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 Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:35 pm
Wolven Spirits Uh, yeah... happens everywhere. Sucks, eh. I get that sometimes at my school, but I can't do anything because the parents are there, and if you try and discipline their child, they really hate it, even if - to me - it's not a very big punishment. Never mind that it's a Martial Art, and not a daycare centre. Yeah, I see alot of that stuff in other dojangs/dojos. I try to tell kids that they aren't doing the techniques right, and parents get angry at me for "crushing their self-esteem," or crap like that. Quite frankly, their self-esteem is gonna get blown to hell when their faces are pounded into the ground in real situations, all because they can't perform the techniques correctly or effectively. The parents who have their kids at the class I mainly go to actually appreciate my criticism because they actually want their kids to be able to defend themselves.
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:31 pm
thats true, but sometimes u get kids who just cant take criticism like that. Some might have joined as a result of being beaten in the first place, so critisizing them is going to be upsetting and they just arent going to take it well. Others just arent mature enough. I guess you have to help them develop enough and be strong enough as people to be able to take criticism and see the benefits etc etc
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:35 pm
duskydawn LOL, my instructor tells us we aren't even martial artists unless we have a flat belly. That lady sounds terrible. I've seen so many martial artists who are really fast and really good at what they do and they've got a beer gut. They claim to me that it softens the punches that they recieve, dunno about that because they're that quick they don't get hit anyway. duskydawn Although most of the girls who go definitely doubt their martial artist status at times rolleyes I have to agree with that. I'm getting sick of the club I'm at because of the way I'm being treated. I'm meant to be going for the next coloured belt in a couple of months. Due to my work, I can only train once a week there (so I also train at another club that I can get to to get in a bit of extra training, plus do more at home). If I do a technique wrong, instead of telling me how to fix it, they say "don't worry about it tonight, it's obviousyou haven't been here in a while". But this is ALWAYS to techniques that are new to me. So obviously I doubt myself a lot there thinking that I'll never be worthy in their eyes to achieve a shodan sometime in the next few years. I'm starting to think that I'll never be worthy either.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:33 pm
My school is definitely not the strictest or most traditional, and I'm sure the training is not as intensive as other schools. We try to focus on attitude, focus, discipline etc, especially for the younger children.
However, if we feel a student is not doing well enough for their rank and age and not improving, we don't let them test- or if they are disrespectful and have a bad attitude. We test 4 times a year, and we test everyone at the same time.
Some of the older and more talented students we let challenge (skip the intermediate belts- go straight from blue to purple, for example, and skip blue-advanced), so it does not take as long to get a black belt as it would in most schools.
If a student sticks with it (it's sad how many students don't) and passes all their tests, they can earn a black belt in 4 to 5 years. Or if they challenge all their belts like I did, they can earn it in about 3. I personally earned it in 3, and then spent 2 years earning my 2nd degree, and hopefully soon my teachers will write the 2nd degree form so I can work towards my 3rd degree.
Though some of your stories make my school seem like boot camp... I've had a parent come up and THANK me for making her son do push-ups for not listening to me
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:48 pm
duskydawn Although most of the girls who go definitely doubt their martial artist status at times rolleyes In general I don't- I know my that technique, forms, stances, speed, etc are just as good as the guys my rank, but I do somewhat when it comes to board breaking and sparring. I just don't have the same size or strength. 1) I'm a girl, and 2) I'm a fairly small girl So I haven't broken nearly as high level boards as most of the guys (including ones lower ranked). Partially because of my lack of muscle and body weight, and partially because I sometimes get intimidated by the board. I'm not the most confident in my sparring skills either. I could beat most of lower ranks hands down, but there's one brown belt (a girl also) and then the other 2nd degrees that I have trouble with. Though I'm also not a particularly aggressive person, so I tend to get caught on defense, and don't take a lot opportunities. But lately we've been doing 2 on 1 sparring, which has really improved my 1 on 1 sparring as well! Not to mention it's a lot of fun.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:00 am
i am confident in what i can do, but i know my limits and what i need to work on- i guess thats the difference between being confident and not being confident. I am confident that in some techniques i have no idea what i am doing mrgreen and in others, im pretty good for my grade
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:35 am
KaseyBaby duskydawn LOL, my instructor tells us we aren't even martial artists unless we have a flat belly. That lady sounds terrible. I've seen so many martial artists who are really fast and really good at what they do and they've got a beer gut. They claim to me that it softens the punches that they recieve, dunno about that because they're that quick they don't get hit anyway. duskydawn Although most of the girls who go definitely doubt their martial artist status at times rolleyes I have to agree with that. I'm getting sick of the club I'm at because of the way I'm being treated. I'm meant to be going for the next coloured belt in a couple of months. Due to my work, I can only train once a week there (so I also train at another club that I can get to to get in a bit of extra training, plus do more at home). If I do a technique wrong, instead of telling me how to fix it, they say "don't worry about it tonight, it's obviousyou haven't been here in a while". But this is ALWAYS to techniques that are new to me. So obviously I doubt myself a lot there thinking that I'll never be worthy in their eyes to achieve a shodan sometime in the next few years. I'm starting to think that I'll never be worthy either. I know! My instructor lives on Jim Beam, Red Bull and chocolate... It makes me wonder how he remains up to standard, as well as able to preach fitness and wellbeing so roundly.... That second part is so true. Even if you go all the time, sometimes people just want to put off teaching you things. "WOW! You look like a gumby doin' it like that! We can learn the Poomse tomorrow..." *that's what you said LAST FORTNIGHT, Sir...* Also, the stuff that has been mentioned in other posts, with the modern touchy-feely self-esteem stuff? I agree, it's stupid to hide the truth by tiptoeing around people's feelings.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:53 pm
I just did a "Blue Shorts Test" at my gym
An optional test that's more or less certification to be an Assisstant instructor
It was rough - 3 hours.
THe warm-up was 10 minutes of Jumping rope and 10 minutes of Shadowboxing - not bad.
Then we had to demonstrate padwork, where they watched both the holder and hitter. Again, not bad. Then we got a short knowledge section where we had to demonstrate techniques and answer questions about MT Culture.
Then we started doing padwork with the trainers and it was 2x10, and switching in the middle of the round with a new trainer. This is where it got harder.
Then we had to do conditioning stuff - 100 punches in under one minute, then 50 kicks under one minute for the right leg, same for the left leg, 50 knees in under 1 minute, then 50 skip knees. It was rough
After that, you had to throw 100 bodykicks and leg kicks each side with full power and taking time.
This is where I started to feel beat.
After all this, 100 pushups, situps, and squats
The very last was a 10 minute round of "sparring", which was basically one-sided hazing. After it was over, we had to go one extra 5 minute round.
Kinda glad that I came out with what seemed to be the least damage and got some new shorts too.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:50 pm
so to pass that test do you have to do quite well? Or just survive?
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:32 pm
Iconised Ghost so to pass that test do you have to do quite well? Or just survive? Survive Some trainers went buckwild sparring But the rest went light, especially when they were heavier than me. My training partner told me he had to take a knee everytime he got hit (they went easy on the head, but full on the body and legs). And in the first round, I was evenly matched up with the guy, who wasn't a trainer but a guy who passed the last test. Because I was doing so well, my head trainer was kicking me in the legs while I was sparring. It was a rough experience, but not too bad. The guy I mentioned above, who took the test a few months ago, said he got knocked out during his, but he just got back up and finished. He said he couldn't see straight for a while.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:10 am
Awesome stuff 3nodding Grats on the assistant instructor jobby
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:05 am
a lot of people don't deserve black belts but, do you honestly think that the school would reject them of one, when they're paying money for it?
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:10 am
Psyense a lot of people don't deserve black belts but, do you honestly think that the school would reject them of one, when they're paying money for it? That is exactly the point of the thread. Too many "blackbelts" bought it, not earnt it
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:59 am
DarklingGlory Psyense a lot of people don't deserve black belts but, do you honestly think that the school would reject them of one, when they're paying money for it? That is exactly the point of the thread. Too many "blackbelts" bought it, not earnt it thats why i like my art ^_^ its a non-profit organisation, so no one benefits financially from you grading, you just pay for the cost of the belt, the certificate, and for mailing your results to Japan to have them processed. I know several people who have failed black belt gradings.
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:05 am
Iconised Ghost DarklingGlory Psyense a lot of people don't deserve black belts but, do you honestly think that the school would reject them of one, when they're paying money for it? That is exactly the point of the thread. Too many "blackbelts" bought it, not earnt it thats why i like my art ^_^ its a non-profit organisation, so no one benefits financially from you grading, you just pay for the cost of the belt, the certificate, and for mailing your results to Japan to have them processed. I know several people who have failed black belt gradings. When you say "non-profit" what do you mean? The instructors dont get paid? They have other jobs? You dont pay for training? So how much does it cost for your gradings?
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