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Thowell3

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:02 pm


The Master. They way they brought him back was greate. A Future Version of him was always on the Planint posing as Herold Saxon and it was building up to it all season. How Could you not like that.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:23 pm


timcool8
The Master. They way they brought him back was greate. A Future Version of him was always on the Planint posing as Herold Saxon and it was building up to it all season. How Could you not like that.


Again, it's all a matter of opinion, to which you viewing other's inputs as derogatory with no consolable arguement bears no regard wink

On the other hand, I thought it was a way as good as any to bring the Master back into Doctor Who. The hints were good, as were the Bad Wolf references all through the new series 1. The Master deserved a good comeback, and although I thought John Simm played the part fantastically, I still have that soft spot for Anthony Ainley n_n

Pseudowho


Teatime Brutality

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:06 pm


Hairy Priest

Yeah, sure, it's all subjective. And my subjective opinion is I want better endings to two-parters. razz

It can be tricky keeping the debate and the meta-debate separate at times. 3nodding

I'm probably with you as far as the conclusion of Season Three goes. For the first two then it felt to me watching it that whatever sci-fi resolution was ultimately used to wrap it all up didn't really matter - what was important was which moral choices the characters were going to make and who was going to get out alive. The mechanics of how the story was resolved felt as trivial as they did back when Pertwee would wrap up this month's crisis by pulling some impossible technobabble out of the air - the meat of the story was elsewhere.

With Last of the Timelords it felt a bit different, the story was so invested in its own internal logic that it did feel a bit of a cheat when it stepped out of that logic to resolve it. It felt as if we'd been set up to think that the mechanics of the resolution did matter in this instance, only to find out otherwise.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:52 pm


the daleks come on there the longest running villain's in the series

Free the immortal


Hairy Priest
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:28 pm


Richard_Swift
I'm probably with you as far as the conclusion of Season Three goes. For the first two then it felt to me watching it that whatever sci-fi resolution was ultimately used to wrap it all up didn't really matter - what was important was which moral choices the characters were going to make and who was going to get out alive. The mechanics of how the story was resolved felt as trivial as they did back when Pertwee would wrap up this month's crisis by pulling some impossible technobabble out of the air - the meat of the story was elsewhere.

I suppose there's some truth to that point. I mean, when the Doctor whips out his tube of anti-plastic at the end of 'Rose', it's a bit of a cheat, but the intended point of the scene is less about how the Doctor came up with the magic bullet, and more about how the Doctor tries to resolve the situation without using it, so I didn't mind so much.

Getting back to the original topic, as much as I generally like Dalek stories, I'm starting to get fatigued by their continual appearances, and I think that's partly why I don't consider them the best revived villain. 'Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks' was probably my least favorite Series 3 story (though '42' comes close for being rather boring). That silly human/Dalek hybrid thing took me out of the story completely.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:28 am


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Getting back to the original topic, as much as I generally like Dalek stories, I'm starting to get fatigued by their continual appearances, and I think that's partly why I don't consider them the best revived villain. 'Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks' was probably my least favorite Series 3 story (though '42' comes close for being rather boring). That silly human/Dalek hybrid thing took me out of the story completely.


Yes, I know the feeling. Although I really do enjoy Dalek stories, after the millionth time they're used, it all seems to get a bit same-y.
On the other hand, anybody seen Revelation of the Daleks? biggrin

Pseudowho


Luna_Night_Guard

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:45 pm


The Master by far was the best come back!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:58 pm


The Master... Cos... well... He's fit? mrgreen
okay so thats not the only reason but yeah, its works cos of the whole timelord bond-y thing and the fact that this is another man timelord who has had pretty much the same upbringing as him as a kind of, this could have been the doctor! kinda thing... though I really didnt like the bit of last of the timelords where there was the whole cage falling away effects... too disney for me... stressed
The flying was good though... and how those words were like the scariest words the doctor could have used on the master.

MisaAiNoNai


Tenth_Doctor_Who

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:10 pm


Definitely the Master! I love how he came back in Utopia/Sound of Drums... And the fact that he was just as built-up to as the Bad Wolf Arc. I still don't like there wasn't an arc like that in the 2nd season... I hope another comes in the fourth season of NewWho.  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:44 am


i think the Master was a great come back!!
like alot of you are saying, the build up was great and John simm played him excellantly!

Also what's Doctor Who without Daleks huh!?

The family of blood episodes were great too, seeing the doctor as human was great, and of course helped lead us up to the master, with the stop watch etc.

braveph


Shangrilicious

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:03 am


Well, Daleks are win, obvly.
They aren't scary, ut they are still win. Because they are Daleks/
Then the Master, because John Simm was amazing. Even thought the ending to that series finally was dreadful.
Family of Blood were good, especially the Baines guy.
New cybermen are AWFUL.
They're not scary in any way.And apparently really easy to kill.

I really hope the Sontarons are good in the next series, I've always loved them. Yay Strar <3
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:57 am


Well me of course! I just didn't like the whole "Doctor Messiah" bit but everything was brilliant!

The Master and Lucy


Shangrilicious

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:57 pm


The Master and Lucy
Well me of course! I just didn't like the whole "Doctor Messiah" bit but everything was brilliant!

Yeah you were amazing.
Can't wait for you to come back
8}
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:08 pm


Shangri-La`
Can't wait for you to come back

IF he comes back  

Tenth_Doctor_Who


Shangrilicious

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:05 am


Tenth_Doctor_Who
Shangri-La`
Can't wait for you to come back

IF he comes back

There was the Timelord ring that his wife/ somebody picked up afterward his body was burnt, hinting that he will come back. RTD likes to have constant reoccuring monsters because he can't think of many himself. The Master will come back sooner or later.,
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