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That should work fine, I'll start brainstorming ideas today in Wordpad and keep the file on my desktop so I don't forget.

Edit: Would it be possible for me to get access to the last thread where I first joined up?

As it is I can set up the Tournament almost entirely. I have been the founder and creator of roughly 8 fully functioning Arena's So it will be canon in design nothing to major like warping environments and special stuff.
Merely skill vs skill with environmental changes. Such as element arenas to tight enclosed mazes.

I have full set's of NPC announcers which I will likely use this adds flavor and realism to the Arena's

My evil character I can explain later but I believe those working on the story should know those for the most part. My question is are we taking all types of characters such as Naruto and Bleach based seeing as there are a lot more of those styles out there now than previously as well. I'm wondering cause within the next few days I intend to make a fron page for this Tournament. If I'm right this tournament will be held in Barton Town no? Since I volunteered I was kinda put in charge of the tourny lol



Oh sheiz how many competitors should we limit this tournament too?

Also to limit the fight times should we limit posts say 20 posts per fight. If so then will we have three judges judge matches so that they can be voted on vitory based on performance. Unless the fight actually finishes than merely the reviews are put in?


http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/barton-ooc/idea-building-for-a-tournament/t.78694719/

Here's what I got for my idea.


These are the dark things even your nightmares dread. They are the gibbering in your dreams, maddening cacophony that robs sanity in sweet, mocking tones. They are the promises of eldritch knowledge and power, in exchange for unspeakable deeds. They are the shadows in the cold winter night, terrorizing villages and hamlets in the far reaches of the world. They are the beings from a world that sits on the outskirts of reality, balancing on the line between sleep and death. It is where all the nightmarish aspects of our imagination converge to revel in their horror and make merry in their often violent fun. They exist everywhere and nowhere, lying just below the surface. It pulsates in the ground under your feet. It hides in the mist beneath a cliff edge. It resonates in every tree, every glass, every time you close your eyes. It is here but not here, open and closed. Only accessible to those who try and look, but fail to see their greatness.

The Devils of Paradise come in many different forms, from child described monsters under the bed to homicidal humanoids lurking in the shadows. Some are mindless scare machines, others are merely playing the roles they've been given. A few want to help – more want to hinder. Each follows their own individual set of rules that twist and loophole continuously as they work on their orders from the royal family. They can choose to be seen but some prefer to stay hidden and only show themselves to those they feel are worthy or when they need to step into battle, but if anyone were to venture onto their territory they will meet a very grizzly demise.

Okay, so their race is known as The Devils of Paradise. Not much is known about them because they made it that way, so whenever someone met one they would say they were "A mere bad figment of your imagination and an overseer when there's work to be done."

The Devils are an ancient race that have been around long before the rulers of heaven and hell and have always worked in the background. Munipulating events, the outcome of battles, keeping conflict going, and even deciding who would rule what. However, no devil can just do what they want, they have to report to the Royal Family.

This is all I have right now.

I suppose the power range of the tournament should be on a Naruto level. There are some absurd and ridiculous abilities but they aren't too much.

A 32 count roster would be great. 2 weeks for posting instead of 20 posts. Some people wouldn't give up, literally if it killed them IC.

I could throw some stage ideas at you too if you want 'em.

I have no problem changing things to fit HvH.
I'll rethink my idea and talk to Dante about his idea and see if we can come up with something that will work.

Ummmm...Wow. I do not know who to respond to first.


This is far more than I could have ever expected and hoped for. Thank you guys, it's good to see everything running again.

Since their is a lot going on, I'm going to address it by topic, not by specific person.


@Tournament. It would be cool to have something like this: Semi-Finals are placed in Heaven and Hell, respectively. We go all out and describe what it looks like. Meanwhile, those of us with characters are role playing being in the audience. Simple things and setups to attract attention and get people interested. Like two characters taking bets on who's going to win, and the fight the loser starts from there.

More or less, my aim would be to Rp interestingly enough during the fight (But in a non-obtrusive manner) to develop some sort of sub-plot that is based off of the winners of the semi-finals (with that sub-plot carrying onwards to the finals) that would encourage people to join.

Also, the final area needs to be some special and Iconic about our HvH universe. Something that will set it apart and get people intrigued. Backgrounds are often ignored in tournaments, so this will be hard to do with out making it obtrusive. In the past, this has been: Hell (HvH2), Heaven (HvH3), and the Moon (HvH4)...But considering what I'm suggesting for our Semi-Finals, that is not good enough. I don't know what it is, but I'm just trying to generate ideas and show past history.

In regards to the post/time limit: I say both, whichever comes first. You have 20 post to beat them, victory will be determined by three judges if you run out. Also, you have 2 weeks to finish the fight or the judges step in and announce the winner. This keeps fights moving swiftly, as 20 posts is not alot to get a kill shot in and 2 weeks is a short amount of time to fight in. Plus, 20 posts make it easier for the judges to judge...Rather than 300+ posts (I've seen it happen in tournaments with large cash prizes...2 week time span, and somehow those fighters post up to 300+ times each. Ridiculous? Yes, very. Frustrating to judge? One of the few times I've quit judging position due to the amount of work required.)

And as for limitations on power: Naruto/Bleach levels seem best, with Bleach being a bit on the high scale. (Eizen was a God...Pain was not. Point is that I see Bleach having a higher power scale due to an actual God appearing. Not knocking either of the series...Let's not get into this.)

Just because it usually encourages the better Rpers, we should hold a rule of only Original characters aloud. And as for what races...Well, see what I've got to say about that further down.

@Gods: To me, it works best if we don't use Satan and God, but a multi-pantheon. As many gods as we can, with some sort of shadowy over-deity implied for Heaven and Hell, respectively. It's not about stepping on anyone's toes: Quite frankly, I don't give a s**t about who we offend with this Rp. It's that Satan and God are in our everyday lives, and are thus mundane. We want fantasy. We need fantasy. Let's reflect that with our Gods being Fantastical.

If you give me about 2 weeks, I might be able to dig up/churn out some custom made deities I have that would go well here. I've got a couple, and think I could round out the list.


@Raphael and Inferno: Keep there were they are. As much as I would like to play Raphael again (And trust me, I REALLY DO!) you can not have one without the other. They are a balancing force. And I don't think Inferno is ever going to Role play again. At least, not anytime soon.

Plus, they are Uber-Powerful at this point. It would take all of Heaven and Hell combined to take down one of them. Both? Ain't happening anytime soon. It's more intriguing to just keep them as the whispered rumors that scare Heaven and Hell's leaders, rather than putting them in plain sight. Makes things more suspenseful that way. And if they do come back, it should be something damnably important: Them being there should be "Holy s**t" moment and a sign of something epically huge.

As for Inferno, I'll see if I can buy the Guild off of him or if he will give to me. I don't think he'll be kind enough to make another banner for us, so we are most likely on our own for that. So be it. We'll manage: Anyone here can make/manipulate banners?

And when I do own the Guild, Jilly, I plan on giving it to you. Immediately. I'm saying it right here, right now: Under no circumstances do I want full responsibility for the story and the plot. I just want to provide advice, record HvH, and write background information. I'm very busy trying to become a lawyer, and don't have the time I would like to dedicate to all this. As is, I can only be online Mondays-Fridays when I'm at school. And even then, only for a little bit.



@Character Gods Allowing someone to play is a God is only a little step away from allowing them to God Mod. I do not know where you are getting the idea from, but I do not think I mentioned that in my recent posts. A long time ago, I spoke of it with Draka when I was helping her develop HvH3's plot...But as of now, I do not encourage it.

At best, if we want to do something like that, I support granting someone a "Legends" title...Something essentially signifying that they are Important/Tough/Bad a** enough characters that you should pay attention to what they do. The "Legends" title should be very, very, very limited: Maybe only 4 people can hold "Legends" at a time. It should also be allowed to anyone who earns it, regardless of the side.

How do you earn it:

1)Defeat a Legend. Right now, in my mind, there are only two: Raphael and Inferno. Who are locked away for all eternity in another dimensions. Who are Gods (The end events of Salvation did that, another reason why I think they should stay put.). Best of luck.

2) Defy the plot writers to an extreme extent: Someone who alters the storyline to such an extent that not only do we, the ones who write the plot like it, but are forced to go with it no matter what happens. Example:Inferno, back in HvH2, went into Chaos Mode/Form and actually beat Satan in a 1 on 1. Or Raphael, back in HvH 3, who singlehandedly held off and won against all of the then current Hell Rpers, as Lannerkin duked it out with Kikyo possessed by Satan.

Awesome? I think so. But damn, Inferno and I really screwed over Kikyo's plans that day, and she had to think for a bit before everything got back on track.

3) Age. Inferno and Raphael (Not to make them sound awesome, not the point to be gushing at the mouth here. I just know those two characters the best.) are Legends not just because of the things they have done, but because they have survived HvH 2, HvH 3, HvH 4, and technically HvH 5. That's 3 1/2 Roleplays, lasting 10+ years. I would like to think that qualifies for something.

4. And finally, Combat: By doing a feat of Combat so awesome (like the two given earlier) the title must be bestowed upon them.


But that's about as much as I would support. If it sounds like a good idea, we can go into more details latter.





@Chaos. Holy s**t. yes. Yes. YES!!! All that fighting by such superior powers using so much magic and highly advanced technology, has bound to have caused something to ******** up along the lines. Some magical Ley Line to get twisted or a Trans-Dimensional device to malfunction...Point being, I could easily see something of Chaos dimension or whatever being created/tapped into/what have you. And things are coming out of it. Not nice things.

Or maybe the planet Earth itself is tired of all the fighting that takes place there, and as a "reflex" of sorts, has developed an immune system and it's spawning these chaos creatures to deal with HvH problem.


One thing I will have to say, is that no matter what we think of, I think Raphael and Inferno's imprisonment should be separate from this. Have it be something totally different and leave them untouched, as they are. If anything, take the time to completely and totally describe every detail of the doors that are keeping them imprisoned. Make them interesting, make them something odd-Make people curious and want to investigate them.

That and overall, whatever other "realm" we add, it needs to not be another Shadow Realm. I took care of that in HvH4. And that's the last one. 3 realms that are playable: Heave, Hell, and Earth. No more. Potentially less twisted The "Chaos Realm" has no leader, no organization, and nothing to it. It's just there. It exists. And it's sole purpose is to spawn problems, and those problems are the focus, not the realm itself.




@Restrictions and Changes: Because we must develop a Lore and a World, that means we need to decide on a theme. As in, what dictates what in our Role play. And to that extent, we are going to have restrictions.

I want to keep this fairly open: That's what've I liked about it the most, when things are open and you can have all sorts of Rpers rping whatever they like. But if we do redefine the Guild, and ultimately, the Rp, we have to place some restrictions on it so we can make it damn good.

So, Mr. Smart-Pants-Clearly-Has-Been-Around-Way-Too-Long-Know-It-All, what do you recommend:

Why thanks Griff, I thought you'd never ask. I think HvH 5 would work best as a High-Fantasy Futuristic Degraded Dungeon-Punk sort of theme. By that, I mean:

High-Fantasy: Naruto-Like Power Levels. Magic is very prevalent; trolls, ogres, orcs, elves, demons, angels, devils...Can be interacted with on a daily basis. Quests and plots are epic in scale and size, Good Vs Evil is highly emphasized, Heroes and Villains abound. Think Lord of The Rings.

Futuristic Degraded: A setting in which the Golden Years are long past, and there is not much left for the foreseeable future. As time marches on, more and more information is lost and society is regressing as a whole back to primitive means. But primitive means with modernistic technology that is slowly failing them and the have no way to replace/ Warhammer 40k is a good example.

Dungeon-Punk: If Steam Punk is imitating our current technology using steam, Dungeon-Punk is imitating our current Technology by using Magic. It takes Clarke's Law and implodes it by saying: Magic is Technology, Technology is Magic. My prime example here would be Ebberons Steam-Run train that uses the power of a Elder Fire Elemental and Elder Water Elemental to generate the steam needed to power the train; which, of course, runs on tracks made of pure magical essence.

Put it all together: Because of all the fights through 5,000+ years of HvH time (It should be year 5000, if Jilly kept the theme and each HvH is just 1000 years after the last one) Earth has been ravaged and destroyed beyond salvation. Populations are scant, technology can vary from one place to another at the highest extremes: there might be a city of Gnomes that have a jetson's like dome somewhere in the atmosphere, while there is a tribe of Elves that have gone feral and fight each other with sharpened sticks. What technology there is, is fading away as fast as the population is, as the information slowly becomes lost forever. Survival is more important than scholarship. Superstition is creeping back into peoples lives, instead of the acknowledgement and understand the general populace once had about Heaven or Hell. Even some aspects of Heaven and Hell are becoming myth. Understanding, on the whole, is becoming muddled.

Heaven and Hell seem to be ignoring the problem, as Magic still works for them. And since they never adopted technology in the first place, it never bothered Heaven or Hell that technological rot is creeping in. Even though Higher Scale Magic is becoming increasingly taxing to use, as with support of Billions of Mortals (At this point, I say it's safe to say earth's population is in the 100 thousand, maybe even millions. But no more than 50 million.) life force contributing to the Grand Ley Lines of Magic, there is not as much to go around as their used to be. Individuals are forced to tap into their own life force for anything bigger than a fireball. Wizards are gone: either destroyed or have gone undergone, as a Wizard's powers are earned, not inherit. And there is nothing left for a mortal wizard to earn.

Artifacts are losing power, for one reason or thee other: You mind find a mortal using a Ring of Long-Distance teleport to power their car so they can drive to work, as there is no gasoline any more. Dragons have either died or fled to another plane, there is a risk of the Grand Magical Ley Lines eating your soul when you die, if Heaven and Hell aren't paying attention and come to claim you, Etc, etc, etc...I think you all get the picture?

I hope so, cause that's how I picture HvH 5.

And to that extent, the limitations on Races should be your standard Fantasy races: Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Orces, Half-Breeds of those sorts...Angels, Demons, and Devils. Keep it simple. And we can get it to work. To help keep this Rp free, although, I think we should allow someone to submit something to us or ask a question. And if we think it fits with the Theme, then we should allow them to use it.

@Regarding the Tournament, again: I just had an Idea: The tournament not only be for prizes, but as a chance for a Mortal to ascend to Angelhood and descend to Demonhood. Whomever each side deems worthy enough is offered that chance. Doesn't always have to be the winner, just who which side sees fit.

It could be interesting and could easily get another person or two in this Roleplay, as we could have recruiters for both sides roleplay with them in an attempt to get them to sign up.

Also, it would give you a justification for the rules: Mortals only, of the Non-Angelic, Non-Demon type listed above. Just to help keep the power levels down and kick start making interesting characters.

@Story: I think alot of the story is missed, as we focus on HvH (Rightfully so, considering the title) and not what effect the fight is doing to the Earth.



@Stories: Send em too me. I'll take a look, and we can get the ball rolling.





@ Epic Post of Doom!!!! Hurrays for Epic Post of DOOM!

We all loves thee wall o' text.

Try not to quote this, please...Gah...I read it once while writing it, I don't need to read it again!


@Jilly and pride: You've got the wrong sin there, Jilly. I'm Greed. Not Pride. I'm doing this so I can practice my professional writing skills. Specifically, my world building skills...I want to see how well I can create a world and make it believable, amongst other things. Gaia works, because here I can post something and then get instant feedback on it. Helps alot in knowing if what I've got is good or not.

Although, I do thank you for the compliment. Honestly, it means something to me...Especially when I think back to all the other people who've worked on this Rp and put way more time in it than I have. That is very touching for you to say.

Wait...Yuyu. Yuyu would be a great level of power for the tournament and a good entry point for new characters. Agreed. I was only making suggestions. I don't know: If possible, make it separate from the HvH universe, but somehow still a part of it...


I might be able to judge. No promises.




And going onto Madara vs Eizen...Madara has God like powers, yes. I give him that. Madara would put up a good fight. However, Eizen actually is a God. As in: I can control and manipulate the universe to my liking as I will, when I will it. Or at least, he was when he "died" (******** cop out of the actual fight...)

Aye, Madara is on the way to becoming a god. Eizen actually was one. Madara is an amazing villain and one of the reasons why that manga is still tolerable (Sorry folks, but I think Naruto as currently running is only as good as it's side characters. I barely pay any attention to Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura), however there is a big difference in attaining the power of a god and actually being a god...That's why I rank Eizen higher in power than Madara.

Although, I will say this: Tobi would pwn both of them and then take a nap. While in the process of pwning both of them at the same time. Because Tobi is a Good Boy! mrgreen