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 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:12 pm
EH, guess there is a point to that, but it'd add to Minoto's insane laughter.
So, I figured these characters would be best for some comic releif. Oro, mostly, but seems how we're going to try an tone things down for a bit, between Oro's mind, Imuzi's bad luck, the fun times will roll.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:25 pm
and Cam's innate ability to be horribly reckless and clumsy, not to mention his being mute and having to speak to people using a pen and pad. Which, Ryu, are you going to Have Shizue go with him to classes?
Nice one though, I was actually hoping someone would make a comment on Patwinka's judgement. In jr. high, and in high school, I took speech class, and I always ended up doing the debate: Marijuana, should it be legal or not? I was quite good, and I always won the debate, proving that, despite the cons, marijuana would have less legalities if it were legalized, and that the biggest reason it isn't legalized is due to big companies not liking the idea of the whole "Homegrown" thing. And it is funny, not only do many of my friends and family(Even my mother!) believe it should be legalized, but I do as well, and that is suprising to some, considering the one time I tried it, I almost died and had to be rushed to the ER, cuz it turned out, I am allergic to the stuff.
I also believe that Coca Leaves should be made available in dried herbal form as an extremely controlled Rx medication for people. I mean, chewing the leaf is enough really to deaded the pain in pretty much anything, and seriously, the drug itself is only as bad as the person who chooses to abuse it, let themselves go, and allow themselves to become addicts who then cannot get free. Take alcohol and tobacco. i myself smoke cigars and even cigarettes from time to time, and I drink a good bit. But, I am not an alcoholic, and I am not a smoker, as I do not do so very often, and if I don't feel like it, I don't. It is because I am strong enough to say tyo myself "I am in control, it is nice to have a drink, nice to ahve a smoke, but it will not rule my life, if I don't feel like ti, I won't do it, regardless of what the effects may cause my body to feel. and I have been doign that with caffeine for years. Despite caffiene cravings, I don't give in to them.
But yeah, I plan on having the Mind part of the tourney, involve some really good and deeply involved logical and practical stuff, as well as debates and crap. make it interesting, you know. That part is going to be kinda like Amazing Race I guess, everyone split up, running around, to get to the goal, but in order to, they have to follow a series of clues, one clue leads to the next. And the clues are only obtained through winning against the person bearing the clue, by solving a logic problem, or practical stuff, all kinds of interesting stuff. I just think it would be an interesting approach, for the second part of the tourney
and Vain, don't forget, Noob Saibot agreed to join up with Xiaeriene's team during the tourney, mainly because now it only will consist of herself, Bardok, Izumi, and her brother
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:58 pm
Eh, I don't see the point in drugs, just ******** you up for a hefty price, and possibility of jail time.
I drink every so often, but never past a buzz; though, that normally takes awhile >.> Last time I got a buzz, it was after drinking 2 Steele Reserves, a white russian, and half a bottle of Coffee Brandy with Milk.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:08 pm
I forgot all about Noob. I had planned on Vain, Bardok, Izumi, and Namagi teaming up for the tourniment, seems how Asuka has to team with the other pillars. As well, as Jagen, Kyros, Natu (Will be revieled later), and a suprise character.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:14 pm
The only thing I see Marijuana doing is causing cancer six times faster than cigarettes for something your brain produces naturally. Coca is probably the worse thing you could get your hands on next to meth. Chewing a leaf or no, narcotics ******** the chemicals in your brain pretty much ensuring addiction. And when enough is consumed it makes your heart explode from over work because it constricts the blood veins. Not only that but it literally destroys your brain, all drugs do. Except alcohol and caffeine which work primarily on the digestive tract.
The main reason I oppose legalization of marijuana is because it does slow reaction time. A lapse of judgment from the people who do use it gets them in a car and that's scary business. Oh it slows it by a good 1.5 to 3 seconds. trust me, I screw with my friends who use weed when they're high. Who also drive while they're high. So chances are, yes people will drive stoned.
The other big reason is the fact that once one illegal drug is legalized the rest will probably follow.
Oh and in Japan, where the RP takes place, possession of Vicodin is grounds for like 6 years in prison. Since the society is so close knit anything that could potentially make that unravel is banned with a hefty price to pay.
Just a quote for you
"Illegal Drugs: Penalties for possession or use of, or trafficking in illegal drugs, including marijuana, in Japan are strict, and convicted offenders can expect long jail sentences and fines. In most drug cases, suspects are usually detained incommunicado, which bars them from receiving visitors or corresponding with anyone other than a lawyer or U.S. consular officer until after indictment, which may take as long as several months. Solitary confinement is common.
People can be convicted of drug use based on positive blood or urine tests alone, and multiple Americans are now serving time in Japanese prisons as the result of sting operations and the use of informers. The Japanese police routinely share information on drug arrests with Interpol, assuring that notice of the arrest will reach U.S. law enforcement agencies. About half of all Americans now in prison in Japan are incarcerated for drug-related crimes.
Japanese authorities aggressively pursue drug smugglers with sophisticated detection equipment, "sniffing" dogs and other methods. Travelers and their luggage entering Japan are screened at ports of entry; incoming and outgoing mail, as well as international packages sent via DHL or FEDEX, is also checked carefully. The Japanese police make arrests for even the smallest amounts of illegal drugs. Several Americans are now in custody after having mailed illegal drugs to themselves from other countries. Other Americans are serving time for having tried to bring drugs into Japan as paid couriers working out of Southeast Asia or Europe. "
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:29 pm
eah, but when you bring up reaction time and cars into the argument, you are using a flawed example, as the same reason were used when Prohibition was set, to try and keep alcohol illegal. And as we all know, Alcohol is legal once again. Personally, I don't see a difference between drunk driving, and driving under the influence of drugs like weed. as for cancer, that's the point, smoking period gives cancer, better not to become addicted, or best to abstain. As for Coca, it has been used in ancient times, when the use of such substances actually had a purpose; not as a high, but as a medicine. And speaking of cocaine, a liquid form is actually used in some kinds of surgery as a topical anethetic. And narcotics are opiates, and coca does nto fall intot hat category. And anythign derived from opium is far worse due to it's highly addictive properties, as well as the deadliness of withdrawals. Personally, I don't think drugs should be used to get high in the first palce, weren't they originally meant to be for medicinals? It is people who choose to use them to get high despite the fact you can get high naturally. Of course, I as well have no room to talk, as I use two drugs a lot myself: Alcohol and Caffeine. And Yes, alcohol is a drug, despite being legal and not only your digestive tract is bothered, but also your liver, kidneys, and spleen are affected quite a bit from alcohol usage, and the brain is obviously affected. Not to mention the effects alcohol has on the nervous system in general, from impaired sensory to muscle spasms, breathing problems, and such. And Caffeine too, is in fact a drug, the most highly and commonly abused drug in this world today, though it is really just more or less the mildest stimulant known to man, and stimulants are widely used anyway, like Ritalin and Aderall
In the end, Drugs are not all bad, it is their purposes that are bad, and the people who use them that are bad. Except, maybe designer drugs like extasy and meth. I really don't see any sort of medicinal use for those, just like moonshine, you are playing with forces that should not be played with by an untrained and uninformed individual.
And remember, this is coming from a guy who refuses to take Vicodin for pain when it is prescribed to him, because of the fact that I am strongly against pain killers and muscle relaxers, just as far as I am concerned. Anyone else, if they feel the need, go for it, if the doctor says so, but not me, I am not touching that s**t after what it did to my father, thereby affecting my and my brother's lives. My father was an Rx druggie, abusing all kinds of Rx drugs: Vicodin, Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Demorall, Tylox, Valium, Soma, Morphine, Phenobarbitol, Loracet, Percocet, and plenty of others I don't remember the name of. I am personally against consuming any sort of drug unless I absolutely ahve to, psychiatric meds are just useless crap as far as I am concerned....just as far as I am concerned....for MY body
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:54 pm
Let's use simple statistic from California. To get a permit for medical marijuana giving one example of a medical issue that needs a slow down effect to help. Such as ADD. And 500 dollars. And you can now get legal prescription weed. Same process with a narcotic, your system has just been flooded with addicts. Doesn't matter how strong it is, you have just created abusers. Old world herbal remedy or no, it's illegal for a reason. Reason being yu can process it and make cocaine from coca. Thus it's illegal. And yes Coca is considered a narcotic. Oh and Cocaine and al products associated with it are banned by international law. Not just US law. Thus anyone in the UN can't legalize anything to do with it. Weed is also in the UN ban. So it's not just US laws that need to be changed to legalize either.
Since it happens with not one friend who does weed, but 12 out of the 12 friends I have that do weed it's about as flawed as a flawless diamond from a master cutter. Alcohol related car deaths in California alone are over 40,000 a year. Add weed to the scenario that's gonna just get higher. No pun intended.
Stimulants are different from narcotics and hallucinogenics. Weed is a hallucinogenic. Caffeine is a stimulant.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:16 pm
If cocaine is banned in all forms, then why, up until it was completely replaced by lasers, was liquid cocaine on occasion used as a topical anethetic for eye surgery? My mother had hers back without lasers, and she had to get that. Her doctor actually had told me when I asked him about it, that it was because if you put Novacaine in the eyes it can seriously ******** your vision up permanantly
Yes, they are in fact illegal for a reason. and Alcohol was illegal for a reason. Let's make caffeine illegal, there is a reason after all, it affects children negatively oftentimes, and in some cases, can cause serious problems such as seizures(Like a friend I had in elementary school named Joel went through one on the slide cuz his parents let him have coffee every morning at age cool Let's make sugar illegal, it can kill children who are diabetic, if they abuse it cuz they love the taste or the rush it gives. Let's make chocolate illegal for the fact it has caffiene, and it works on the brin in similar ways to morphine, only with the natural endorphines of your brain. Let's make tobacco illegal, I can't say I'd miss that. Let's make ALL drugs of any kind illegal, doctor needed or no, they can be abused if they fall into the wrong hands. In the end, plenty of things can be abused, these drugs just are more easily distributed to those who would abuse them, than others like, say, nitrous oxide, or other stuff that isn't easily gotten outside of an operating room. You nhave to remember, just because there is a reason for something to be illegal, or legalized for that matter, doesn't mean that it should. There are many who still to this day believe alcohol should have remained illegal for good reasons, and many who wish tobacco to be illegal for good reasons. And the fact also remains that, illegal or not, peopel will still abuse them, and by making them illegal, you just bring the usage and distribution underground, thereby making the scene worse, by allowing stuff to pass by in secret, peopel can become more affected, more lives can be destroyed, and it is not a good thing. Take prohibition, for example. When alcohol was outlawed, what happened? It went underground, peopel still used it, and mroe peopel than ever used it just for the fact that it was "Illegal" and things got bad. People brewed their own stuff because it could nto be bought easily. That in turn led to plenty of bad things, like death and such due to poisoning vfrom unsanitary or im[proper brewing methods, among other things. Which was a big reason alcohol was legalized again, due to the fact that, by making it legal beyond a certain age in controlled restricted amounts and such, it reduced the problems associated with it, by, for one, eliminating the need for it to be home brewed with possibly deadly results and reducing the amount of traficing of the stuff. Of coruse, the fact that it has age and quantity restrictions, gives people reasons till, to break liquor laws; underaged peopel get others who are of age to buy alcohol for them, or use fake IDs. Alcoholics go to multiple stores to buy more than alloted quantities. Rules are made for good reasons, but oftentimes, rules are broken for the simple fact that they are rules. Such is the flaw of human nature, the need to defy authority for one's own self-satisfaction, or something. Who know,s everybody is different, one persons motives may differ extremely in the same course of action. Either way, I personally could care less int he end about drugs, as I don't need them or want them. If Marijuana is legalized, oh well, peopel ahve been doing it behind the law for all this time anyway, not like legalizing it will change much. I have seen people who drive down the road smoking blunts, peopel who live in an apartment acrosss the street from the police station who's apartment stinks of weed so bad you can smell it from that same police station. And they get away with it too. Corruption also doesn't help, while some John doe who lives in poverty and does weed to escape his sorry excuse for a life, some bigwig corporate genius sits in his mansion smoking a pipe of quality weed, and gets away with it all because he has money to pay off anyone who may pose a threat, or because he has influences in the government or judicial system. In the end, and it is a sad truth, corruption completely ruins the usefulness of rules and laws, and there really isn't much that can be done about it. It;s an imperfect world; deal with it.
Wow, sorry, I guess I got carried away again, you guys know how I can get when my philosophical mind gets into gear. I made that Olivia post to stem a nice little twist, if you would go along with it Ryu, I am sure it could prove to be quite an interesting turn of events
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:21 pm
Holy wall of text...
Dood, they'd never make Caffine illegal. Speaking as a coffee drinking since the age of 4, I would revolt, and overturn the goverment if such a thing happens.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:33 pm
In the eyes of corruption(And ALL government is corrupt, it is the nature of governement to become corrupt) that really doesn't matter. Why do you think Cigarettes have never been seriously targeted for being made illegal? Because of corruption. Because, big tobacco companies would lose money, as as money rules everything in a corrupt society, it makes the decisions. Which, yes, is the reaosn caffiene will never be illegal, too much money would be lost, too much hassle from people who supply and rake in the big bucks for those corrupt individuals who make the big decisions for us. Because we don't have money, so we don't deserve to make the decisions for ourselves. Because to do so would be wrong.
Unfortunately, even though government is corrupt, and is bad itself, so in itself is anarchy. Withotu government to uphold it's ideas of peace and what is rigth, peopel would be absolutely free to do whatever, and in the end, everyone would die. Human nature would allow peopel to kill themselves off. In the end, Human nature is to blame, the imperfection of society, for the vices of the world today, and there is nothign that ever can or will be done about it.
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Trashy Cinnabon Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:36 pm
All this over a dope head cyborg, wow.
Anyways, I will be interested to see how she takes Bardok's words. Bardok has never been known to hold back his true thoughts, nor to put them nicely.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:37 pm
I meant as a form of loose medical treatment. Morphine is highly regulated and used as the strongest coca based topical anesthetic. But the normal person can't get it unless they're dying from bone cancer.
You're right every drug can be abused. But some warrant different regulations. Does caffeine make your heart explode like cocaine does? No. Does t make you hallucinate like weed does? No. It actually makes the majority of the people of this world concentrating better and heightens reaction. The only reason the Coca leaf did that was because it to contains caffeine. But that's also covered up by the fact that it's leaf is a powerful narcotic.
Not gonna read all of that. So lets just drop this pointless debate. Illegal drugs are stupid and pointless wastes of life. In my view, alcohol is too. Which is why I would rather life sober and not get killed by someone who wasn't sober.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:42 pm
On the alcohol thing, that's why I instruct strict rules about it when it comes to myself, and those who decide to drink with me.
1. No drinking past a buzz. Seriously, atleast at a buzz, I am able to think properly, and my movement is still decent.
2. No leaving the house, or what ever area we drink at, till the effects are gone. I don't want to take the chances of something happening, even when someone is just buzzin.
3. You drink, I steal your keys and hide them better then a squirle would. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
I got a few others, but the concept is there
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:46 pm
All governments have some form of corruption and hypocrisy. Anarchy is the utmost ultimate form of hypocrisy there is. Another nice thought that gets splattered on the roadside of reality, like a blind cat on the freeway. Just like Markism.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:50 pm
Speaking of that blind cat: 
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