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 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:18 pm
Vikki Stardust DarkElf27 Lady Blodwynn Back on topic, those Elysians? Are they for sale? emotion_awesome Trying to get him to drop his last 40k project? surprised For shame! Its an inside joke, theres another forum he frequents a lot where they found out about his Elysians, leading to a horde of peeps constantly PMing him about the status of his army and for how much he'd sell it to them. More than once he had to ask the mods to suspend some of these people for their constant pestering. emotion_awesome Nice, everyone jumping on the Elysian wagon after they realized its advantages in a flyer-heavy army?
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:12 am
DarkElf27 Vikki Stardust DarkElf27 Lady Blodwynn Back on topic, those Elysians? Are they for sale? emotion_awesome Trying to get him to drop his last 40k project? surprised For shame! Its an inside joke, theres another forum he frequents a lot where they found out about his Elysians, leading to a horde of peeps constantly PMing him about the status of his army and for how much he'd sell it to them. More than once he had to ask the mods to suspend some of these people for their constant pestering. emotion_awesome Nice, everyone jumping on the Elysian wagon after they realized its advantages in a flyer-heavy army? This all happened years before the 6th edition hit, or even before there was a shiny new Imperial Guard codex with plastic Valkyries. Just a load of folk who wanted to score cheap Elysians. xd
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:41 am
Lady Blodwynn DarkElf27 Vikki Stardust DarkElf27 Lady Blodwynn Back on topic, those Elysians? Are they for sale? emotion_awesome Trying to get him to drop his last 40k project? surprised For shame! Its an inside joke, theres another forum he frequents a lot where they found out about his Elysians, leading to a horde of peeps constantly PMing him about the status of his army and for how much he'd sell it to them. More than once he had to ask the mods to suspend some of these people for their constant pestering. emotion_awesome Nice, everyone jumping on the Elysian wagon after they realized its advantages in a flyer-heavy army? This all happened years before the 6th edition hit, or even before there was a shiny new Imperial Guard codex with plastic Valkyries. Just a load of folk who wanted to score cheap Elysians. xd Special price for you: £1000
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:03 am
Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn DarkElf27 Vikki Stardust DarkElf27 Lady Blodwynn Back on topic, those Elysians? Are they for sale? emotion_awesome Trying to get him to drop his last 40k project? surprised For shame! Its an inside joke, theres another forum he frequents a lot where they found out about his Elysians, leading to a horde of peeps constantly PMing him about the status of his army and for how much he'd sell it to them. More than once he had to ask the mods to suspend some of these people for their constant pestering. emotion_awesome Nice, everyone jumping on the Elysian wagon after they realized its advantages in a flyer-heavy army? This all happened years before the 6th edition hit, or even before there was a shiny new Imperial Guard codex with plastic Valkyries. Just a load of folk who wanted to score cheap Elysians. xd Special price for you: £1000 All of it? The whole lot?
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:08 am
Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn DarkElf27 Vikki Stardust Its an inside joke, theres another forum he frequents a lot where they found out about his Elysians, leading to a horde of peeps constantly PMing him about the status of his army and for how much he'd sell it to them. More than once he had to ask the mods to suspend some of these people for their constant pestering. emotion_awesome Nice, everyone jumping on the Elysian wagon after they realized its advantages in a flyer-heavy army? This all happened years before the 6th edition hit, or even before there was a shiny new Imperial Guard codex with plastic Valkyries. Just a load of folk who wanted to score cheap Elysians. xd Special price for you: £1000 All of it? The whole lot? Yes, everything.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:52 am
Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn DarkElf27 Vikki Stardust Its an inside joke, theres another forum he frequents a lot where they found out about his Elysians, leading to a horde of peeps constantly PMing him about the status of his army and for how much he'd sell it to them. More than once he had to ask the mods to suspend some of these people for their constant pestering. emotion_awesome Nice, everyone jumping on the Elysian wagon after they realized its advantages in a flyer-heavy army? This all happened years before the 6th edition hit, or even before there was a shiny new Imperial Guard codex with plastic Valkyries. Just a load of folk who wanted to score cheap Elysians. xd Special price for you: £1000 All of it? The whole lot? Yes, everything. Wait, does this also include the Imperial Armour book and shipping?
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:54 am
Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn This all happened years before the 6th edition hit, or even before there was a shiny new Imperial Guard codex with plastic Valkyries. Just a load of folk who wanted to score cheap Elysians. xd Special price for you: £1000 All of it? The whole lot? Yes, everything. Wait, does this also include the Imperial Armour book and shipping? No.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:00 am
Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn This all happened years before the 6th edition hit, or even before there was a shiny new Imperial Guard codex with plastic Valkyries. Just a load of folk who wanted to score cheap Elysians. xd Special price for you: £1000 All of it? The whole lot? Yes, everything. Wait, does this also include the Imperial Armour book and shipping? No. I hate dealing with Forge World.. talk2hand
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:57 pm
Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn All of it? The whole lot? Yes, everything. Wait, does this also include the Imperial Armour book and shipping? No. I hate dealing with Forge World.. talk2hand I just hate that you cant get traitor bits from standard GW sad curse you and your expensive resin bits forgeworld! curse youuuu!!
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:59 pm
Darkweaver66 Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn All of it? The whole lot? Yes, everything. Wait, does this also include the Imperial Armour book and shipping? No. I hate dealing with Forge World.. talk2hand I just hate that you cant get traitor bits from standard GW sad curse you and your expensive resin bits forgeworld! curse youuuu!! Cast your own. ninja
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:05 am
Vikki Stardust Darkweaver66 Lady Blodwynn Vikki Stardust Lady Blodwynn emotion_dowant Wait, does this also include the Imperial Armour book and shipping? No. I hate dealing with Forge World.. talk2hand I just hate that you cant get traitor bits from standard GW sad curse you and your expensive resin bits forgeworld! curse youuuu!! Cast your own. ninja swear i already replied to this... okay fair point, but I already used all the decent ones, so I need more to get casting again! plus standard lasguns are awkwardly thin, let alone FW's resin Autoguns sad sad rob.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:20 pm
Since you attracted me here. I know how the numbers work. I am trying to avoid it, though, being IG still makes it nearly impossible to avoid it. That is why I preferred the more Armor oriented IG. And if possible, mechanized.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:23 pm
Sooo the use of Vets and Storm troopers versus the use of basic Infantry Squads. Go! Edit: Whoops! Too late. steelunit Since you attracted me here. I know how the numbers work. I am trying to avoid it, though, being IG still makes it nearly impossible to avoid it. That is why I preferred the more Armor oriented IG. And if possible, mechanized. I don't much like using transports, simply because it denies the troops opportunities to fire, I generally like defensive lines and letting the enemy charge into a hedge of overwhelming fire. More troops, more guns, and lots of opportunity to include special weapons.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:43 pm
DarkElf27 Sooo the use of Vets and Storm troopers versus the use of basic Infantry Squads. Go! Edit: Whoops! Too late. steelunit Since you attracted me here. I know how the numbers work. I am trying to avoid it, though, being IG still makes it nearly impossible to avoid it. That is why I preferred the more Armor oriented IG. And if possible, mechanized. I don't much like using transports, simply because it denies the troops opportunities to fire, I generally like defensive lines and letting the enemy charge into a hedge of overwhelming fire. More troops, more guns, and lots of opportunity to include special weapons. Who said that I would just make them mobile? Transport = Extra Hvy Weapons Team with a Squad. I can have a defensive force, using Chimeras as Bunker support. Its a trick I learned. Be a Defensive force that can mobilize into a Offense force immediately. Hint why I stick with the Vets and Storm-troopers more than regulars Soldiers.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:47 am
Either side of the coin has its pros and cons. Going fodder heavy can make you rather slow moving, or turn you into a massive static gun line, which while befitting of the Imperial Guard will not win you games unless you plan on denying the enemy objectives through excessive use of fire power. All-infantry leaf-blowers, haven't seen those as of yet.
Going heavy on the veterans and pricey Storm Troopers can leave you outnumbered and most certainly outgunned, but as mentioned, transports can do a lot to make them a wee bit more survivable. But in the end, they are still I3 chaps with lasguns for the most part, BS4 or not, a lasgun can only do so much against most opponents you face. Granted, Hellguns have AP3, but lack the strength and range sadly.
With my old army I preferred the combined approach myself: Two platoons with teeth to bite into the enemy backed by a few tanks with some special units on the side for nabbing objectives, something a Valkyrie-borne squad is ideal for. Or just go with a penal squad or two, cheap, sometimes effective if your roll is good and well, they are troops, so they can hold onto objectives.
My current airborne army, is more of a hopefully proper shock and awe tactic, where you roll onto the table from one side with wave after wave of flyers, strafe the crap out of the enemy and drop your troops in when they have the best chance of survival. Not much success thus far, as I need to rely an awful lot of the fire power of my birds to win.
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