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 Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:32 am
As a World Eaters player, I feel that if Berzerker were to find a woman, most likely he would feel lust. Then after he had his way with her he would fulfill his blood lust and seperate her head from her body.
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:55 am
yeah, hed probably eat her too...
yum yum, woman blood! tastes like sugar... *slurp!*
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:59 am
Dread Lime Actually, Divorce is a very old concept, and exists in one form or another within every culture with a formalised system of marriage. It only became common within the last 40 years or so, following the womens lib movement and the push to remove the social stigma from dissolving a marriage. The real issue here is whether or not a minion of Khorne is nothing more than a frothing psychopath who spends all his waking hours looking for stuff to kill. The World Eaters, specificly Kharn, are a good argument for this; but that doesn't change the fact that Khorne embodies far more than mere homicidal rage. Even if they do exist in a near consant state of bezerk rage, they would still have their lucid moments, and that rage wouldn't neccesarily negate the ability to experiance other emotions. One could easily argue that Spacemarines in general a bunch of sociopaths, and that the colosest they can come to true love is more akin to the fondness most people have for a pet. Of course, the World Eaters were always a bit... ...off. I suspect that even had then Horus Heresy not occured, The Emperor would eventually have had to send the other legions to put them down. 3nodding Alright, READ MY DAMN POST BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO ARGUE!!! I said that the commonness of divorces is A NEW development, not divorces themselves. There has always been room for them, but ONLY when there was A MAJOR problem, at least in european societies. As it stands, the womens lib movement just ******** everyone over, nothing more. As for the LOVE issue, you are not paying attention. They do not have MANY lucid moments, and when they do, it MIGHT be to fornicate, nothing more. Hardly love something.
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:39 pm
The comments on divorce are tangential, and really have nothing to do with the subject. My original point was that the lines between extreme emotions have a tendency to blur into one another. The pimplication[1] was that the hatred between Khorne and Slaanesh, as projected onto their followers, could possibly undergo that same blurring effect in the case of a single Daemon Prince. It's very highly improbable, but it works.
The Chaos marines, being individuals rather than Cookie-cutter copies, each have their own motivations and emotions. In other words, they aren't a bunch of faceless [2] evil-doers. Their wills may be irrevocably bound to that of their gods, but they still have a great deal of leeway in exactly how they behave. Really, In some ways they're quite similar in some ways to the Black spiral dancers from Werewolf: The Apocalypse. The BSDs are wholly bound by the Wyrm's will, and can do nothing that would countermand it. Even so, they have wide latitude in how they carry it out.
My next explanation revolved around the accepted idea that Space Marines tend to be rather emotionally stunted in certain areas. This is a result of the various chemical and hypno-therapies they undergo as a part of the process that turns them into marines. The idea is that the Daemon prince's "love" for his "wives" is more akin to the fondness most people have for a pet, rather than true love. The demonettes were likely using him for their own purposes...
As to Khornite lust, after 10000 years, the average Berserker could probably care less about sex. If anything, he'd be more interested in maintaining his weapons and armor, finding some place to hang his trophies, and marking off his kills. If he did come across a woman, he'd likely shoot her and look for a new target.
And I agree that the Womens Lib movment screwed everyone over...
The entire 1960's were one massive cluster****.
[1] This was a typo, but I think I'll leave it be. lol
[2] In most cases...
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:57 am
Dread Lime The comments on divorce are tangential, and really have nothing to do with the subject. My original point was that the lines between extreme emotions have a tendency to blur into one another. The pimplication[1] was that the hatred between Khorne and Slaanesh, as projected onto their followers, could possibly undergo that same blurring effect in the case of a single Daemon Prince. It's very highly improbable, but it works. The Chaos marines, being individuals rather than Cookie-cutter copies, each have their own motivations and emotions. In other words, they aren't a bunch of faceless [2] evil-doers. Their wills may be irrevocably bound to that of their gods, but they still have a great deal of leeway in exactly how they behave. Really, In some ways they're quite similar in some ways to the Black spiral dancers from Werewolf: The Apocalypse. The BSDs are wholly bound by the Wyrm's will, and can do nothing that would countermand it. Even so, they have wide latitude in how they carry it out. My next explanation revolved around the accepted idea that Space Marines tend to be rather emotionally stunted in certain areas. This is a result of the various chemical and hypno-therapies they undergo as a part of the process that turns them into marines. The idea is that the Daemon prince's "love" for his "wives" is more akin to the fondness most people have for a pet, rather than true love. The demonettes were likely using him for their own purposes... As to Khornite lust, after 10000 years, the average Berserker could probably care less about sex. If anything, he'd be more interested in maintaining his weapons and armor, finding some place to hang his trophies, and marking off his kills. If he did come across a woman, he'd likely shoot her and look for a new target. And I agree that the Womens Lib movment screwed everyone over... The entire 1960's were one massive cluster****. [1] This was a typo, but I think I'll leave it be. lol [2] In most cases... Whatever you say... "Sarcasm for those who cannot tell", I am sick of argueing with you, as you never seem to listen anyway, you just go with your original idea, and pay no heed to anyone else. To boot, 10000 years, I doubt they would even HAVe A libido to speak of, and thirdly, IF THEY SERVE ONE GOD, THAT IS IT!!!! They cannot serve one god if they are pledged to one over all the others. In other words, they are permanent tools of Khorne, and will not serve Slaanesh. As for the rest, so much for A tangent, you went off on one most of these people do not understand, and for that matter, neither do I. Seriously, who gives A damn about Black Spiral Dancers.
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:41 am
The rolleyes works quite well for noting sarcasm.
I'd honestly thought this was a friendly discussion, and not an argument.
If there's a problem, I'll be happy to just drop the subject and move on to something else.
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:59 am
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:17 pm
Yeah, well, I was just pointing out that you never give A damn about what someone else is saying, and that you think you are always right, unless someone can point out to you that you are wrong, and prove it with evidence as well. In such A subject, you are always going to be an a**, and say you are right, and everyone else is wrong, I know, I have put up with it for several years now. Anyway, I thought this was the Chaos Marine thread, not the I think that they get laid all the time thread. Anyway, let us get back on topic, shall we.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:53 pm
Ok, so possibly, maybe considering a Death Guard based army, but with similar but different fluff.
What are the Pros in the Battle, and in the fluff? (not asking for rules)
Same question about the Cons .
Also, would this idea be plausible: In cyber city oedo, 808, there is an episode where they become vampires due to a Virus. Sayangi is this man who made the Virus. instead of killing the host, it causes regeneration rather than decay, and also gives lots of other benefits, like levitation,etc. They dont produce their own Blood as a result of the virus, so they need to drink the Blood of Others . They arent undead, but the effects are similar to a Vampire.
Would fluff similar to that make sense for a DG based army?
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:59 pm
NovaBrightStar Ok, so possibly, maybe considering a Death Guard based army, but with similar but different fluff. What are the Pros in the Battle, and in the fluff? (not asking for rules) Same question about the Cons . Also, would this idea be plausible: In cyber city oedo, 808, there is an episode where they become vampires due to a Virus. Sayangi is this man who made the Virus. instead of killing the host, it causes regeneration rather than decay, and also gives lots of other benefits, like levitation,etc. They dont produce their own Blood as a result of the virus, so they need to drink the Blood of Others . They arent undead, but the effects are similar to a Vampire. Would fluff similar to that make sense for a DG based army? ** Not really, no. As it stands, Deathguard are already "Blessed" with diseases from Nurgle, so it would not affect them. Anyway, as it is, the pros are they are VERY difficult to kill, and they are REALLY good in CC. As for the cons, you lose the use of ALOT of long range weapons.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 2:06 pm
Relkin9 Not really, no. As it stands, Deathguard are already "Blessed" with diseases from Nurgle, so it would not affect them. Anyway, as it is, the pros are they are VERY difficult to kill, and they are REALLY good in CC. As for the cons, you lose the use of ALOT of long range weapons. No, not a Death Guard Army. A Death Guard Based Army. A Different Chapter/Legion that does that in their fluff. Might that be plausible then? Im considering now: Emperor's Children Based, Death Guard Based, or Imperium, and possibly Tau. All the groups would be DIY groups, and not the official main groups, if that makes sense. **
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 2:12 pm
NovaBrightStar Relkin9 Not really, no. As it stands, Deathguard are already "Blessed" with diseases from Nurgle, so it would not affect them. Anyway, as it is, the pros are they are VERY difficult to kill, and they are REALLY good in CC. As for the cons, you lose the use of ALOT of long range weapons. No, not a Death Guard Army. A Death Guard Based Army. A Different Chapter/Legion that does that in their fluff. Might that be plausible then? Im considering now: Emperor's Children Based, Death Guard Based, or Imperium, and possibly Tau. All the groups would be DIY groups, and not the official main groups, if that makes sense. ** It would only make sense if that was A group that came about AFTER the Horus Heresy. The original Space Marine Traitors were all one of the armies listed. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 2:24 pm
I am probably going with either: Undivided, Imperial, or Tau.
(In Alphabetical Order) Khorne and Slaanesh are My Favorites from those, though Undivided lets you choose all of them.
Defilers = Yummy. wink
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:18 pm
What about Bezerkers? Do they need to kill everybody, or is there examples of where they let their friends live?
Not World Eaters, since they had surgery to make them kill everybody.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:52 am
NovaBrightStar What about Bezerkers? Do they need to kill everybody, or is there examples of where they let their friends live? Not World Eaters, since they had surgery to make them kill everybody. ** As for Beserkers, they will cut their OWN heads off to satisfy the Blood God, so I would say it goes against their nature to spare anything.
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