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Jim Hensley

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:28 am


Yeah...I didn't exactly get in trouble, more like a stern talking to. They understand my situation and know what I'm dealing with...on a new note: They've got me on a new medication...wonder how that's all gonna turn out.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:01 am


Xol, you are such a pain in the a**.... stressed

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Xol

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:52 pm


Lady Phia
Xol, you are such a pain in the a**.... stressed


The good kind with lube, or the bad kind without?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:12 pm


Xol
Lady Phia
Xol, you are such a pain in the a**.... stressed


The good kind with lube, or the bad kind without?


: stare

Lady Phia


Draeken Aakarshan

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:12 pm


Heh heh. Lube...Hah hah...a**......Now I just made myself sad because I gets none in teh real world.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:33 pm


Oh the monotony!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:13 am


Women in the infantry...Ready...Go!
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:14 pm


Bad idea if you ask me. Too much s**t that the grunts go through to let women in their ranks. Women can't stay out in the field as long as men, nor can the handle the same kind of environment. Nothing against them or their strengths, but simple fact of the matter is they need more severe hygiene requirements. Not to mention that a male soldier captured is less likely to be raped or anything more mentally trauma than a woman.

A Broken Husk


Lady Phia

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:22 pm


Tegral
Bad idea if you ask me. Too much s**t that the grunts go through to let women in their ranks. Women can't stay out in the field as long as men, nor can the handle the same kind of environment. Nothing against them or their strengths, but simple fact of the matter is they need more severe hygiene requirements. Not to mention that a male soldier captured is less likely to be raped or anything more mentally trauma than a woman.


While I do agree that rape is more common among female captors. I have yet to come across a study that says women are more susceptible to mental illness as result of trauma. Not all women require a shower every day to be functioning human beings, hygiene isn't a need for survival, its a comfort. Women are known for surviving in high-stress situations, (child-birth is one of the most common), they have higher-pain tolerance, they're also capable of multi-thought proceses which men are less adept at but is needed in choatic situations.

Your statements seem to mostly be based on opinion. But if we're going on your opinions then why have so many men who have barely passed their PT tests, who are considered "overweight", have questionable medical passes, or have mental illnesses allowed in combat? Oh yea, that happens more that you think.


I'm not saying that all women are suited for combat roles, but neither are all men. It should be taken on a strengths-basis, many women are perfectly capable of handling themselves in these enviroments, and situations.

Just some food for thought.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:32 pm


Lady Phia
Tegral
Bad idea if you ask me. Too much s**t that the grunts go through to let women in their ranks. Women can't stay out in the field as long as men, nor can the handle the same kind of environment. Nothing against them or their strengths, but simple fact of the matter is they need more severe hygiene requirements. Not to mention that a male soldier captured is less likely to be raped or anything more mentally trauma than a woman.


While I do agree that rape is more common among female captors. I have yet to come across a study that says women are more susceptible to mental illness as result of trauma. Not all women require a shower every day to be functioning human beings, hygiene isn't a need for survival, its a comfort. Women are known for surviving in high-stress situations, (child-birth is one of the most common), they have higher-pain tolerance, they're also capable of multi-thought proceses which men are less adept at but is needed in choatic situations.

Your statements seem to mostly be based on opinion. But if we're going on your opinions then why have so many men who have barely passed their PT tests, who are considered "overweight", have questionable medical passes, or have mental illnesses allowed in combat? Oh yea, that happens more that you think.


I'm not saying that all women are suited for combat roles, but neither are all men. It should be taken on a strengths-basis, many women are perfectly capable of handling themselves in these enviroments, and situations.

Just some food for thought.

I don't disagree what you're saying, hell Amy is more of a soldier than most guys I know. Don't think for a second I don't believe that certain women would fit the criteria of combat roll, I'm simply stating that considering the biological builds of men and women men are more suited for the rigors of combat.

While it's true that women can multitask better than men it's also true that men focus better on fewer subjects more intensely than women can. They (women) can think of dozens of different things at the same time and give all dozen things the same devotion of attention at once, but the brain function of a male allows them to concentrate on three or four things with a higher level of awareness and cognitive recognition.
Is that better in a combat situation? I don't know, it really depends on the situation and the enemy you're fighting. So you can't really argue that as a pro or a con.

As for the hygiene thing I was referring to things like yeast infection and menstrual cycles. Things that have to be maintained in a more constant/controlled environment. I may be wrong (and you'll have to excuse my sexism) because I don't bleed for 7 days without dying, but I'm fairly certain that if you don't properly care for yourself in a...let's call it a...controlled environment there's a fairly good chance of biological ruin. It's because of things like that that women can't be out in the field as long as men, not without extra personal precautions and maintenance.


Don't mistake me, I'm all for given strong women their dues, but for the vast majority the concept of women combatants is a generally bad idea.

A Broken Husk


Lady Phia

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:09 pm


Tegral
I don't disagree what you're saying, hell Amy is more of a soldier than most guys I know. Don't think for a second I don't believe that certain women would fit the criteria of combat roll, I'm simply stating that considering the biological builds of men and women men are more suited for the rigors of combat.

While it's true that women can multitask better than men it's also true that men focus better on fewer subjects more intensely than women can. They (women) can think of dozens of different things at the same time and give all dozen things the same devotion of attention at once, but the brain function of a male allows them to concentrate on three or four things with a higher level of awareness and cognitive recognition.
Is that better in a combat situation? I don't know, it really depends on the situation and the enemy you're fighting. So you can't really argue that as a pro or a con.

As for the hygiene thing I was referring to things like yeast infection and menstrual cycles. Things that have to be maintained in a more constant/controlled environment. I may be wrong (and you'll have to excuse my sexism) because I don't bleed for 7 days without dying, but I'm fairly certain that if you don't properly care for yourself in a...let's call it a...controlled environment there's a fairly good chance of biological ruin. It's because of things like that that women can't be out in the field as long as men, not without extra personal precautions and maintenance.


Don't mistake me, I'm all for given strong women their dues, but for the vast majority the concept of women combatants is a generally bad idea.


I had a feeling that was going to come up.

During WWII, it was generally thought that this would be problem however, "female military nurses have had a long history of functioning in wartime under primitive, unsanitary conditions without questions being raised about menstruation interfering with the performance of their duties"

According to:
Wechsler Segal, Mady (1982) "The Argument for Female Combatants" in Goldman, Nancy L. Female soldiers - combatants or noncombatants? Contributions in women's studies (Issue 33)

That's probably one of the lamest excuses I've heard of to be honest. Let's be honest, we delt with this crap before the intention of the Tampon. Women in third-world countries are still dealing with it.


I'm not trying to go after you, but this has been a topic that I've been discussing alot lately, what with my girlfriend being in Afghanistan.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:37 am


How is it that I've become the only person that is posting?

Lady Phia


Truinthil

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:46 pm


Ah, but the difference between being a military nurse in a poor environment and a female combatant in the field without a shower for weeks or longer is worlds apart. How many women do you know that would willingly put themselves in a situation that would not allow them anything more than maybe brushing their teeth and wiping themselves down once in a while with baby wipes for weeks on end. It does in fact get that bad.

Getting away from the hygiene issue, think also on simple muscle mass. While yes, women can be quite strong given the proper build and such, quite simply put...Most women just can't lift a six foot male weighing over two hundred pounds without gear and likely nearly 300 or more with a full combat load. Also, doing this in combat, said female combatant would be wearing the same weight of gear and would still have to maintain the ability to fire their weapon while carrying a wounded soldier away from the action. And no, it wont be something like several feet. In a bad situation it could be several hundred meters if not even further depending on location and the severity of combat and availability of vehicles. Some people might point out women body builders that are just as sculpted and far more scary as male body builders, but from my understanding those women body builders usually have to rely on completely unnatural ways of attaining such muscle mass...not to mention mobility and flexibility is out the window at that point.

And on a side note, how do you think the media would act were there to be female combatants dying in the same number as males? I am pretty sure that most of the population of the US would be in uproar over even half the number of women dying as men. Not saying it's more acceptable for one gender to die than another, but it's simply a part of our culture. Despite women becoming more independent and self-sufficient over the past several decades, men still have a strong desire to protect women. That also leads to another problem, that desire to protect women. While it is quite possible that many infantrymen would on the surface appear to treat women in the infantry the same as any of their male brothers in arms, when it comes down to a firefight and a woman takes a hit, there is the possibility for that inborn need to protect the female to kick in and unnecessarily cause for more alarm and panic amongst the male soldiers, taking weapons out of the fight and lowering combat effectiveness.

And one more thing I feel the need to point out seeing as it deals with my own personal MOS. I've also heard that not only will it be the infantry getting women in their ranks, but all combat arms positions, to include my own, 19K, the M1 Armor Crewman or Tanker. For one thing, just about all the parts on a tank are extremely heavy. Second while it's not because I am sexist (because I'm not), I personally would rather not be stuck in a tiny space like the turret for several hours at a time let alone hours a day for weeks at a time, with a woman on her period. I'm sure most women would agree that the smell is not always pleasant and wont go away with a simple baby wipe bath. Also...I fear to think of what sort of things would happen in an enclosed space like a tank whether consensual or no.

Which brings me back to my biggest fear of suddenly putting women into combat arms. I will say straight forward that most men in the infantry and even amongst tankers are generally pigs and complete womanizers. Putting them in close quarters for weeks, months, or for a year or more during deployments would greatly increase the chances for sexual harassment and/or rape. I myself cannot tolerate such acts, but already there have been numerous acts of reported rape and sexual assault in combat zones and god knows how many unreported...and in most cases there isn't nearly as much contact between genders as there would be by placing women in combat arms.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:36 pm


D's heartfelt critique on the conditions of warfare has opened my eyes and pulled at my heart.

HE IS RIGHT! HUMANS SUCK and all should be removed from combat duty.

More concisely than anyone else, D has made the case why robots are the superior warriors. Thus, I will make it my personal mission to lend my efforts to the complete mechanization and automation of the US Armed Forces, such that by 2035, there will be not a single human being remaining in the field. All officers and infantry will instead be replaced with the much more durable, reliable, civil, hygienic, and economical automations made for armed duty. Each will possess many times the capacity of a soldier and require only a fraction of the sustenance and utilities.

Suck it, humans.

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Acuzio Bladester

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:49 am


Don't forget that the new army also won't be bound by idiotic religious beliefs.
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