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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:05 pm


What a buncha' BS.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:05 pm


Crawleymang~
XShilonX
The TRUE reason the Tier System is Bullshit? Is because it's useless- No RP'er in their right mind would ever make a serious character that is so many 'tiers' lower than their opponent.[/img]
That doesn't make it bullshit.

There are plenty of people with simple human characters.

What makes them different is that they are smart... and do not try to fight people who are so many tiers above them.


But doesn't that, in turn, raise their Tier? Someone who is smart enough to skip the battle entirely is never defeated, no?

XShilonX


Hi Im Reiko

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:06 pm


Typhoon_Omi
Even in a battle situation, if your "high tierrrr" character managed to bet my "low tier", does that automatically prove me wrong? No, it merely means your high tier bested mine, it doesn't rule out that the low tier could have won.
No one is saying that lower tier characters cannot win.

(In this case. The mouse will not win. It will never win. And for you to keep thinking that it can somehow.. is ridiculous on your part.. because the power differences are too great)

But the point is... character creation plays a big part. Which means tiers play a part.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:07 pm


XShilonX
But doesn't that, in turn, raise their Tier? Someone who is smart enough to skip the battle entirely is never defeated, no?
That doesn't raise their tier.

Because if they are forced into the fight. Then they will be forced to confront the fact that they are low tier.

Tiers = your effectiveness and attack priority in battle.

Hi Im Reiko

Aged Sex Symbol


Shouyin

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:08 pm


XShilonX
Peraps because only your own idiotic arrogance made you think they were idiots, hmmmm?


Naw, I'm pretty sure you're just retarded. *backreads some more*
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:09 pm


Crawleymang~
Typhoon_Omi
Even in a battle situation, if your "high tierrrr" character managed to bet my "low tier", does that automatically prove me wrong? No, it merely means your high tier bested mine, it doesn't rule out that the low tier could have won.
No one is saying that lower tier characters cannot win.

(In this case. The mouse will not win. It will never win. And for you to keep thinking that it can somehow.. is ridiculous on your part.. because the power differences are too great)

But the point is... character creation plays a big part. Which means tiers play a part.


Lemme throw a random situation at you. Why we're using a mouse, which has a rediculous power difference, is beyond me.. but yes, it could "win".

Let us say, we were at a fortress, and a mage was walking towards it, when a mouse accidently sets off a weapon that launches forward, obliterating said mage.

Was it random chance? Sure. Was it totally based on the situation/environment and not on the mouse's own skills? Sure. Did the mouse defeat the mage? Yes. Yes it did.

And originally, yes you were saying lower tier characters, if their roleplayer's skill level was the same as a higher tier character's roleplayer's skill level, would never win. My point was in the opposite direction.

My point is: yes, if you want to play into this "tiers", character creation and power play a giant role. But there is always the possibility, due to the situation at hand, the environment, luck, interference, you name it.. that even the lowest of tier characters can best a high tier, if things play right. That's just simple truth.

Typhoon Omi


Typhoon Omi

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:10 pm


Shouyin
XShilonX
Peraps because only your own idiotic arrogance made you think they were idiots, hmmmm?


Naw, I'm pretty sure you're just retarded. *backreads some more*


YOU, a man with a hook for an arm and a monocile, claim Shilon to be retarded? I SAY, WE DUEL WITH LARGE TEXT NOW.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:12 pm


But, you're SOMEWHAT missing the point-
True, the Tier system WOULD play a part... If someone ACTUALLY made a low-tier character. I assure you anyone that has any role-playing merit would not simply make a human with a sword as their main character that they spend most of their time RPing with. A Side-Character? Perhaps. But not their main character. But, if you give the character proper techniques, as a good RPer does? You raise the character's tier significantly, making the Tier advantage null and void, making the system useless.

And, EVEN if you manage to disregard all the above arguments,
using your logic?

Character Creation = Tier System, correct?
Well.
Writer's skill = Character Creation.
Unless someone else makes the character for the RP'er, the Character's tier usually matches the Writer's writing tier.

XShilonX


Hi Im Reiko

Aged Sex Symbol

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:12 pm


Typhoon_Omi
Lemme throw a random situation at you. Why we're using a mouse, which has a rediculous power difference, is beyond me.. but yes, it could "win".
That's fine.

But then that makes my example valid about how there aren't any cases where a guy, bound and blindfolded has escaped death by firing squad.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:13 pm


The weak is defeated by the strong,
Yet the strong is the rival of the weak.

Nightsnow


Hi Im Reiko

Aged Sex Symbol

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:13 pm


XShilonX
But, if you give the character proper techniques, as a good RPer does? You raise the character's tier significantly, making the Tier advantage null and void, making the system useless.
That doesn't make it useless.

It means you're playing right into tier.

You aren't breaking the system. You are playing by it by acknowledging that you have to do something to make your character stand more of a chance.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:14 pm


Crawleymang~
That's fine.

But then that makes my example valid about how there aren't any cases where a guy, bound and blindfolded has escaped death by firing squad.


Tis kewl'. But then, that makes my point valid about how when the guy's bound, blindfolded, and in front of a firing squad, he HAD a battle that he already lost, didn't he? And he could've escaped THEN, or killed them THEN, or called in support somehow THEN, couldn't he have?

If you're telling me there hasn't been situations where one man managed to overwhelm or escape a much large section of forces.. well, check some war stories lying around.

Typhoon Omi


XShilonX

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:14 pm


Crawleymang~
XShilonX
But doesn't that, in turn, raise their Tier? Someone who is smart enough to skip the battle entirely is never defeated, no?
That doesn't raise their tier.

Because if they are forced into the fight. Then they will be forced to confront the fact that they are low tier.

Tiers = your effectiveness and attack priority in battle.


Ah, but if they were smart enough to not want to fight, they could easily direct all their attention to getting out of the fight completely, getting away, etc.

Technically, they lost the battle. Yet, they're still alive and well.

Graaah, we're getting off-point again. xD
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:16 pm


Typhoon_Omi
Tis kewl'. But then, that makes my point valid about how when the guy's bound, blindfolded, and in front of a firing squad, he HAD a battle that he already lost, didn't he?
But the point is he is facing another threat. And in this threat. Him winning.. isn't likely. In fact.. it isn't going to happen.

Even if his supporting army dropped bombs.

He still lost. He died.

Hi Im Reiko

Aged Sex Symbol


XShilonX

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:17 pm


Crawleymang~
XShilonX
But, if you give the character proper techniques, as a good RPer does? You raise the character's tier significantly, making the Tier advantage null and void, making the system useless.
That doesn't make it useless.

It means you're playing right into tier.

You aren't breaking the system. You are playing by it by acknowledging that you have to do something to make your character stand more of a chance.


I didn't say it was breaking the system, but that makes the system a bunch of useless Red-Tape.

AND, NIGHTSNOW!

Your wisdom is unmatched by all who preside in this thread. User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.

With that... This argument is over. Because it's now gotten to the point where we're just repeating the same arguments over and over, only worded differently.

This battle has been proclaimed as a: Draw.
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