japanese.

But I have a general hate for most things Japanese... Save for the food and certain electronics. Go ahead, call me racist.


I never knew you had strong opinions about this sort of thing. I guess we learn something new everyday huh? Don't worry I won't call you racist. There would be no point in it really. 3nodding
Meh, Racism isn't bad till it inhibits how you act towards another or if you inhibit another because of it. I'm not about to run around and shoot the Japanese, I just hate their s**t.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:03 am


@Wak -


Thanks for responding. Final Fantasy is a good RPG franchise. If it was "J-trash" or "Horrible", it would have died out.... but FF has been making games steadily since 1987.... a whole 20 years, 20+ if you count the FF games coming out later next year.

Its not like FF is like Halo, an okay game that was immensely overrated enough to spawn 2 sequels and a spin off (Halo Wars, or whatever the ******** its called). No matter how overrated, hype can not carry a series for 20+ years.

@Zombicide and Viking - Calling FF J-trash is really downgrading the franchise, and saying its only popular because it comes from Japan is a cop out and downgrades everything FF did for the RPG genre. Ever think of the people like me, who was a FF fan for about 9 or 10 years before I even knew FF came from Japan? The vast majority of people play FF because its a good example of what RPG fans want in an RPG.... not because of what country it came from.

Fanwhores do not represent the majority. I am sure there is people who are like "OMG11 1ANYMAYE AND FF R MY FAVORTZ THINGZ IN JAPAN111" but if you think about it, anime only became mainstream in America in the mid-late 90s... FF had about 8 games released in North America by then.

Transatlantic Ace

Shy Genius


HistoryWak
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:35 am


Ace Paladin
@Wak -


Thanks for responding. Final Fantasy is a good RPG franchise. If it was "J-trash" or "Horrible", it would have died out.... but FF has been making games steadily since 1987.... a whole 20 years, 20+ if you count the FF games coming out later next year.

Its not like FF is like Halo, an okay game that was immensely overrated enough to spawn 2 sequels and a spin off (Halo Wars, or whatever the ******** its called). No matter how overrated, hype can not carry a series for 20+ years.

@Zombicide and Viking - Calling FF J-trash is really downgrading the franchise, and saying its only popular because it comes from Japan is a cop out and downgrades everything FF did for the RPG genre. Ever think of the people like me, who was a FF fan for about 9 or 10 years before I even knew FF came from Japan? The vast majority of people play FF because its a good example of what RPG fans want in an RPG.... not because of what country it came from.

Fanwhores do not represent the majority. I am sure there is people who are like "OMG11 1ANYMAYE AND FF R MY FAVORTZ THINGZ IN JAPAN111" but if you think about it, anime only became mainstream in America in the mid-late 90s... FF had about 8 games released in North America by then.


You're Welcome. It was hard to approach from a non-fan's point of view but I did the best I can. 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:38 am


HistoryWak
Ace Paladin
@Wak -


Thanks for responding. Final Fantasy is a good RPG franchise. If it was "J-trash" or "Horrible", it would have died out.... but FF has been making games steadily since 1987.... a whole 20 years, 20+ if you count the FF games coming out later next year.

Its not like FF is like Halo, an okay game that was immensely overrated enough to spawn 2 sequels and a spin off (Halo Wars, or whatever the ******** its called). No matter how overrated, hype can not carry a series for 20+ years.

@Zombicide and Viking - Calling FF J-trash is really downgrading the franchise, and saying its only popular because it comes from Japan is a cop out and downgrades everything FF did for the RPG genre. Ever think of the people like me, who was a FF fan for about 9 or 10 years before I even knew FF came from Japan? The vast majority of people play FF because its a good example of what RPG fans want in an RPG.... not because of what country it came from.

Fanwhores do not represent the majority. I am sure there is people who are like "OMG11 1ANYMAYE AND FF R MY FAVORTZ THINGZ IN JAPAN111" but if you think about it, anime only became mainstream in America in the mid-late 90s... FF had about 8 games released in North America by then.


You're Welcome. It was hard to approach from a non-fan's point of view but I did the best I can. 3nodding


Ace makes some good points here. Final Fantasy sold well enough in the States for them to keep releasing titles here, despite that there was no real Japanese presence here until years later. I understand about attributing mass popularity of FF nowadays to an underlying obsession with Japanese media in today's youth. I can see where you guys are coming from with that. However, I think it's unreasonable to attribute all of the series' success to this phenomenon.

Arvis_Jaggamar
Crew


HistoryWak
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:15 pm


Arvis_Jaggamar
HistoryWak
Ace Paladin
@Wak -


Thanks for responding. Final Fantasy is a good RPG franchise. If it was "J-trash" or "Horrible", it would have died out.... but FF has been making games steadily since 1987.... a whole 20 years, 20+ if you count the FF games coming out later next year.

Its not like FF is like Halo, an okay game that was immensely overrated enough to spawn 2 sequels and a spin off (Halo Wars, or whatever the ******** its called). No matter how overrated, hype can not carry a series for 20+ years.

@Zombicide and Viking - Calling FF J-trash is really downgrading the franchise, and saying its only popular because it comes from Japan is a cop out and downgrades everything FF did for the RPG genre. Ever think of the people like me, who was a FF fan for about 9 or 10 years before I even knew FF came from Japan? The vast majority of people play FF because its a good example of what RPG fans want in an RPG.... not because of what country it came from.

Fanwhores do not represent the majority. I am sure there is people who are like "OMG11 1ANYMAYE AND FF R MY FAVORTZ THINGZ IN JAPAN111" but if you think about it, anime only became mainstream in America in the mid-late 90s... FF had about 8 games released in North America by then.


You're Welcome. It was hard to approach from a non-fan's point of view but I did the best I can. 3nodding


Ace makes some good points here. Final Fantasy sold well enough in the States for them to keep releasing titles here, despite that there was no real Japanese presence here until years later. I understand about attributing mass popularity of FF nowadays to an underlying obsession with Japanese media in today's youth. I can see where you guys are coming from with that. However, I think it's unreasonable to attribute all of the series' success to this phenomenon.


I agree 100%.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:19 pm


Part-Time Viking
HistoryWak
Part-Time Viking
Zombicide
No, actually, it's a term to describe the ever-diminishing American pop-culture. Notice how about 10 years ago, no one was THIS obsessed with anime and all things Japanese? (other than certain games, that were imported from Japan, dubbed, then mass-produced and sold in America as well) Now, every bit of pop-culture you see is from Japan. Am I the only one who notices this? And it's taking over not only our movies, books, and TV shows, but gaming as well. Thus, a new kind of overly-biased fanboy/fangirl is developing that will be the most annoying ever. America is going through just another pop-culture phase, similar to its rebellion phase in the 70's and its rock/metal obsession in the 80's.
Uh... Since when has J-trash had a definition? I've always used it as just general crap that Japan spews out that the Naruto headband-wearing fruitbuckets of America fap too...

It disgusts me though, I'm amazed that I stomached buying a PS3 since I've seem to have developed "racist" disdain towards anything that comes from Japan... Althought, Sony and Nintendo despite having roots in Japan seem to have taken hold of good ol' American capitalism and ran with it to a point of being just as American as they are Japanese.

But I have a general hate for most things Japanese... Save for the food and certain electronics. Go ahead, call me racist.


I never knew you had strong opinions about this sort of thing. I guess we learn something new everyday huh? Don't worry I won't call you racist. There would be no point in it really. 3nodding
Meh, Racism isn't bad till it inhibits how you act towards another or if you inhibit another because of it. I'm not about to run around and shoot the Japanese, I just hate their s**t.


I understand. 3nodding

But isn't Sony headquartered in Japan? wink

or is than an exception.. lol

HistoryWak
Crew


Solus Canis Lupus
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:23 pm


HistoryWak
Arvis_Jaggamar
HistoryWak
Ace Paladin
@Wak -


Thanks for responding. Final Fantasy is a good RPG franchise. If it was "J-trash" or "Horrible", it would have died out.... but FF has been making games steadily since 1987.... a whole 20 years, 20+ if you count the FF games coming out later next year.

Its not like FF is like Halo, an okay game that was immensely overrated enough to spawn 2 sequels and a spin off (Halo Wars, or whatever the ******** its called). No matter how overrated, hype can not carry a series for 20+ years.

@Zombicide and Viking - Calling FF J-trash is really downgrading the franchise, and saying its only popular because it comes from Japan is a cop out and downgrades everything FF did for the RPG genre. Ever think of the people like me, who was a FF fan for about 9 or 10 years before I even knew FF came from Japan? The vast majority of people play FF because its a good example of what RPG fans want in an RPG.... not because of what country it came from.

Fanwhores do not represent the majority. I am sure there is people who are like "OMG11 1ANYMAYE AND FF R MY FAVORTZ THINGZ IN JAPAN111" but if you think about it, anime only became mainstream in America in the mid-late 90s... FF had about 8 games released in North America by then.


You're Welcome. It was hard to approach from a non-fan's point of view but I did the best I can. 3nodding


Ace makes some good points here. Final Fantasy sold well enough in the States for them to keep releasing titles here, despite that there was no real Japanese presence here until years later. I understand about attributing mass popularity of FF nowadays to an underlying obsession with Japanese media in today's youth. I can see where you guys are coming from with that. However, I think it's unreasonable to attribute all of the series' success to this phenomenon.


I agree 100%.
I wanna find something I've wanted all along....


Yeah...and if the whole Japanese-craze contributed to the popularity at all, it was probably very little. Like I said, people obsessed with the Japanese culture here in the U.S. can't be more than like 20%. Maybe a lot in mainstream cities like New York(which is huge anyway, can't really count that for the majority of cities in the country), but out of the three states I've lived in those people are still well in the minority.

I'm a part of that group that loves a lot of Japanese-culture(not like the FF fanboy stereo-type though, just stuff I like), and while this area is the most friends I've ever had, it's still like a penny to the dollar. It's not like it's taken over, just the number of people that like that kind of stuff is increasing.

....Somewhere I belong
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:51 pm


Part-Time Viking
Zombicide
No, actually, it's a term to describe the ever-diminishing American pop-culture. Notice how about 10 years ago, no one was THIS obsessed with anime and all things Japanese? (other than certain games, that were imported from Japan, dubbed, then mass-produced and sold in America as well) Now, every bit of pop-culture you see is from Japan. Am I the only one who notices this? And it's taking over not only our movies, books, and TV shows, but gaming as well. Thus, a new kind of overly-biased fanboy/fangirl is developing that will be the most annoying ever. America is going through just another pop-culture phase, similar to its rebellion phase in the 70's and its rock/metal obsession in the 80's.
Uh... Since when has J-trash had a definition? I've always used it as just general crap that Japan spews out that the Naruto headband-wearing fruitbuckets of America fap too...

It disgusts me though, I'm amazed that I stomached buying a PS3 since I've seem to have developed "racist" disdain towards anything that comes from Japan... Althought, Sony and Nintendo despite having roots in Japan seem to have taken hold of good ol' American capitalism and ran with it to a point of being just as American as they are Japanese.

But I have a general hate for most things Japanese... Save for the food and certain electronics. Go ahead, call me racist.

I have similar disdain for those products too, but it isn't racism. If anything, the J-trashers are more racist than we are. They stereotype Japan by believing it to be a land full of anime, manga, porn, and other things that it really isn't. Japanese people are normal too, and just like how we have an obsession with their culture, they actually like our culture too. I have similar feelings of disdain, but it isn't racism, it's just that when we see kids and others believe these stereotypes and literally poison our minds with them, some people will start to be immediately hard-wired to hate this stupidity and stereotypical feelings surrounding Japan. We take Japan and its people for what they are (actual, normal people) not what others take them for (anime/manga-spewing, perverted, utopian society-ish freaks). I mean, just take a nice good look at how people see Japan. Which one sounds more like this new pop-culture phase America is going through? The first one, or the latter?

Zombicide


HistoryWak
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:56 pm


Zombicide
Part-Time Viking
Zombicide
No, actually, it's a term to describe the ever-diminishing American pop-culture. Notice how about 10 years ago, no one was THIS obsessed with anime and all things Japanese? (other than certain games, that were imported from Japan, dubbed, then mass-produced and sold in America as well) Now, every bit of pop-culture you see is from Japan. Am I the only one who notices this? And it's taking over not only our movies, books, and TV shows, but gaming as well. Thus, a new kind of overly-biased fanboy/fangirl is developing that will be the most annoying ever. America is going through just another pop-culture phase, similar to its rebellion phase in the 70's and its rock/metal obsession in the 80's.
Uh... Since when has J-trash had a definition? I've always used it as just general crap that Japan spews out that the Naruto headband-wearing fruitbuckets of America fap too...

It disgusts me though, I'm amazed that I stomached buying a PS3 since I've seem to have developed "racist" disdain towards anything that comes from Japan... Althought, Sony and Nintendo despite having roots in Japan seem to have taken hold of good ol' American capitalism and ran with it to a point of being just as American as they are Japanese.

But I have a general hate for most things Japanese... Save for the food and certain electronics. Go ahead, call me racist.

I have similar disdain for those products too, but it isn't racism. If anything, the J-trashers are more racist than we are. They stereotype Japan by believing it to be a land full of anime, manga, porn, and other things that it really isn't. Japanese people are normal too, and just like how we have an obsession with their culture, they actually like our culture too. I have similar feelings of disdain, but it isn't racism, it's just that when we see kids and others believe these stereotypes and literally poison our minds with them, some people will start to be immediately hard-wired to hate this stupidity and stereotypical feelings surrounding Japan. We take Japan and its people for what they are (actual, normal people) not what others take them for (anime/manga-spewing, perverted, utopian society-ish freaks). I mean, just take a nice good look at how people see Japan. Which one sounds more like this new pop-culture phase America is going through? The first one, or the latter?


I wonder how they perceive us? lol
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:00 pm


They like our style, and have adopted some of our clothing into their styles. But, if I was a regular Japanese citizen, I'd be pretty pissed off at America, for stereotyping Japan. It's a beautiful country with more to see than a ******** comic book shop and naked, fruity-looking, anime-drawn she-males!

Zombicide


Solus Canis Lupus
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:09 pm


Zombicide
They like our style, and have adopted some of our clothing into their styles. But, if I was a regular Japanese citizen, I'd be pretty pissed off at America, for stereotyping Japan. It's a beautiful country with more to see than a ******** comic book shop and naked, fruity-looking, anime-drawn she-males!
I wanna find something I've wanted all along....


Ok, I can see where you're coming from, but are you assuming every person that has a liking for Anime/Manga thinks like that of Japan?

....Somewhere I belong
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:36 pm


Zombicide
They like our style, and have adopted some of our clothing into their styles. But, if I was a regular Japanese citizen, I'd be pretty pissed off at America, for stereotyping Japan. It's a beautiful country with more to see than a ******** comic book shop and naked, fruity-looking, anime-drawn she-males!


Not to mention that Tokyo is the safest major city in the world.

But I think the people you're describing are in a very small minority. I may like some anime and I love alot of Japanese RPGs, but when I think "Japan" I often think about cherry blossoms, traditional honor, graceful women, beautiful landscapes, and ninjas (kidding). There's alot to the country, and I think most of us United-States-ians understand that. No need to combat one perceived stereotype with another, friend.

Arvis_Jaggamar
Crew


Transatlantic Ace

Shy Genius

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:47 pm


Arvis_Jaggamar
Zombicide
They like our style, and have adopted some of our clothing into their styles. But, if I was a regular Japanese citizen, I'd be pretty pissed off at America, for stereotyping Japan. It's a beautiful country with more to see than a ******** comic book shop and naked, fruity-looking, anime-drawn she-males!


Not to mention that Tokyo is the safest major city in the world.

But I think the people you're describing are in a very small minority. I may like some anime and I love alot of Japanese RPGs, but when I think "Japan" I often think about cherry blossoms, traditional honor, graceful women, beautiful landscapes, and ninjas (kidding). There's alot to the country, and I think most of us United-States-ians understand that. No need to combat one perceived stereotype with another, friend.


I think the same way as you, Arvis.
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