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 Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:04 am
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:12 am
Yeah, because you were talking about USA things one time...
Like Walmart.
And MCDonalds.
And attacking sandy countries.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:44 am
I know two black smiths.
Also, they are quite competitive pirate
And also: Cactus juice is the shiz.
One more thing!
I held a 100 pound boa constrictor on the weekend.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:33 am
ok, I dont like attacking other countries, especially ones covered in miles of desert, I dissagree with the government on a lot of issues.
so for one you can tell I'm an American because I think Bush is quite an idiot, and the candidates arent much better. Obama is the son of a known terrorist, hilary clinton is STILL married to the only president to get impeached over a blow job, and the other ******** are just dumb as s**t.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:41 pm
Lets face it though, Bill Clinton kicked major arse.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:40 am
pretty much, clinton was a more human president. when students pick up their books in 20yrs they'll be reading that Bush was an idiot, and an a*****e who'se actions were fueled by greed. so that would be a bit of basic history. :p
it's gonna be all well and good though because bush is gonna be remembered as one of our worst election mistakes, with his only saving grace being his opposition to gay marrige.
and to make a point, marrige is a religious matter, not a political one, when you have a certain faith dominant in an area you apply to those marital laws! marrige is a straight only institution, ordained by sacred law! that is the ONLY issue I'd side with our bone-headed president on!
I had to let that rant out, it was building up.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:59 am
Marriage IS NOT religious.
Who do all those extremists say that all the time?!
Damn...
Gay people only want to marry because then you get the benefits the other married people also get!
And it is pretty important to be married too.
It would suck if you can't marry.
Because then you would still life with your partner, but you have to pay more taxes and are just plain discrimated against by the goverment because you are not married.
Married people get a lot more benefits.
"Marriage is a Sacred Religious thing" my a**.
Oh, and the post about McDonalds and stuff was a joke.
I thought you would be sensitive enough to FEEL (Yes, THROUGH the internet) that it wasn't serious.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:31 pm
Gay marriage...
I don't really care one way or another, but if forced to make a choice, I'd side with those who are for it.
Just because... well... it's more of a legally binding document than a religious expierience, and! You don't actually need a priest to do it.
You could get the captain of a boat to do it for you after all, and it'd still be legal.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:16 am
the roots of marrige are religious, to permit gay marrige sanctioned within a church is to defile the church. before polotics and capitolism wraped it's grimy tenticle around the world it was not the poloticians who ruled, it was the religions.
think about the vikings, they permitted marrige to whoever based on love alone, love alone doesnt bring the next generation. which was found out the hard way. now all we have to remember the ancient berserkers are ruins of what were cities and villages, some torn apart to make room for industrial improvment.
the process of divorce, the muslims created it! all a guy had to say was "I divorce thee" three times, and BAM, that couple was divorced.
religion created marrige, adding that legal mumbo jumbo doesnt make it official.
I do agree that there should be a legal rendition that would suffice, hell, that dipshit Bush has a novel idea with civil unions, the same benefits of marrige on the legal scale, but it didnt put a barbed zwihander in the heart of something that helped Americans push forward. a brilliant idea from a total idiot.
it's just wrong to just slap the church which has helped us up countless time, with something they outright oppose. they put up with the premarital sex, they put up with the murder, the rape, the thievery, a lot of crap, but marrige is straight only, end of story.
a legal only version that legally binds 2 people together is fine, just dont call it marrige. call it shared responsibilities or whatever, but the church shouldnt be violated just to meet the demands of people they oppose.
you dont see devil worshippers going to church unless they're dragged, and primarily for an excorsism, you see plenty of people going to church, I remember as a child having gone to church and seeing quite a bunch of different people around I think either christmas or Easter.
pick on the poloticians, not the church. and I dont go to church! look at how many times a faith has helped someone of some culture pull through some kind of crisis. miracles happen more to the faithful, my brother who is still amoung us had heart surgery, the same thing my father had, and the same surgery that my father died after! my brother was in the same shape, and people from all kinds of religions had god watching over him, prayers going out to ensure my brother's safe return, now he's where he should be, playing video games and being a person! I thank god for every day I have my family! god knows full well I'm grateful, and I wont suddenly let someone defile a church's sanctity on a matter as old as marrige!
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:40 am
RAPTOR948 the roots of marrige are religious, to permit gay marrige sanctioned within a church is to defile the church. before polotics and capitolism wraped it's grimy tenticle around the world it was not the poloticians who ruled, it was the religions. This aren't the goddamn Middle Ages, Raptor. This is the 21st century. We use LOGIC and our MIND these days. And we don't punish women because they got raped. (Well, at least not in the Netherlands) Quote: think about the vikings, they permitted marrige to whoever based on love alone, love alone doesnt bring the next generation. which was found out the hard way. now all we have to remember the ancient berserkers are ruins of what were cities and villages, some torn apart to make room for industrial improvment. Oh, yeah, because we TOTALLY need more people. And I never heard that about the Vikings... Sounds interesting, though... You have a link? Quote: the process of divorce, the muslims created it! all a guy had to say was "I divorce thee" three times, and BAM, that couple was divorced. Bullshit. The first one who created Divorce was some king in England. Because he had women who "Could not give him a baby". So he said: Divorcing = Teh Legalz So he divorced all the time and tried diffirent women. Quote: religion created marrige, adding that legal mumbo jumbo doesnt make it official. Like I said... This ain't the Dark Ages... Marriage totally hasn't got anything to do with religion anymore. Exept in SOME countries. Quote: I do agree that there should be a legal rendition that would suffice, hell, that dipshit Bush has a novel idea with civil unions, the same benefits of marrige on the legal scale, but it didnt put a barbed zwihander in the heart of something that helped Americans push forward. a brilliant idea from a total idiot. The only thing I understanded was that Bush wants "Civil Unions" that give the same right as marriage. Well, that sounds like a good idea. It was around like 50 year already, though... But maybe it will become reality soon. MAYBE. The Barbed Zwihander thing, I did not understand... Quote: it's just wrong to just slap the church which has helped us up countless time, with something they outright oppose. they put up with the premarital sex, they put up with the murder, the rape, the thievery, a lot of crap, but marrige is straight only, end of story. Yeah, because the church is totally a Saint. Didn't started wars for retarded reasons and didn't chase innocent women because they were "witches". Oh, and they TOTALLY didn't organise the Crusades and they didn't created the Spanish Inquistion. Quote: a legal only version that legally binds 2 people together is fine, just dont call it marrige. call it shared responsibilities or whatever, but the church shouldnt be violated just to meet the demands of people they oppose. I don't really care if it should be called marriage or not... Other people DO care, though. But that is their problems. Quote: you dont see devil worshippers going to church unless they're dragged, and primarily for an excorsism, you see plenty of people going to church, I remember as a child having gone to church and seeing quite a bunch of different people around I think either christmas or Easter. There aren't many churches around here anymore... Most people here are Atheïst. I would like to see one from the inside sometimes, though... Quote: pick on the poloticians, not the church. and I dont go to church! look at how many times a faith has helped someone of some culture pull through some kind of crisis. miracles happen more to the faithful, my brother who is still amoung us had heart surgery, the same thing my father had, and the same surgery that my father died after! my brother was in the same shape, and people from all kinds of religions had god watching over him, prayers going out to ensure my brother's safe return, now he's where he should be, playing video games and being a person! I thank god for every day I have my family! god knows full well I'm grateful, and I wont suddenly let someone defile a church's sanctity on a matter as old as marrige! Umm... You have Science to thank for that, chap.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:25 pm
just one thing I want to say really
I highly doubt gayness killed off the vikings
Also!
Are you saying you think people would take offense if gay people went to church on Sunday with everyone else?
I don't think so, so why would they take offense if two of them decided to use that same churche to bind themselves together.
Honestly, I think God would disaprove even more if they ignored him as they bound their lives together.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:53 am
Marrige is a sacred matter, it's roots are in religion, and it's gotta stay that way so the sanctity does not get forgotten.
And I have evidence enough about divorce being made by muslims as it was mentioned in the kuran, or however it's spelled. And it has all kinds of stuff in it, INCLUDING the divorce thing. it mentions how to make love to your partner, marrige restrictions, the whole nine yards, it's actually something I would like to delve deeper into, so as I could better sympathise with the muslims who are needlessly accused of terrorism just because they work in a simple convenience store just to barely feed their families!
It's a thing called the history channel, I had enough time to watch it when my tower was down, it's historical info is correct.
People already take offense to the whole proposal of a same sex couple going into a church and getting bound in holy matrimony, LOTS of people are offended by the very mention of gay marrige.
I know the church has had it's moments of darkness, this isnt something you can slap a band-aid on, the inquisition era was a time where atheism(a blatant disregard of the supernatural), was a threat in the dark ages, making the church beleive heresy was on the rise. the spanish churches were by far the most barbaric in that they commited to torture and execution, often times torturing to death with countless victims, you didnt hear about it with the Polish, nope, peaceful little farming country that in the 12th or 14th century came under attack by invaders who obviously had height issues and had serious self esteem issues.
the crusades in the muslim lands where the savios was said to be born, ok it was a holy war, or so the term is said, it was 2 religions in a clash, christianity and muslim, these were fought by people who thought that their religion was right, which can be marked as zealotry, every religion has it's share of blood thirsty zealots, no denying the facts, zealots exist and take things to extremes.
no matter where yo ulook you see a zealots of some sort, zealots are loyal to something to the end, accuse me of being a zealot oif you like, not gonna stop me. you even bothered to check the media? comedians make jokes about gay marrige frequently, some using the pain of their first prostate exam as fodder for gay bashing, some guys saying that it would be a great way to hang with your pals, it'd just suck if same sex unions were exploited for selfish reasons straying from reproduction.
ok, marrige was created on the text "go forth and propogate" which means to form a union with someone of the opposite gender, and have children. this is the historical base of marrige.
oh, and that euro-king who kept "divorcing" his wives, I think you're making refrence to some lunatic who kept having his wived beheaded or executed simply for giving birth to daughters instead of sons. the problem didnt lie with the mothers though, nor was it the children's fault, it's the problem of the father, the father just had a lot of female reproductive cells in his body.
now we have things to fix this problem, medical research and gene splicing, geno manipulation, genetic coordination is another good term, allowing parents to decide that their child will look like while it's still in the making. though unnatural, and though safer, I think I'll stick to the tried and true method of just letting the throw of the genetic dice determine my children. if I get desperate for a certain look for my children I'll consider it, regardless of how expensive it would be, but it's apparently worth it to see the kind of face your child would have based entirely on your design, regardless of it playing god.
lets just drop the subject from now on. leave this sensitive subject and just get back to what we should be talking about, and that is Nintendo, and the Wii. regardless of how little play time I get on it thanks to my brother always hopping onto it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:54 am
RAPTOR948 Marrige is a sacred matter, it's roots are in religion, and it's gotta stay that way so the sanctity does not get forgotten. ...says all the fundementalist nutjobs. Quote: And I have evidence enough about divorce being made by muslims as it was mentioned in the kuran, or however it's spelled. And it has all kinds of stuff in it, INCLUDING the divorce thing. it mentions how to make love to your partner, marrige restrictions, the whole nine yards, it's actually something I would like to delve deeper into, so as I could better sympathise with the muslims who are needlessly accused of terrorism just because they work in a simple convenience store just to barely feed their families! Dude. The Islam came AFTER that king dude introduced divorce in the church. And I heard the Koran is pretty interesting. I want to read it too, if I can find an translated version. Quote: It's a thing called the history channel, I had enough time to watch it when my tower was down, it's historical info is correct. Yeah, I totally am going to believe you without a link. And even IF the Viking had those marriages, it doesn't mean they died out because of that. Quote: People already take offense to the whole proposal of a same sex couple going into a church and getting bound in holy matrimony, LOTS of people are offended by the very mention of gay marrige. I remember (No, not really. I wasn't even born back then...) a time when LOTS of people were offended if a Jew walked down their lane. Like I said, 3 times already, this ain't the Dark Ages. Anymore. Quote: I know the church has had it's moments of darkness, this isnt something you can slap a band-aid on, the inquisition era was a time where atheism(a blatant disregard of the supernatural), was a threat in the dark ages, making the church beleive heresy was on the rise. the spanish churches were by far the most barbaric in that they commited to torture and execution, often times torturing to death with countless victims, you didnt hear about it with the Polish, nope, peaceful little farming country that in the 12th or 14th century came under attack by invaders who obviously had height issues and had serious self esteem issues. Yeah, the Polish people are TOTALLY saints. The same with the Dutch people. And of course the Germna people. NEVER did anything wrong. No sir, they NEVER started a war or anything. Quote: the crusades in the muslim lands where the savios was said to be born, ok it was a holy war, or so the term is said, it was 2 religions in a clash, christianity and muslim, these were fought by people who thought that their religion was right, which can be marked as zealotry, every religion has it's share of blood thirsty zealots, no denying the facts, zealots exist and take things to extremes. I agree with you there. It wasn't PURELY religous, though. SOME of the people in those Crusades were just coming along for money and booty. And free food. Quote: no matter where yo ulook you see a zealots of some sort, zealots are loyal to something to the end, accuse me of being a zealot oif you like, not gonna stop me. you even bothered to check the media? comedians make jokes about gay marrige frequently, some using the pain of their first prostate exam as fodder for gay bashing, some guys saying that it would be a great way to hang with your pals, it'd just suck if same sex unions were exploited for selfish reasons straying from reproduction. I call you a Zealot. I think. Yeah. You pretty much fill the prescription. I mean, you BELIEVE in what you say. Only stupid people get offended when people make fun of you/your lifestyle/religion. It is only offendning when they are doing it because they want to HURT you. Oh, and EVERYTHING that humans do is for selfish reasons. It is just the way society evolved. Quote: ok, marrige was created on the text "go forth and propogate" which means to form a union with someone of the opposite gender, and have children. this is the historical base of marrige. Don't say stuff that isn't true, Raptor. Marriage existed BEFORE those Cristian people maked that like that. And it was a whole lot diffirent. The text. Most people married at the eldest dude/dudette in the village. Oh, and once again, TIMES CHANGE. Quote: oh, and that euro-king who kept "divorcing" his wives, I think you're making refrence to some lunatic who kept having his wived beheaded or executed simply for giving birth to daughters instead of sons. the problem didnt lie with the mothers though, nor was it the children's fault, it's the problem of the father, the father just had a lot of female reproductive cells in his body. Don't call a king "Euro-King". It is not nice. I was talking about some English king. And no. He did not kill them. He just maked himslef head of the church (Got a fight with the pope because of that too) and maked that law about divorcing=legal. Quote: now we have things to fix this problem, medical research and gene splicing, geno manipulation, genetic coordination is another good term, allowing parents to decide that their child will look like while it's still in the making. though unnatural, and though safer, I think I'll stick to the tried and true method of just letting the throw of the genetic dice determine my children. if I get desperate for a certain look for my children I'll consider it, regardless of how expensive it would be, but it's apparently worth it to see the kind of face your child would have based entirely on your design, regardless of it playing god. SOMEONE watched too much scifi. This kinda technolgy doesn't exist yet! Just over 10 years. Quote: lets just drop the subject from now on. leave this sensitive subject and just get back to what we should be talking about, and that is Nintendo, and the Wii. regardless of how little play time I get on it thanks to my brother always hopping onto it. And I was just having so much fun...
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:56 am
dragn99 just one thing I want to say really I highly doubt gayness killed off the vikings Also! Are you saying you think people would take offense if gay people went to church on Sunday with everyone else? I don't think so, so why would they take offense if two of them decided to use that same churche to bind themselves together. Honestly, I think God would disaprove even more if they ignored him as they bound their lives together. I agree with you, Brian. Exept the God part, but that doesn't matter.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:02 am
we already have genetic engineering, havent you seen that? whyelse would we have certain enhancements on children who are suddenly born?
if a child is born with a part of their body enhanced in size, breasts, buttox, etc, you could blame it on several things. their diet, their heritage, environment, but if neither parent displays a trait I find individually unique, I'll blame it on the roll of the genetic dice that a recessive gene became dominant in a one in a million chance, or genetic engineering.
ok you can fake anything. but to get best results you'd need to go down to it on a genetic scale.
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