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Profitable Conversationalist
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 Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:27 pm
OK, just offering suggestions. Trying to be helpful, not redundant, but not sure I succeed at either.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:00 am
I'm sure you've thought of it but when you do the ellections type of thing for the mods.
If you choose to have the guild help you can narrow down the selection then give the present the ones the mods think have a chance at being mods to the public. Then we can tell you a few good things about the mods and some critiques. To kinda get you guys to see what others think about them.
For the sub forms I'd say there should be a few deignated games and the marketplace is dead... There's the odd new thread and some activity once in a blue moon. You could see if it would work as a IDD. I wasn't here when that was here though... sad
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:53 pm
Get rid of the extended discussion forum. its pretty pointless for it 2 exist.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:50 pm
Chency Get rid of the extended discussion forum. its pretty pointless for it 2 exist. We don't have an ED, but if we did I certainly wouldn't want it gone...
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:09 pm
Alarias I disagree. This isn't the Any Game Guild...the point is for discussion. I agree the games are good for icebreakers and it would be nice to have those on the main page instead of just relying on the Phunkeh thread. However, too many those games can quickly fill up the main page and block room for any kind of discussion. I remember quite clearly coming in here and only seeing threads with titles like "Letter Game" "Letter Game 2" "___ the avi above you" "___ ___ the avi above you" "__ __ the avi above you AND below you". Also, the game room is not dead. As far as subforums go, from what I've seen, it's more active than most. I think the Marketplace probably should be removed...I agree that it's the most inactive thing in this guild...Maybe we could turn it into a new IDD subforum and see how it goes. And Sav, when we removed the IDD subforum the first time, not enough people came forward to protest it. We really are just trying to do what's best for the guild as a whole...we're not perfect and sometimes things that work for a little while, stop working...things change. One solution at one point in time may not be appropriate for another... Maybe we could make some sort of compromise...like bringing out the most popular game thread "Say something about the avi above you" and use that as a second ice breaker...but, leave the rest of the not-as-popular games in the subforum. I mean, Phunkeh is an exception to the no chat threads...maybe the AAY thread could be our exception to the games rule in order to encourage more activity from our members...?
Games are the best ice breakers, the "Say something about the person above you thread" is a much better thread then the Phunkin thread for ice breaking. In fact it invites new members to participate more then the phunkin thread.
Not enough people, just about everyone who used it didn't want it to go. Every time we bring this topic up people say "Bring the IDD back!"
Even when the ATG was super Active the games didn't blow everything out of the water.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:02 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:02 pm
Parties. By this i mean hold special parties for holidays, birthdays, all that stuff, not just contests.
i like that mod nomination idea! probably be the last to be voted for but i like! XD.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:11 pm
Saverio C. Games are the best ice breakers, the "Say something about the person above you thread" is a much better thread then the Phunkin thread for ice breaking. In fact it invites new members to participate more then the phunkin thread. That's why I said maybe we could make some sort of exception and bring out the Say something about the avi above you thread but, leave the rest in the subforum. That way, we have another ice breaker on the main page but, no chance of being flooded with games. Saverio C. Not enough people, just about everyone who used it didn't want it to go. Every time we bring this topic up people say "Bring the IDD back!" I'm telling you, we made a thread and only a few people came in saying that they wanted the IDD subforum to stay. Maybe they didn't realize it was there or that they could have said something. I know some people said they didn't feel it was their place to step in...but, the majority of votes were supporting removing the subforum. That's just what happened. And we did say that if it didn't work out, we could change it back...so, now that people are coming forward saying they want it back, we are considering remaking it. Saverio C. Even when the ATG was super Active the games didn't blow everything out of the water. Actually, I remember they did...games were everywhere...and a good deal of people were complaining about it because there wasn't much room for any discussion threads...all the games kept pushing them down. Which is why I think it would be better to leave the Games/RP subforum intact.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:28 am
Don't forget Ala, we do have The Map- which is currently part of the Welcome to the ATG -Survival Guide thread. I don't think it would be unreasonable to move that to its own sticky and update it so that both games and IDD topics could be found on the main page (or their respective subforms).
The Map its self could actually replace a lot of the stickies we currently have. We could just un-sticky them but have them linked in the Map thread.
I am of the personal opinion at this point that subforms are crap. Very few people actually check them regularly enough to make something worth wild out of them. We had the IDD in a subform because people were complaining that they couldn't find their topics (and they hadn't thought to bookmark them on their own computer)...soon the IDD was crying because not enough people were posting and they wanted it moved back to the main page. But there was still a problem that they couldn't find their topics because now games were over running the front page. So we made games/rp subform...
IDD still seemed to disappear all together under the weight of the useless and borderline junk topics even without the games in the main forum.
98% of the current topics posted don't break ATG rules for posting and can't be deleted. However their value of most of it is minimal at best...
Bringing back Games, RP's, IDD, RL-topics & Thriving Marketplace stores to the main forum and having them on "The Map", than moving the spam-ish and junk topics to an ANYTHING subform to wither and die would be my ideal.
But remember, no matter what we do as crew. If you as members don't help to up keep it, it will fail.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:56 pm
This is going no where! You know what I think, about all of it, and if I don't get my wsy I will resort to angry emails!
At the very least put the say somethin thread back on top, Where is belongs! The phunkin thread is more of a regulars lounge
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:34 pm
seeing as people cant agree, you should put a poll up about what your currently on topic about (all the mods that are usually active) about what happens to that idea, whether it stays or goes, or which side gets what it wants, that way its majority of the users in the guild within that period of time, and the period of time is up to the mods. would make stuff easier on everyone instead of bickering back and forth about each thing.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:03 pm
Dark_Wyvern seeing as people cant agree, you should put a poll up about what your currently on topic about (all the mods that are usually active) about what happens to that idea, whether it stays or goes, or which side gets what it wants, that way its majority of the users in the guild within that period of time, and the period of time is up to the mods. would make stuff easier on everyone instead of bickering back and forth about each thing. Well, once we make some actual solid options/choices, they will most likely be put to a poll for the guild to vote on (that's how it's been done in the past). Right now, discussion is needed to determine what options exactly are to be considered. smile
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:13 pm
Saverio C.
This is going no where! You know what I think, about all of it, and if I don't get my wsy I will resort to angry emails!I don't understand why you are being so hostile about this. Is not the point of discussing this to come up with compromises and alternate solutions that the majority will be satisfied with, rather than just a solution that one member would be satisfied with? And, I disagree. I think the feedback we're getting is very beneficial. We're just all going to have to sort through these issues patiently and try to work something out. Saverio C. At the very least put the say somethin thread back on top, Where is belongs! The phunkin thread is more of a regulars lounge Well, I'm guessing by "back on top" you mean on the main page...which, I already suggested...(if I'm wrong, please do elaborate). So, it's an idea that's already out there for us all to consider smile
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:50 pm
LadiSilverfox Don't forget Ala, we do have The Map- which is currently part of the Welcome to the ATG -Survival Guide thread. I don't think it would be unreasonable to move that to its own sticky and update it so that both games and IDD topics could be found on the main page (or their respective subforms). Yes, but the thing about that is, people tend to forget about stickies (or overlook them) and that wouldn't really offer a solution for the icebreakers on the main page. Also, I believe we did (for a little while) have IDD topics on the map to prevent them from falling off the main page into oblivion...but, people either forgot or got tired of checking there...so, they died anyways. I do agree though that the map should maybe have its own sticky 3nodding LadiSilverfox The Map its self could actually replace a lot of the stickies we currently have. We could just un-sticky them but have them linked in the Map thread. Now, that is definitely an interesting idea that I think is worth looking into 3nodding LadiSilverfox I am of the personal opinion at this point that subforms are crap. Very few people actually check them regularly enough to make something worth wild out of them. Well, I agree they are slower and somewhat more of a hassle...but, I think sometimes the benefits from them outweigh the negative aspects of them. I personally think the games subforum is quite active for a subforum...it's more active than some guilds I've been in lol LadiSilverfox We had the IDD in a subform because people were complaining that they couldn't find their topics (and they hadn't thought to bookmark them on their own computer)...soon the IDD was crying because not enough people were posting and they wanted it moved back to the main page. But there was still a problem that they couldn't find their topics because now games were over running the front page. So we made games/rp subform...
IDD still seemed to disappear all together under the weight of the useless and borderline junk topics even without the games in the main forum. That is very true...and now we've tried both ways - with the IDD subforum and without the IDD subforum. So, the way I see it, if we leave the IDD topics on the main page, unless some persistent members continue the debates, they're doomed to die fairly rapidly. And since we have so many new complaints from members who want the subforum back, I think we ought to make it and if they don't get enough attention...oh well. At least in their own subforum, the threads will stick around and be easier to find and will have a better chance at being successes. If members complain about the lack of activity, we should just explain that those are the breaks. At the very least, I think we ought to make a poll for the option of bringing it back and see just how much support the IDD subforum has. LadiSilverfox Bringing back Games, RP's, IDD, RL-topics & Thriving Marketplace stores to the main forum and having them on "The Map",(would be my ideal) Well, I like the idea of doing that with the thriving shops...there aren't a good deal of those that are active (from what I've seen) so, that shouldn't flood the main page, and having a link to each shop in the map thread, would ensure that the owner could find it to update it...Or we could just make a thread for members to post links to their shops...or get rid of shops altogether...I guess that could be voted on too to see what most of the members think. I'm not so fond of the bringing back the games/RPs, as I've already mentioned. They can overpower everything else too easily in my opinion. The IDD topics are currently here...and apparently a good deal of members aren't satisfied with their current state so, I think that'll have to be voted on. However, if we put the shops out here and link them to the map, then the subforum could be made into the IDD subforum. LadiSilverfox 98% of the current topics posted don't break ATG rules for posting and can't be deleted. However their value of most of it is minimal at best... LadiSilverfox than moving the spam-ish and junk topics to an ANYTHING subform to wither and die would be my ideal. But, that can be tricky to determine which thread is "better" than another...and would probably boil down to opinion...unless you make stricter guidelines for threads which could sort of bog down the main page with an overload of seriousness... And, we've already had complaints about members being required to spoonfeed the guild...so, that would go completely against that... LadiSilverfox But remember, no matter what we do as crew. If you as members don't help to up keep it, it will fail. Very true 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:24 pm
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