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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:46 pm

O_O And this is what I get for being away from the computer for two days. I missed a fun argument! ;___; Dang.

Anyways. -starts clapping for all the wonderful posts- Good job to everyone! <3 We sure have alot of good defenders here. ><

And welcome back Iia! <3

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:57 pm

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I'm BACK! domokun *shot*

;-; I missed this place. <3

You were missed. Bet you would of had a very well thought out comback for our argument. Lolx. Welcome back!

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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:47 pm

Thanks! n.n I'm happy to be back. >w> <3

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:47 pm

Remedi

Thanks! n.n I'm happy to be back. >w> <3

-Late- Yay! You're back! -Clings-

Oh, and nice responses, everyone. ^_^ I've just seen that 'desperate' thing being used by anti-SasuSaku-ers a lot lately, and I was curious as to how you guys would handle it.

You all handled it very nicely. -Nod-

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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:08 pm

reallly?

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:10 am

Kairi.nin

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Thanks! n.n I'm happy to be back. >w> <3

-Late- Yay! You're back! -Clings-

Oh, and nice responses, everyone. ^_^ I've just seen that 'desperate' thing being used by anti-SasuSaku-ers a lot lately, and I was curious as to how you guys would handle it.

You all handled it very nicely. -Nod-

Pish. *rubs nails on shirt* Too easy an argument to counter. blaugh

Got anymore meat for us, Kairi-san?

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:40 am

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Thanks! n.n I'm happy to be back. >w> <3

-Late- Yay! You're back! -Clings-

Oh, and nice responses, everyone. ^_^ I've just seen that 'desperate' thing being used by anti-SasuSaku-ers a lot lately, and I was curious as to how you guys would handle it.

You all handled it very nicely. -Nod-

Agrees. Yes, Ive seen "Desperate" All too much. And see as, Sakura is my favorite female character, I got my facts straight on that situation. But yes, do you have anymore? Getting my point across and debating are a specialty of mine. Lolx. As most of everyone here.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:49 am

I missed it. sweatdrop crying

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Kairi.nin

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:11 am

Yes, I have more. From the Heaven&Earth forum, the NaruSaku FC at NarutoFan..

This one, however, I found at NarutoFan, but it was originally posted at.. a site with a name I've never heard of before. Don't ask.

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In the every day life do you think that Sasuke and Sakura would work? No way, man. Besides, it isn't Sasuke's character to love Sakura (or ANYONE). He's too insane and blood-thirsty to have any romantic liason whatsoever, and there's no one to help him except for Naruto. Plus, SasuSaku has been one-sided from the beginning.

Naruto and Hinata wouldn't work either. Naruto is blatant and outgoing, Hinata is shy and non-agressive. Naruto would likely go into action without considering the consequences, and Hinata wouldn't be able to stop him. Sakura would have. And why would Naruto, the main character of the show, be paired with a mere side character who has shown up in a total of three times in the manga?

Well, my liking for the NaruSaku pairing all started waaaayyy back in the early days when Naruto henge-ed into Sasuke to kiss Sakura. That was the time when Naruto fell in love with Sakura, and Sakura fell in love with Sasuke, seeing his soft side. But that's just it, she fell in love with Sasuke because he was Naruto pretending to be him. Have you guys ever considered that?

I like the way Naruto and Sakura are being nudged together ever so slowly... and not like how other pairings are expected to be. Throughout the course of the manga they have gotten closer and closer to each other, and unlike other pairings, it's not one-sided. If there really was going to be a NaruHina or a SasuSaku relationship, Kishimoto would've made them closer to each other, but no...it's the same as ever.

NaruSaku actually makes the most sense out of all the pairings. Although I'm afraid I'm not so confident in the author's abilities to create something out of that sense, because the ***MANGA SPOILER: Rescue Gaara mission: MANGA SPOILER*** isn't exactly good storyline material.

Go wild.

Also, do SasuSaku a favor, and vote here:

http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17334847

Edit: .. NaruSaku is winning.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:50 am

[[Actually, I was waiting for a thought out one like this. Thank you Kairi.nin! biggrin Btw, Now that I just voted, Its at a tie. 10-10. At least NaruHina is a strong one.]]

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In the every day life do you think that Sasuke and Sakura would work? No way, man. Besides, it isn't Sasuke's character to love Sakura (or ANYONE). He's too insane and blood-thirsty to have any romantic liason whatsoever, and there's no one to help him except for Naruto. Plus, SasuSaku has been one-sided from the beginning.

First off, where does it say anywhere that love isn't in Sasuke's character. Sasuke is human, and no matter what you do, love is a part of human being. I dont care who you are. And Sakura is the closest thing at this point. I really wish they would stop calling the SasuSaku pairing one sided and take a second away from their P.O.V. and see what SasuSaku relationship. I do it, I hate the NaruSaku pairing more then anything, but I still look at it from a different point of view before I get started on my ranting. Also, since when is Sasuke blood thirsty. Last I checked Gaara was the one freaking out when blood was in the air. He's power hungry for revenge. Wording is everything with me. Insane? Thats funny. I find Insane is when someone needs to be locked away. I find Sasuke sane. A little lost, but sane.

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Naruto and Hinata wouldn't work either. Naruto is blatant and outgoing, Hinata is shy and non-agressive. Naruto would likely go into action without considering the consequences, and Hinata wouldn't be able to stop him. Sakura would have. And why would Naruto, the main character of the show, be paired with a mere side character who has shown up in a total of three times in the manga?

Oposites attract. Polar oposites. Sakura has been shown to have only given feelings for Naruto as sibling in my eyes. I mean, they get along, in a friend way. Hinata has cared for Naruto when no one else did. She may be shy and non aggressive, but I find that the best part. And who says she couldnt stop him. So far whatever he has done in battle, has turned out perfect, and if Im not mistaken, Naruto has grown up after the time skip and really knows what he is doing. Tactic wise. And what are they talking about. A mere side character? Hinata has gone on missions with him, though they are filler, its still story line. Latest "199" She thought Naruto was asking her out. Sorry if thats a spoiler to some of you, but its an example. Those are simple little clues that I think Kishi will be leading up to the big come together.

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Well, my liking for the NaruSaku pairing all started waaaayyy back in the early days when Naruto henge-ed into Sasuke to kiss Sakura. That was the time when Naruto fell in love with Sakura, and Sakura fell in love with Sasuke, seeing his soft side. But that's just it, she fell in love with Sasuke because he was Naruto pretending to be him. Have you guys ever considered that?

Uhm, Yea about that. I think Sakura has LIKED him since she was in Konoichi training. Right? Am I mistaken to say that I think she fell in LOVE with him after they started going on missions together. For example Haku Vs. Sasuke. The whole dying thing. I think it started evolving from that. Sure you cry over your friends dying. But there was something there to begin with, so I see that making it grow. And spending so much time with someone you have been crushing on since the begining makes alot of sense. And the whole Naruto Henging into Sasuke is something that a kid would do for a kiss from the popular girl in the class. Am I wrong. Dont you think Boys would do anything for that kiss from a girl that wouldnt give you a time of day unless if was her crush. Its cute, but I dont see that as valid. And I dont see that as love. In fact, I think it was still a crush. And he hasnt been able to develope love feelings for Sakura, if ever, because his constant Sasuke attention, and soon, the Akatsuki after Kyuubi.

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I like the way Naruto and Sakura are being nudged together ever so slowly... and not like how other pairings are expected to be. Throughout the course of the manga they have gotten closer and closer to each other, and unlike other pairings, it's not one-sided. If there really was going to be a NaruHina or a SasuSaku relationship, Kishimoto would've made them closer to each other, but no...it's the same as ever.

It depends on what this person means by ever so slowly. The emotions, as Ive stated MANY times before, could easily be interpreted as Sibling feelings. You cant do that with SasuSaku's realtionship. What? Not expected. Yes it is, people are expecting the NaruSaku one because thats what these so called "hints" that this person is even talking about lead to. Kishi has been known for throwing a curb ball. And the one sided thing again. That I dont understand. Why is this person throwing that out so much. It seems very well that this person's NaruSaku opinion is very one sided. NaruHina, I think is becoming more obvious. The "main" male as they are calling Naruto getting with the main female, Sakura is to cliche` for Kishimoto. Putting Naruto with Hinata, a "mere" side character would work perfectly.

Edit: The defintion for Main character has yet to come clear to me. If you ask me, someone who is concidered the main plot line. The SASUKE retrival arc, seems pretty mainish if you ask me.

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NaruSaku actually makes the most sense out of all the pairings. Although I'm afraid I'm not so confident in the author's abilities to create something out of that sense, because the ***MANGA SPOILER: Rescue Gaara mission: MANGA SPOILER*** isn't exactly good storyline material.

Well, this is interesting. Most sense? Isnt that what they were talking about. Thats a very one sided opinion on his/her part. Now, that doesnt make much sense to me seeing as this whole thing as been on the whole "one sided SasuSaku" pairing. Doubting Kishi's abilities. I dont think so, he has a brilliant mind, and I think, that if anyone agrees with me, the SasuSaku is going to become Canon. Seeing as Sasuke is his favorite. He would pair him with someone that could take care of him. And Sakura for sure will take care of Sasuke. We have already seen it.

Ahh, I think I tore that one apart pretty well. xp The whole NaruSaku gets me...A lot. Hate it. Lolx.

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:08 pm

That would be funny to quote all of. xD *shot*

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:31 am

Oh! Put me down! ^_^

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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:04 am

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Go wild.

I will. blaugh

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In the every day life do you think that Sasuke and Sakura would work? No way, man. Besides, it isn't Sasuke's character to love Sakura (or ANYONE). He's too insane and blood-thirsty to have any romantic liason whatsoever, and there's no one to help him except for Naruto. Plus, SasuSaku has been one-sided from the beginning.

I don't think it's not in Sasuke's character to love. I mean, he loved once - before Itachi killed his clan. He could honestly learn again, mostly because his two closest friends are two people who are bursting with love to give him - and one who has a lot of love to give has a lot of love to teach.

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Well, my liking for the NaruSaku pairing all started waaaayyy back in the early days when Naruto henge-ed into Sasuke to kiss Sakura. That was the time when Naruto fell in love with Sakura, and Sakura fell in love with Sasuke, seeing his soft side. But that's just it, she fell in love with Sasuke because he was Naruto pretending to be him. Have you guys ever considered that?

Not really. Mostly because I've never considered this to be a real pairing moment. Sakura was an immature fangirl then. She couldn't tell whether this was the real Sasuke or not because she was shallow and cared only for Sasuke's looks. The only Sasuke she sees is the outer Sasuke, so if anyone were to masquerade as him (like Naruto) she wouldn't know the difference since she has no in depth knowledge about Sasuke. So there was no real "love" in this scene.

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I like the way Naruto and Sakura are being nudged together ever so slowly... and not like how other pairings are expected to be. Throughout the course of the manga they have gotten closer and closer to each other, and unlike other pairings, it's not one-sided. If there really was going to be a NaruHina or a SasuSaku relationship, Kishimoto would've made them closer to each other, but no...it's the same as ever.

Yes. Too slowly to be canon, even.

NOT one-sided? Psh. What about 312, where Naruto asked Sakura out for a date and she utterly rejected him, telling him to study or train?

And yes, SasuSaku has been the same as ever mostly because Sasuke isn't in the village to make them grow closer. But then again, in part 1, why can't you call those times Sakura was able to get under Sasuke's skin moments? Sakura can get into Sasuke's head. Though it may have been one-sided, they STILL managed to grow closer to each other.

Regarding NaruHina, it's not the same as ever, though the change is very slight. Naruto tends to notice Hinata more (noticing when Hinata was nowhere around when Team 8 was reintroduced in Part 2), though it hasn't grown emotionally. But they've interacted and have become closer than when they were Academy students. Mostly because of the Hyuuga fight.

The closeness between Naruto and Sakura can still be easily seen as sibling-ship, while Sasuke and Sakura's type of closeness is a one-sided love/slow acceptance. While Sakura has made it clear that she loves Sasuke, she hasn't said anything about loving Naruto. Kind of makes it clear which one she loves, doesn't it?

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NaruSaku actually makes the most sense out of all the pairings. Although I'm afraid I'm not so confident in the author's abilities to create something out of that sense, because the ***MANGA SPOILER: Rescue Gaara mission: MANGA SPOILER*** isn't exactly good storyline material.

NaruSaku does NOT make sense to me as much as SasuSaku. I know canon moments when I see them.

Sakura worrying over Naruto does not make NaruSaku canon. It makes sibling-ship/bestfriend-ship canon between them. Can you NOT worry over a friend without you and him being paired?

Sakura telling Sasuke I love you makes SakuSasu (not SasuSaku) canon. It makes Sakura's feelings of love towards Sasuke canon. Has she once told Naruto she loved him? No.

Has she told Sasuke the same thing? Yes. Was she willing to throw her life in Konoha away for him just for him to get his revenge, with nothing in it for her except to care for Sasuke for the rest of her wretched life? Yes.

I rest my case.

Eh, BTW, Kairi-san, I think you should put this in the debate thread - it's been empty lately.

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:08 am

Great job so far, guys. x3

@tenshi: I would, but imogen recently changed the topic. I mean, yesterday-recently. And besides, it's up to her what goes there, not me.

@Ruingaraf: Added.

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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:02 am

Voted. <3

GAH. xD Kairi, I thought you didn't like the hug stuff. *being clung to*

Anyways. <3 And sorry if I repeat what others day...I haven't read the replies. o-o

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In the every day life do you think that Sasuke and Sakura would work? No way, man. Besides, it isn't Sasuke's character to love Sakura (or ANYONE). He's too insane and blood-thirsty to have any romantic liason whatsoever, and there's no one to help him except for Naruto. Plus, SasuSaku has been one-sided from the beginning.

Well, it really isn't Sasuke's character to love. However, that doesn't mean he's uncapable of it. Just because he has no interest whatsoever in a relationship doesn't mean that in the future it'll stay the same way.

It's not written in stone that SasuSaku is one-sided, and by that I mean that the fact that it IS one-sided NOW doesn't mean that it may still be that way in the future.

The statement that SasuSaku would never work really can't be proven or disproven until we see Sasuke's redemption, and future attitude, and Sakura's current feelings about Sasuke. Nobody knows the answer to that except for Kishimoto himself.

And I think that Naruto isn't the only person that can help Sasuke. Of course, Naruto was a HUGE part of Sasuke's life, and the fact that they were best friends makes me believe that Naruto indeed will help Sasuke. However, Sakura has a strong will to help, as well. We KNOW that. You can tell by her desire to bring Sasuke back home that she wants a part in helping out Sasuke, be it because she still loves him or because he was a teammate. Sakura may not have a big role like Naruto, but if she wants to bring Sasuke back that bad, then she will at least try to help.

I would also say that Kakashi would help as well. Kakashi doesn't seem all too concerned about Sasuke being with Orochimaru, but if Sasuke did come back, I can't see Kakashi just standing there and not being a part of it all. Kakashi had a MAJOR influence on Sasuke's life (and my KakaSasu liking has nothing to do with it), and I think that Kakashi would try to do SOMETHING about helping Sasuke.

And who knows? Maybe Sai may have a small part of it as well.

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Naruto and Hinata wouldn't work either. Naruto is blatant and outgoing, Hinata is shy and non-agressive. Naruto would likely go into action without considering the consequences, and Hinata wouldn't be able to stop him. Sakura would have. And why would Naruto, the main character of the show, be paired with a mere side character who has shown up in a total of three times in the manga?

A possible answer to that question: Because each time she appeared in the manga, there was the ever-so-obvious face that she likes Naruto. For something that is stressed so much, it'd be a little odd to just have nothing happen.

I'm going to leave it at that, since this isn't the NaruHina guild.

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Well, my liking for the NaruSaku pairing all started waaaayyy back in the early days when Naruto henge-ed into Sasuke to kiss Sakura. That was the time when Naruto fell in love with Sakura, and Sakura fell in love with Sasuke, seeing his soft side. But that's just it, she fell in love with Sasuke because he was Naruto pretending to be him. Have you guys ever considered that?

No, because in my own opinion, Sakura fell in love with Sasuke somewhere in the Haku/Zabuza ark and the chuunin exams.

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I like the way Naruto and Sakura are being nudged together ever so slowly... and not like how other pairings are expected to be. Throughout the course of the manga they have gotten closer and closer to each other, and unlike other pairings, it's not one-sided. If there really was going to be a NaruHina or a SasuSaku relationship, Kishimoto would've made them closer to each other, but no...it's the same as ever.

How can you even call it a sided relationship? It hasn't been said that Naruto still likes Sakura. It's true that he's asked her out and so forth, but I've seen nowhere in Part 2 of the manga where Naruto confesses that he still has a crush on Sakura, much less he loves her romantically. And as for Sakura, we don't know WHO she loves romantically as of now, if she even loves someone like that at all.

I don't see how you can say it's not a one-sided relationship or even a one-sided relationship when the feelings of both characters are that vague.

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NaruSaku actually makes the most sense out of all the pairings. Although I'm afraid I'm not so confident in the author's abilities to create something out of that sense, because the ***MANGA SPOILER: Rescue Gaara mission: MANGA SPOILER*** isn't exactly good storyline material.

Even if it DOES make more sense, I think it'd be too cliche. To me, that isn't exactly good "storyline material."

I don't think this makes sense. If I were a NaruSaku fan, I'd gain MORE confidence in the canon-ness of NaruSaku during the Rescue Gaara Ark.

And also, whether that Ark was good material or not (which I think it really WAS) doesn't change the fact that it happened, so why lose confidence when the author is giving hints to your favorite pairing?

But maybe I'm just understanding the statement wrong. xP

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