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 Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:29 pm
thunderxtiger Does anybosy like Limdo here? scream his name is Rimudo gonk
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:35 pm
Plum the dragon knight Nikko Kitty Plum the dragon knight I know this was said a really long time ago, but I was digging through the posts and the part I bolded makes me think. I actually disagree with you when you think that when they all died, it gave it realisim. I agree 100% with you that when the main-ish characters die, it makes the story more realistic. However, I think they all died too fast. Most of their deaths had no meaning. Take Hotohori for example. He just rushed at Nakago and died. It wasn't as... *special* as Nuriko's death. Her/his death was more dramatic. hotohori's detah for me was mroe like "Oh, hotohori died. I should cry now. Nah, I have to keep reading" I love Hotohori's character! But that's just me. Yay, that was irrevelant (God, I can't spell today x.x)
Though when I read the Manga before watching the Anime I cried when Nuriko died, but when I watched the anime, I knew that part was coming and I cried even harder into my pillow when he died. sweatdrop
The anime does leave out a lot of stuff compared to the manga though, but when you watched Fushigi Yugi I think you get a better understanding of the other Pristess of the four gods then you did in the manga. I was slightly confused on them in a way because they ddin't put enough detail into it about them. thats what I thought at least. Genbu kaiden helps you understand the story of the very first Pristess of the four gods. they didn't go into much detail about Takiko in FY. I'm slightly scared to read the end of Genbu Kaiden when it comes to the end cause I think it'll end bad from what we heard in Fushigi Yugi...Seriously! The way I read it was beasically liek this: Hotohori: Durh, let me go and try and stab Nakago with my sword in a reckless and not though out manner. Nakago: What the F*** is he doing? *kills hotohori* Hotohori: Umm...whoops I'm dying. Hotohori seemed like such a smart character...but yeah. That sort of reminded me of Miaka's stupidity when she lost the shensto-pou-thingy (I don't remeber exactly what it was called.) I mean seriously, I understand her believeing the Illusion but why would Nakago have sex with her????!!! Had there been no Illusion, and those were the real events, this is what miaka would have expected to happen: Miaka: *walks in to Nakago's tent* Nakago! I have to make love to you to get the -insert name of the thing- back from you! Nakago: *shrugs* Ok! And this is what would have happened: Miaka: *walks in to Nakago's tent* Nakago! I have to make love to you to get the -insert name of the thing- back from you! Nakago: Die, b***h! *kills Miaka* Stupid Charaters. They need some common sense. I didn't see the anime so I wouldn't know. I don't think the ending will be bad. Yuu Watase has a thing with making happy endings, or sorta happy endings. She did say that she was probaly going to change the story from what it said in FY:SS. (Or something like that.) I just hope it's not too corny and unrealistic like in FF:SS. I think I would have to cry (of annoyance, not happiness) if it was...
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:47 pm
I think the whole deal with that rape idea with Nakago and Miaka was, we all know he had no interest in her, but as far as Miaka could see, he was just a cold, heartless, shalow person (I feel dirty saying that about my poor Nakago) so really, if a free piece of arse comes along, why not? Let's face it, the scumbags of the male community, some of them don't mind what the girl looks like so long as he gets some.
In this case, we all know Nakago has standards... standars Miaka in no way, shape or form stand up to.
As for Hotohori's death, he had no powers, Konan was losing the war, as the emperor, he'd have to go down with the ship, why not try a last ditch effort? He actually did a good job when you think about it, no powers, and was still able to wound Nakago. Props to Hotohori for that!
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:02 am
Nakago_Chan I think the whole deal with that rape idea with Nakago and Miaka was, we all know he had no interest in her, but as far as Miaka could see, he was just a cold, heartless, shalow person (I feel dirty saying that about my poor Nakago) so really, if a free piece of arse comes along, why not? Let's face it, the scumbags of the male community, some of them don't mind what the girl looks like so long as he gets some.
In this case, we all know Nakago has standards... standars Miaka in no way, shape or form stand up to.
As for Hotohori's death, he had no powers, Konan was losing the war, as the emperor, he'd have to go down with the ship, why not try a last ditch effort? He actually did a good job when you think about it, no powers, and was still able to wound Nakago. Props to Hotohori for that! Perhaps you're right! But I still Miaka can be very naive at times. And it's good to see some people who don't despise Nakago. He's my second favorite manga character of all time! (Haagasu is my first XD I have no idea why though) I forgot Hotohori had no powers. (I need to re-read those books again...) sweatdrop He did do an ok job, but I still think he should've tried to plan that out alittle bit better. Maybe he and another soldier should have tried to attack Nakago at once (?) Poor poor Hotohori.... crying
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:08 am
Starlight_Goddess thunderxtiger Does anybosy like Limdo here? scream his name is Rimudo gonk Most people love Uruki/Rimudo here. I just LOVE haagasu more xd -is such a fangirl-
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:04 am
Plum the dragon knight Nakago_Chan I think the whole deal with that rape idea with Nakago and Miaka was, we all know he had no interest in her, but as far as Miaka could see, he was just a cold, heartless, shalow person (I feel dirty saying that about my poor Nakago) so really, if a free piece of arse comes along, why not? Let's face it, the scumbags of the male community, some of them don't mind what the girl looks like so long as he gets some.
In this case, we all know Nakago has standards... standars Miaka in no way, shape or form stand up to.
As for Hotohori's death, he had no powers, Konan was losing the war, as the emperor, he'd have to go down with the ship, why not try a last ditch effort? He actually did a good job when you think about it, no powers, and was still able to wound Nakago. Props to Hotohori for that! Perhaps you're right! But I still Miaka can be very naive at times. And it's good to see some people who don't despise Nakago. He's my second favorite manga character of all time! (Haagasu is my first XD I have no idea why though) I forgot Hotohori had no powers. (I need to re-read those books again...) sweatdrop He did do an ok job, but I still think he should've tried to plan that out alittle bit better. Maybe he and another soldier should have tried to attack Nakago at once (?) Poor poor Hotohori.... crying
I think the main reason Hotohori didin't really make a plan was he panicked. Nakago, if I remember correctly had just mentioned that he was going to go to Miaka's world. Hotohori probably saw that as his only chance to try and stop Nakago, plus just the thought of something happening to Miaka probably made him jump. Look at how many times Tamahome did something stupid because he panicked about Miaka's saftey
If you can't tell, Nakago is my favorite character. The main reason why Rimudo is now my next favorite is, Rimudo remindes me a lot of Nakago... he's kind of like what Nakago could have been if he had a friend on his side from the start, and met someone he could love a lot sooner. Because both of them started off the same after a pretty traumatic start, both blaming themselfs for the death of a parent (Nakago - his mom, Rimudo - Tawur - his "adoptive father") and most initially only intended to use their Seshi power as a means to get revenge. Only difference is Rimudo still had Souren and eventually met Takiko who he decided to use his powers to protect her.
...and, when you think about it, Nakago was always described as being so pretty he could pass for a girl, and Rimudo can turn into a girl... very similar xd
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:56 pm
Nakago_Chan Plum the dragon knight Perhaps you're right! But I still Miaka can be very naive at times. And it's good to see some people who don't despise Nakago. He's my second favorite manga character of all time! (Haagasu is my first XD I have no idea why though) I forgot Hotohori had no powers. (I need to re-read those books again...) sweatdrop He did do an ok job, but I still think he should've tried to plan that out alittle bit better. Maybe he and another soldier should have tried to attack Nakago at once (?) Poor poor Hotohori.... crying
I think the main reason Hotohori didin't really make a plan was he panicked. Nakago, if I remember correctly had just mentioned that he was going to go to Miaka's world. Hotohori probably saw that as his only chance to try and stop Nakago, plus just the thought of something happening to Miaka probably made him jump. Look at how many times Tamahome did something stupid because he panicked about Miaka's saftey
If you can't tell, Nakago is my favorite character. The main reason why Rimudo is now my next favorite is, Rimudo remindes me a lot of Nakago... he's kind of like what Nakago could have been if he had a friend on his side from the start, and met someone he could love a lot sooner. Because both of them started off the same after a pretty traumatic start, both blaming themselfs for the death of a parent (Nakago - his mom, Rimudo - Tawur - his "adoptive father") and most initially only intended to use their Seshi power as a means to get revenge. Only difference is Rimudo still had Souren and eventually met Takiko who he decided to use his powers to protect her.Yeah, Miaka was definitly sheltered. That could explain why she was so immature with her relationship with Tamahome. Even though Hotohori probaly did panic, I still thought it was careless of him. The same with Tamahome. I think its a little un-realistic, but then again, I've never been deeply in love so i wouldn't know. I'm also intolerant towards people who are reckless. sweatdrop Which brings me too Nakago. One of the main reasons why i love him (besides his amazing looks) is that everything he did was careful executed. Sure, he was cocky sometimes, but he knew he could get away with it. He definitly tried to avoid any unnecessary risks. I agree with what you said, except with one thing. Rimudo and Nakago are very much alike, except how they deal with their feelings. Because Rimudo fell in love with Takiko, it sort of goofed up his plan. Nakago did indeed love Soi (Her death proved that) but he never let that get in his way. (Or maybe he didn't love her until she died) Of course, that's probaly because Nakago never had a friend during his time of need, thus making him cold and heartless. So yeah, you probaly are right. Like I said, that's pretty much why I love Nakago. I don't know why I like Haagasu so much. I know it's definitly because he has long hair and is a villian. (I have a thing for guys with longish hair and are -evil-) Maybe it's also because he's very mysterious and not completely -evil.- (He saved those kids. *fangirl squeal*) He can kick some arse too with a really big sword! Yay swords that are oversized! heart Wow, I rambled for a while...
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:27 pm
Plum the dragon knight Yeah, Miaka was definitly sheltered. That could explain why she was so immature with her relationship with Tamahome. Even though Hotohori probaly did panic, I still thought it was careless of him. The same with Tamahome. I think its a little un-realistic, but then again, I've never been deeply in love so i wouldn't know. I'm also intolerant towards people who are reckless. sweatdrop Which brings me too Nakago. One of the main reasons why i love him (besides his amazing looks) is that everything he did was careful executed. Sure, he was cocky sometimes, but he knew he could get away with it. He definitly tried to avoid any unnecessary risks. I agree with what you said, except with one thing. Rimudo and Nakago are very much alike, except how they deal with their feelings. Because Rimudo fell in love with Takiko, it sort of goofed up his plan. Nakago did indeed love Soi (Her death proved that) but he never let that get in his way. (Or maybe he didn't love her until she died) Of course, that's probaly because Nakago never had a friend during his time of need, thus making him cold and heartless. So yeah, you probaly are right. Like I said, that's pretty much why I love Nakago. I don't know why I like Haagasu so much. I know it's definitly because he has long hair and is a villian. (I have a thing for guys with longish hair and are -evil-) Maybe it's also because he's very mysterious and not completely -evil.- (He saved those kids. *fangirl squeal*) He can kick some arse too with a really big sword! Yay swords that are oversized! heart Wow, I rambled for a while...
He pushed Soir away much like how Rimudo tried to do when he first met Takiko. Difference is, the circumstances of when Nakago first met Soi, he was already in the military and he couldin't just go running off with Soi. And he did not see her again for many years. Perhaps if she was able to stay by his side from the time they first met to when FY started, he would have been a different person.
Hagassu is an interesting character too. As of right now, I don't know enough about him to really make a full judgement on him. But as it stands right now, I don't really see him as a villan. I almost get the impression that he's being forced to carry out his orders. He doesin't really want to... it's almost like something really bad will happen to him, or someone he cares about if he doesin't. The other thing is, mabey it's just me, but I find he looks a lot like Souren and I"m currious if that was intentional or not.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:22 pm
Nakago_Chan Plum the dragon knight Yeah, Miaka was definitly sheltered. That could explain why she was so immature with her relationship with Tamahome. Even though Hotohori probaly did panic, I still thought it was careless of him. The same with Tamahome. I think its a little un-realistic, but then again, I've never been deeply in love so i wouldn't know. I'm also intolerant towards people who are reckless. sweatdrop Which brings me too Nakago. One of the main reasons why i love him (besides his amazing looks) is that everything he did was careful executed. Sure, he was cocky sometimes, but he knew he could get away with it. He definitly tried to avoid any unnecessary risks. I agree with what you said, except with one thing. Rimudo and Nakago are very much alike, except how they deal with their feelings. Because Rimudo fell in love with Takiko, it sort of goofed up his plan. Nakago did indeed love Soi (Her death proved that) but he never let that get in his way. (Or maybe he didn't love her until she died) Of course, that's probaly because Nakago never had a friend during his time of need, thus making him cold and heartless. So yeah, you probaly are right. Like I said, that's pretty much why I love Nakago. I don't know why I like Haagasu so much. I know it's definitly because he has long hair and is a villian. (I have a thing for guys with longish hair and are -evil-) Maybe it's also because he's very mysterious and not completely -evil.- (He saved those kids. *fangirl squeal*) He can kick some arse too with a really big sword! Yay swords that are oversized! heart Wow, I rambled for a while...
He pushed Soir away much like how Rimudo tried to do when he first met Takiko. Difference is, the circumstances of when Nakago first met Soi, he was already in the military and he couldin't just go running off with Soi. And he did not see her again for many years. Perhaps if she was able to stay by his side from the time they first met to when FY started, he would have been a different person.
Hagassu is an interesting character too. As of right now, I don't know enough about him to really make a full judgement on him. But as it stands right now, I don't really see him as a villan. I almost get the impression that he's being forced to carry out his orders. He doesin't really want to... it's almost like something really bad will happen to him, or someone he cares about if he doesin't. The other thing is, mabey it's just me, but I find he looks a lot like Souren and I"m currious if that was intentional or not. *shrugs* I don't know if Nakago had feelings or not towards Soi in the begining. His atittude towards her was indifferent and uncaring. But when she died, he definitly did stop caring about his life. He even didn't block Tamahome's attack to let himself die and then told us why. Poor guy, nothing to love in the world... crying Even if he wasn't in the military, I doubt he would have ran off with Soi. He doesn't seem like the type of person. I agree with you on that though. Haagasu doesn't seem like a true villian. Take shigi for example. Shigi would slaugter an entire village without losing a smile for no reason. He did kill the Augur (I'm not sure how to spell her name) without a moment's hesitation. Haagasu, on the other hand, seems like he's only concerned with killing uruki/rimudo. If he was truly evil, he would try killing all the Seishi. Maybe his blindness has to something to do with why he's on the "evil" side? Like something in the past caused him too lose his sight, or the emperor knows a way to restore it and will only help him if he kills Urkuki/Rimudo. This is just a guess but I think the story might go alittle something like that: Takiko gathers all/most/some of the Seishi, but one dies before Genbu is summoned. Because Anlu (I only know her translated name) said they're were eight Seishi, they'll try looking for the eigth. The trail will lead them to Haagasu and they'll have to "convert" him to there side. (Basically something like that) Haagasu can absorb The Seishi's powers. I doubt Yuu Watase did that without a deeper meaning then to just make a strong "villian". Speakin of Haagasu, I'm attempting a CG chibi of him @_@ His clothes are so freakin' annoying, and there are no reference pictures so I can see what colors his lothes are!!! gonk I'm going to try a Nakago picture one day...
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:26 pm
Plum the dragon knight *shrugs* I don't know if Nakago had feelings or not towards Soi in the begining. His atittude towards her was indifferent and uncaring. But when she died, he definitly did stop caring about his life. He even didn't block Tamahome's attack to let himself die and then told us why. Poor guy, nothing to love in the world... crying Even if he wasn't in the military, I doubt he would have ran off with Soi. He doesn't seem like the type of person. I agree with you on that though. Haagasu doesn't seem like a true villian. Take shigi for example. Shigi would slaugter an entire village without losing a smile for no reason. He did kill the Augur (I'm not sure how to spell her name) without a moment's hesitation. Haagasu, on the other hand, seems like he's only concerned with killing uruki/rimudo. If he was truly evil, he would try killing all the Seishi. Maybe his blindness has to something to do with why he's on the "evil" side? Like something in the past caused him too lose his sight, or the emperor knows a way to restore it and will only help him if he kills Urkuki/Rimudo. This is just a guess but I think the story might go alittle something like that: Takiko gathers all/most/some of the Seishi, but one dies before Genbu is summoned. Because Anlu (I only know her translated name) said they're were eight Seishi, they'll try looking for the eigth. The trail will lead them to Haagasu and they'll have to "convert" him to there side. (Basically something like that) Haagasu can absorb The Seishi's powers. I doubt Yuu Watase did that without a deeper meaning then to just make a strong "villian". Speakin of Haagasu, I'm attempting a CG chibi of him @_@ His clothes are so freakin' annoying, and there are no reference pictures so I can see what colors his lothes are!!! gonk I'm going to try a Nakago picture one day...
I heard that in the GK videogame, they had it that Shigi is the 7th seshi. Since I can't read Japanese, I don't know that for sure... but I agree with you theory of one of the Genbu seishi dying before Genbu can be summoned and Hagassu having to jump in to be the 7th seshi... with his powers to absorbe other seishi's powers, who knows, he might even end up replacing multiple seishi.
From what I've seen of Hagassu, it looks like he mostly wears all black, with bits of white and gold here and there. Definetly post the pic(s) when you've done them surprised
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:48 am
Nakago_Chan I read a translated version of those books that weren't actuallyl written by Yuu Watase, but she did ok them, and there was the on about Nakago growing up. You find out in that book that he never forgot Soi when he first saved her from her first client when she ran away from the brothel. Years later, when she meets up with him again, he pretends to not remember her, but then accidentally slips up when she trys thanking him again for back then by saying something along the lines of "I told you already you didin't need to thank me." "told you already" being back when he first saved her. He's always cold towards her, but at the same time, she's almost always by his side and it's not like he's ever telling her to get out of his hair and whenever she fails a mission, he was never crule to her like he was to some of the other seishi.
I heard that in the GK videogame, they had it that Shigi is the 7th seshi. Since I can't read Japanese, I don't know that for sure... but I agree with you theory of one of the Genbu seishi dying before Genbu can be summoned and Hagassu having to jump in to be the 7th seshi... with his powers to absorbe other seishi's powers, who knows, he might even end up replacing multiple seishi.
From what I've seen of Hagassu, it looks like he mostly wears all black, with bits of white and gold here and there. Definetly post the pic(s) when you've done them surprised Wow. o.o I never saw read that. If that is true about Nakago and Soi, he probaly did love her. I also forgot that Nakago treated the other Seishi like dirt, but was sort of neutral towards Soi. I really need to re-read those books... sweatdrop Even if Shigi is the 7th seishi in the game, he may not be it in the books. Whenever something is made into another media, (Books to movies, books to plays, books to video games, etc.) they tend to change things. I really hope my theory is true. It would make an interesting story, and I would get to see more of my beloved. heart I just hope Hikitsu isn't the Seishi who would die. ;_; There is a headshot of Haagassu on the front cover of the second book. He appears to have black hair and is wearing a lot of purple. I think i'm going to change somje of the colors so it's not as boring. His scarf thing is going to kill me. ;_; I'm only going to do a head shot of Nakago. His armor is so complex x.x I'll post them as soon as I'm done <3
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:18 am
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:42 am
Starlight_Goddess thunderxtiger Does anybosy like Limdo here? scream his name is Rimudo gonk Really??Wow...But in the book it said Limdo.... But okay...ThxsSorry if i was rude sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:34 am
I really should look up some stuff about Nakago. His character is much deeper than any other I've ever seen. Maybe that's why Yuu Watase likes him so much.
Hehe....I like your idea. Maybe Shigi is a celestial warrior. He seems to hate Genbu and everything about it. I think that's because something happened in his past that was a result of him being a celestial warrior, or something. I can't wait to see how this book plays out. whee
Gah! I've seen Haagasu with so many different color hairs. I think I'm going to go with black and green(ish) His eyes appear golden too... sweatdrop Thanks for the pictures!
Thunderxtiger: His name is "Limdo" in the english verision. They translated it wrong. it's supposed to be "Rimudo." I got confused too.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:46 am
Plum the dragon knight Starlight_Goddess thunderxtiger Does anybosy like Limdo here? scream his name is Rimudo gonk Most people love Uruki/Rimudo here. I just LOVE haagasu more xd -is such a fangirl-
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