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Hi Im Reiko
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:10 pm


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The victim in this photo's shoulder is trapped and he is only turned at an odd angle because he chooses to be that way.

So.. just what are you guys talking about?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:12 pm


Glorious Athena
I apologize. I'm going to come up with some style I can use, such as a paragraph for each limb of my body or something. That should help in the future.
Or you could just separate defense and offense.

And then if your defense or offense is that lengthy split it into step by step paragraphs.

Rather than one large .. thing .. of words.

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Just Sky

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:12 pm


I don't need to twist my body more to get into the space. That's the purpose of this section:
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With a huge heave of her right shoulder and back muscles, turning with her abs as well, and with the back of her upper arm pressing on Athena's left thigh, she forced her entire shoulder between Athena's legs. The intent wasn't to break the hold, but to shift Athena's left leg to press against her ribs.


I have more muscle than you do, so I should be stronger in some aspects. With the combined power of my back, shoulder and ab muscles, I should be able to spread your legs just enough to get my shoulder through.

@ Reiko: We're talking about something similar, but that armbar isn't a factor. My arm wasn't between her legs when she started the hold, so I'm trying to get my arm and shoulder between her legs to aid in the bodyslam.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:15 pm


Mr. Crawley
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The victim in this photo's shoulder is trapped and he is only turned at an odd angle because he chooses to be that way.

So.. just what are you guys talking about?

Athena's hands aren't pressed against the back of Merry's head. Just her leg shins. And with Athena's left leg against the right side of Merry's head, with her body pressed against Merry's, then that makes it to where her right arm is trapped inbetween the thigh of that left leg and her own body. And she says Merry is twisting to get her shoulder into that space while Athena is clamping. So, if the space is small and she further wants to get in, she has to twist her body off her knees.

Basically, her last post in the attempt of the powerbomb is more of a way to show that a powerbomb can be done from someone doing a triangle choke, yet needs to see that this is not exactly the same type of triangle choke she is seeing.

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Just Sky

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:17 pm


Then show me what it actually is. Because I can't tell the difference, really. I know that the leg positions are switched, but that's all.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:18 pm


Srsly.

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Glorious Athena

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:18 pm


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I don't need to twist my body more to get into the space. That's the purpose of this section:
Quote:
With a huge heave of her right shoulder and back muscles, turning with her abs as well, and with the back of her upper arm pressing on Athena's left thigh, she forced her entire shoulder between Athena's legs. The intent wasn't to break the hold, but to shift Athena's left leg to press against her ribs.


I have more muscle than you do, so I should be stronger in some aspects. With the combined power of my back, shoulder and ab muscles, I should be able to spread your legs just enough to get my shoulder through.

@ Reiko: We're talking about something similar, but that armbar isn't a factor. My arm wasn't between her legs when she started the hold, so I'm trying to get my arm and shoulder between her legs to aid in the bodyslam.

However, you need to see the mechanics of this hold. To remove the left leg, or at least have it go as you say to squeeze through, you're going to have somehow stop my left foot from pressing down against the right foot of my right leg and your head altogether. The more you push, the more I press. Since I have nothing to worry about, while you have a neck being pressurized, Athena's endurance can hold out long after you start to get a very bad neck crank.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:19 pm


Did you already have one of her shoulders between your legs?

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Hi Im Reiko
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:20 pm


Okay so... Athena doesn't have any shoulder trapped.. she just has her pelvis burried in Merry's neck.. and her legs locking it to make sure it doesn't move?

Is this what is happening, Athena?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:24 pm


Skysong Moonsword
Then show me what it actually is. Because I can't tell the difference, really. I know that the leg positions are switched, but that's all.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bwQ_6jG_s7w

1:46 is what I was going for. I needed to first try to secure your arms, which is why I have't tried the press down on your head yet with my hands.

Glorious Athena


Glorious Athena

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:25 pm


Mr. Crawley
Okay so... Athena doesn't have any shoulder trapped.. she just has her pelvis burried in Merry's neck.. and her legs locking it to make sure it doesn't move?

Is this what is happening, Athena?

Pelvis isn't exactly touching her, with the left leg only blocking Merry's right from moving through the space she is trying to squeeze through. She's more like lying on her back, only with her behind moving more toward Merry as Merry's upper body lowers.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:27 pm


Lol okay Athena that's a Triangle choke. at 1:46 it was a little loose.. but then he got it in tight as it progressed.

Now.. answer me this.. did you have at least one shoulder/arm trapped?

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Glorious Athena

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:27 pm


Mr. Crawley
Lol okay Athena that's a Triangle choke. at 1:46 it was a little loose.. but then he got it in tight as it progressed.

Now.. answer me this.. did you have at least one shoulder/arm trapped?

Her right shoulder/arm.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:32 pm


Okay.. question answered.

Now .. Sky I dont know if you already knew that one shoulder was trapped.. but.. you can't get anymore in other than that.

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Since you are trying to do this.. observe.

All you have to do.. is just do exactly what he did (or improvise just a bit). Both of you are debating isht like .. what arm is pressed against what and blabbahbabhablah.

What Rampage did is not some kind of set technique that has strict prerequisites. He got a hold of "something" (in this case a arm/hand/whatever) to lift his upperbody up along with the rest of him.

Find "something" to get a good grip on, and do the same thing.

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Glorious Athena

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:34 pm


If that's over, I need to go eat. I'll be back.
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