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Resident Evil's Best Villains 1996-2002
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Ares Grim

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:58 am


Well honestly I think it explains more things. An in the book series she goes and does Caliban Cove which was pretty cool. The Zombies were actually able to shot. Umbrella Chronicles just gives you a quick run through of what happened. In the game series I kinda question why Rebecca never appears again she could find a way to end the virus since she was able to read some of the files about it from the Spencer Mansion and possibly Dr. Marcus's files.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:33 pm


Maybe that can happen but thats other hole to fill...

Mandrivnyk the paladin

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battosai matt

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:45 pm


I heard that Rebbecca was put in the games to be a "cute" character. Not really sure. But heres a question for Rebbecca...why did you need to be saved by Chris if you already went throught a mansion like this one I don't care if youv'e never seen a hunter it dosen't mean you wouldn't know how to fire a gun.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:34 pm


True, but then question why Chris, Jill or Barry didn't take the ammo off the dead S.T.A.R.S members. Personally I would have their dead and don't really need the ammo anymore.

Ares Grim


battosai matt

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:43 pm


Well Enrico for all we know he might have had one handgun clip with some bullets missing and theres the fact that the handgun is the second worst weapon in that game first being the knife. The gernade launcher it makes sense because those wheigh a lot and carrying to much extra ammo would be annyoing and they don't want to burn the forest down. Kennths gun most likely ran out of ammo as he shot the zombie and got killed. Richard he probably used most of it on his way to the mansion and aginst yawn and Forest well it be a stupid idea to try to get the weapons from him. Weasker once agin only a handgun ammo which is useless at that point of the game. And I think thats all of them.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:01 pm


Its still ammo and having enough is a good idea. Grenade launcher is going over board honestly. An handgun may have been the worst weapon, but its still a weapon better then nothing right?

Ares Grim



Siefren


Deadly Zealot

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:50 pm


a few remarks and explanations:

first off, if you play the original Resident Evil Zero,

(not the run through in the Umbrella Chronicles, you can clearly see that Rebecca isn't just a cute character; not how they portrayed her in the UC game, didn't like Rebecca In UC, especially with how helpless they seemed to make her, and not to mention I did not like the new voice over they had for her)

she isn't just eye candy.

in the original Zero, she was very well versed, though still green, she knew how to handle her guns, and how to survive, not to mention that she was just there, originally, for medical purposes. As to why she was so stressed out in Resident Evil, She had been dealing with the zombies and other BOWs for 1 or 2 days already before Chris and his team arrived. Chances are, she was suffering from Post Dramatic Stress Disorder at that given time, hints the reasons why she was so out of it in Resident Evil.

And next, reasons why you only had a hand gun to get you through the game originally, and why there was so few places to collect ammo, it was part of the genre's platform, Survival Horror, It made it a true survival horror game when you couldn't get ammo from the others, and I would also have to agree that chances are, the other characters, such as Kennith, and Forest, they were probably out of ammo from panic, as to why you couldn't get Richards ammo, well, one scenario, all his equipment was gone, and died in Rebecca's arms, and second, he was eaten by a shark, so either way, you couldn't get ammo from him. As for Enrico, he too had already been at this horror for a day or so before Chris and company arrived, so it would make sense why he was out of ammo.

Oh, and also reasons why Wesker and Chris only had hand guns, well, if you'd recall from other story plots, relevant in RE 2, Chris was an ace marksman, and Wesker was a close second, would you really need any other gun besides a hand gun, if you're that good? I know, I know, the game play didn't sync up with that story plot, but hey, survival horror at it's best (or worst, however you'd want to look at Survival Horror lol, IRL scenarios, it's a bad thing, but for a game, best thing you can play lol)

Next, the Resident Evil books that have been released and the comics as well have no baring on the actual story of Resident Evil, so they are just right up there with fan fiction. So we really can't include those forms of media in a discussion about Resident Evil, and it hold any relevance to the actual story line.

As far as Capcom is concerned, the Books, comics, and movies, except for Degeneration, don't exist. And it's even debated if Degeneration even exists among the actual resident evil story.

I think i covered everything that was spoken about from the page over to this one, if not, I will revisit and answer questions to the best of my knowledge.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:03 pm


I wacthed a walkthrough of 0 so I know and she saw one person die so that wouldn't affect her to greatly. And they have to make her seem helpless if not they would have to make her a veteren memeber and this was her first mission so it makes since that shes shown as helpless. And the handgun should only really be used on is the dogs or if you have the canteen use that gun and then burn the bodies the part of the game that really pissed me off was that. Well beging an ace marksman for Chris didn't really help much did it considering its rare to blow up the head with a hand gun. Oh and not just a shark a gaint snake A.K.A Yawn that kills Richard. Now not to sound cold but when he died I was a little sad for about five seconds then rembered "Wait he gave a broken radio which if it wasen't broken I could call Brad he'll bring reinforcment and I can get the hell outta here no problem but since its broken I can't do that.....Richard....you son of a" and you know the rest but in short I was a bit happy that it happened I mean the radio serves no real porpuse it only helps when Brad says "This is your last chance." And don't get me wrong I love the game but in the masion I was like "Puzzle. Ok done with that. Anther puzzle? Well ok done. Hm anther one oh well that was easy. Oro? Anther one wow I wonder how many are in this mansion?*After god knows how many puzzles later.*OH MY ******* ANTHER GOD *** PUZZLE WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH THIS ******* PLACE!!!! JESUS BUDDAH MUHAMID ALLAH CHRIST!!!"I would have snapped if there was one more puzzle luckily there wasen't. And it got really boreing knowing I had to conserve ammo and yet not be able to really kill anything without possible regreting it later is until you get to the lab part then you can start killing. So basicly I went through mind numbing puzzles for about 12 hours or more(Note that was my first time playing the game and didn't know what to do.)killing barely anything.Then I almost immedlitly went to my Wii took RE out and put in RE:4 and went on one hell of a killing spree....for about 5 days. I mean for the love of Jesus the Legend of Zelda games have puzzles like those to but at least in that game I can actually kill things more often.

battosai matt



Siefren


Deadly Zealot

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:10 pm


LOL, it's called survival horror for a reason. ^_^

and technically, Rebecca saw way more dead bodies than just Richard(depending on which scenario you walked.), Dewie (Bet i spelled that wrong lol), not to mention all the zombies and the BOWs, i mean, heck, that would totally make you have a break down, i mean if i see like an over sized frog that can eat me in one gulp, I think i'd be saving one bullet for myself, set aside, if i can't get out ya know? So there was more to it why Rebecca had become so mentally exhausted and helpless in RE, but again i say, she was a strong character, and I still don't like how they reworked it in RE: UC.

OH, and the Yawn, that's the big snake, the sharks were called just the Great Whites (don't remember their BOW code.)

But yeah, the puzzles do make it harder to want to go through the game a second time, but hey i've done it lol, and going through a third, though i think i stopped on that one because, if you beat the game in under 5 hours on normal in the RE remake, you can unlock the Samurai edge, which i believe has unlimited ammo, and can go through 5 zombies at once, and each hit is a head shot on the zombies. that's the reason why i was wanting to go through it the third time to see if i could make the 5 hour mark, but I failed. I'm sure i've already logged 3 hours into the game already, and still haven't made it half way through the mansion yet. Pisses me off how hard they made it to get the Unlimited grenade launcher, and the samurai edge. Not to mention that the darn CV outfit you get for chris didn't increase your item storage on the guy, still only able to hold six, totally sucks, and waste of time. I was hoping to get at least 8 like jill, but no! capcom wouldn't have it! Gahh!
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:33 pm


I ment Dewie she didn't see Richard die Chris just tells her hes dead but would she really care about the zombies since she didn't know them? and the big shark is called Neptune. When I go through the slide show I like to have a little fun like "*On the dog*This is my puppy his name is fluffy.*Shark*This is my fish his name is blub blub*Hunter*This is my my frog his name if Kermit.*Tyrant* This is my friend who spends every wakeing moment in tube." Stuff like that to help me not go insane. I know about the samuria edage i tried normal and relized there were more zombies i thought it make enimeis harder to kill but no more enimes so stop on that for a while i gusse.Theres one thing Chris can do that Jill can't and thats the flash gernades the best self defense weapon garented to give the zombies head a boom. Thats the one advantage aside form that you want to be Jill why make the game more tedious as the male character why not the female Just look at chris in his normal outfit far more pockets then jills if she has any for that matter. But what i found odd is how chris only brought his knife on the mission or did Weasker tell chris before he walked through the "Oh Chris before you go give me your gun.""Why would I want to do that?""Are you questiong your supioer officer i said hand it over now.""Yes caption Weasker *hands the gun to weakser and gose through the door.*" Or is he stupid to some degree? Iv'e beaten the game three times as Jill and 2 times as Chris. And every time i burn a body i think that the mansion should be burning down after the first body you burn.

battosai matt



Siefren


Deadly Zealot

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:55 pm


Ah Neptune! that's the name of the shark. ^_^ subject matter Great White. Uhm, I'm sure that Rebecca saw Richard die, because when you go looking for the medicine to help him, if you come back too late, he's just laying there dead, where as if you come back in time, Rebecca is still there, and she gives him the dose. I don't know if there may be an inconsistancy in the dialogue or not, because I always come back in time, if you find her and you tell her that Richard died. I'm assuming that that's just a fault on Capcom's call, because why would you leave a man who's barely hanging on to die alone? I'm sure that she would have been there for him, until he passed. And again, I would still say that seeing the zombies would still horrify and mess with someone's mind, because you gotta think, her training was to prevent death and disaster, as a cop, but she now gets stuck in this horror, where she's killing what she swore to protect. Killing any human being would affect a persons mental state, even if the thing is already dead. Just ask some guys you know went to war and saw it first hand. there's a reason why once you get back from a tour, that they suggest that you see a theropist, to get through it.

Oh Snap! I wounder if that's what happened to Rebecca! that she had a mental breakdown, and that's why we haven't seen her for so many years lol.

and Yes, I love the flash grenades as well lol, stick it in it's mouth and you can wait and just watch it explode, or you can help it along with a shot, and then Ka-Booom! LOL, great fun. ^_^.

as for what happened with chris and his gun, when you play as him, for some freakin' reason, he got spooked by the Cerberus, and dropped his gun in the horror of seeing the dead dogs walk. I call that butter fingers, and I'd never do that if a gun was my only means of survival lol.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:11 pm


Now I found it funny how Jill dosen't seem to help allies out when in trouble Joseph he's getting mauled and shes just stareing at it(SInce I never did she her fire her gun and when you start the game and get it as chris or play as Jill it still has 15 rounds in it) and when brads yelling "HELP ME!!!"She wacths him die. Have you ever stuck the flashe gerade in its mout and stand there for a minete and notihng happens the zombie dosne't even move? Ya but thats only if your late. Well its never explained how Richard beats Chris to the shark room. Well ya she might have gone insane but in that case Id gusse she died in Raccon city from A. the bomb or B. the monsters. And Chris dropped his gun? I don't rember him haveing one in the opening cutscene I saw him holding his knife when he turned around and went"AHHHH!"then Weasker saves him and for no real reason Barry dissappears. If you ask me Jills story is the only one that will make sense for future games One. Being saveing chris and Two. We know for certain that Barry lives depending on what happens and Rebbecas not there (the Lisa fight when you have a choice to give him his gun back I did this "*Yes. No. Yes. No....hmm*Looks at Lisa and back at Barry*Well Barry your lucky I like you more then I like her*Chosses Yes*" Barry has to live other wise Jill would have died in Raccon ciy from the bomb)I always choose yes other wise the battle would be a pain. Oh and my most recent play through as chris Weasker got knocked off the edge in the fight and I though that was really gonna **** up the story only to relize he's still alive for no reason.

battosai matt



Siefren


Deadly Zealot

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:37 am


Yep, chris dropped his gun, when running through the forest. I want to think when i saw the opening scene that he had his gun, but wasn't able to fire, because the Cerberus was so close, and then Wesker fires off one round and then says "Chris, this way!"

And if you play through number three and get the good ending, it makes sense if you played through Chris's scenario, because you get to see Barry piloting the helicopter that Jill and Carlos take. LOL, you also have the option of shooting down Nicolae in the chopper, if you get the rocket launcher. That was fun lol.

and yeah, Jill really doesn't help anyone except for Chris, and then she's getting help from everyone else, Barry, Wesker, and Chris.

I've never just stood there with a zombie with the flash grenade in it's mouth, and it do nothing, it's usually like, i place it there, it knocks the zombie back a little, either you can shoot, or wait. I like waiting because the zombie just stands there for a bit, and then like i said earlier Ka-Boom! lol.

LOL, yeah, i remember setting Wesker up to get knocked down the caveren by Lisa, because I wanted to see it. all that happens is that Lisa slugs him and then Ahhhhh! until you don't hear wesker ahh-ing no more lol. It was totally funny. But yeah, i can only assume that he caught a root or something and managed to save himself rom falling to the bottom, and that he just found some other way back up.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:13 am


I'll wacth it again I just don't rember that happening well whatever not really important. Well I wacthed it again I saw his gun but I didn't see him drop it I did see him fire it. Not to mention I decided to wacth the orignal opening from the origanal game and I must say what the hell I mean it was like a movie but the actors were bad....Wait...Don't go. How though in Chris's story Barry is mentioned once at the begging and has mybe two seconds of screen time which is less then Forests but 2 times more then Kenneth since Kenneth gets none. In Chris's story Barry could have died acctually it's very likely because of the dogs, and the zombies and even if he got in the house he would have died from the explosion. In Jills story is the one with Chris, Jill, and Barry and no Rebbeca. Which makes sense for future games. But Chris's story would make sense for 0,1,2,4,5. and three would be completly skipped since Barry would possibly not be alive. I never played three I only wacthed walkthroughs on Youtube. And the guy never killed Nicohle which seems odd since RE seems like the kind of games that would kill any bad guys no matter how tiny.

Really? Well it wasen't until recently i relized that the flash gernade can hurt you to if your close enough. I just wonder why would flash gernades be laying around the house?

Or mybe Weasker actived a one time only god cheat which lets him survive anything for about 1 hour*Hence the fall then the getting stabbed then getting out of the mansion with what 5 seconds left on the clock.*And if I was Chris or Jill after the first Tyrant fight I would have walked up to Weasker take out the knife and say "Hey Weasker I got you an early birthday present it's called being stabbed in the eye socket. I hope you don't already have one. *Stab Stab Rebbeca or Barry stare horified as Chris or Jill stab into Weasker head* Ok lets go."Would have ended the game serise at possibly 3 mybe 4 but with no Ada since she would probably be dead. Most people belive Weasker saved her probably did.

battosai matt

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