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since that was totally ignored...Also Kumo...if the friggin technique says it's flexible ice, its flexible ice! Ever wonder how the hell someone shoots a fireball out of their mouth the size of a building? Or even controls ice in the first place? It's called IMAGINATION!

That's the same excuse Mistah gives me for not being more active...

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Kumo, you have gone from preaching how indestructible your techniques are, to trying to show us how useless they are. You've gone from treating them like steel, to treating them like glass. They are neither. They are ICE. Ice is the solid form of water. It's easily broken, yes, but it does not shatter from the slightest impact. You need to read over all of the techniques again, and just think of it as ice rather than steel or glass.

The ice sphere is in fact much like the water prison. It is a ball, and it traps someone inside. Considering it says that if the person doesn't get busted out fast enough, they will suffocate, I'd say it does in fact do basically the same thing.

Have you ever seen how venom is removed from a snakebite? They make a small incision over the bite, and suck it out. This is basically the same thing. You make a small incision, pour water on it, the water goes inside, collects the poison, and comes back out. It only freezes after it's outside of the wound, so it's not like you're ripping a massive hunk of ice out of your skin.

How do you get flexible ice? I shall answer with an answer someone else, I can't remember who, maybe Cobra, came up with. NINJA MAGIC. Don't think about HOW it works. It WORKS. It's in the jutsu description. That makes it fact.

And once again, I don't care who you have standing there, or what weapon they have. A giant block of ice is not going to simply shatter. Break hunks off yes, shatter, no.

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@Jade: Hell yes. I'm sick of waiting too! But, you should make a new tower thread first, to be used after the time skip.

@Kay: God. That's about it.

You are the one that compared it to Glass Hinote, So I'm going off what you spoke of.

Honestly I'm growing bored of this conversation and I'm not even caring about what the jutsus do or do not do, Just the fact that I'm not learning any of them, And I probably won't for a while. Like I said, I'm learning Hidden mist jutsu from Kirigakure before I learn any of my Hyouton jutsu.

.... Ok, if we've time skipped, do I have to stay an Academy Student?

And what leads you to believe that mist will TEACH you these things?

One of you two answer me please.

I see. I'd heard some of that before I think, but I've heard of it being done both ways.

@Jade: Indeed it is!

Nothing, I'd just come over, ask, and then leave if I got turned down. No big deal. I just don't see how a different village gets the Hidden mist jutsu. I mean I get it, but wouldn't Mist guard it better than that?