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 Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:21 pm
Deil Grist Azeiel The Fallen Deil Grist iAkura-kun The Criticizer No, he did not create the style. We don't even want the permission from the guild SL took from, we want it back to the very original owner of this style, it's creator. If you can't get this permission, the style is denied. I got permition from the Captain over at Shinobi Nations to use it in SL, GN and any other guild I'd want to use it so yea.... Thank you for that explanation about the genjutsu system. On another note i did as you guys asked and tracked a style back to its owner but the owner is not a member of gaia anymore. What do I do ? No problem! Then you would need the captain of whatever guild it was originally made in, or any guild with rights of distribution, to send me a PM with permission for our guuld to use it. They also need to conjure proof that they have those rights. O.o yea soooooo not worth it XD
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:42 pm
Azeiel The Fallen Deil Grist Azeiel The Fallen Deil Grist iAkura-kun The Criticizer No, he did not create the style. We don't even want the permission from the guild SL took from, we want it back to the very original owner of this style, it's creator. If you can't get this permission, the style is denied. I got permition from the Captain over at Shinobi Nations to use it in SL, GN and any other guild I'd want to use it so yea.... Thank you for that explanation about the genjutsu system. On another note i did as you guys asked and tracked a style back to its owner but the owner is not a member of gaia anymore. What do I do ? No problem! Then you would need the captain of whatever guild it was originally made in, or any guild with rights of distribution, to send me a PM with permission for our guuld to use it. They also need to conjure proof that they have those rights. O.o yea soooooo not worth it XD Ya, that's just what has to be done to prevent accusation if intellectual piracy. If you can't get permission, then just keep the theme but make new techniwues (and change the name, obviously).
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:46 pm
Deil Grist Azeiel The Fallen Deil Grist Azeiel The Fallen Deil Grist I would need direct written consent from the creator of the style and captain of the original guild it was created in (unless the guild has been deleted) before it can be processed and edited to fit the guild's systems. Thank you for that explanation about the genjutsu system. On another note i did as you guys asked and tracked a style back to its owner but the owner is not a member of gaia anymore. What do I do ? No problem! Then you would need the captain of whatever guild it was originally made in, or any guild with rights of distribution, to send me a PM with permission for our guuld to use it. They also need to conjure proof that they have those rights. O.o yea soooooo not worth it XD Ya, that's just what has to be done to prevent accusation if intellectual piracy. If you can't get permission, then just keep the theme but make new techniwues (and change the name, obviously). Lol I know WHY you do it I am just not willing to go to that extent to use that style is all XD
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:28 pm
On a side note, just because you post it on gaia, that doesn't actually mean that it's your "intellectual property". It's on the internet without a copyright, therefore technically free game. Just throwing that out there rolleyes
(You should still ask permission if you can, I just always think it's funny when people talk about intellectual property on gaia)
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:58 pm
Lance Fulgurant On a side note, just because you post it on gaia, that doesn't actually mean that it's your "intellectual property". It's on the internet without a copyright, therefore technically free game. Just throwing that out there rolleyes (You should still ask permission if you can, I just always think it's funny when people talk about intellectual property on gaia) Unless you're an Australian and posting from Australia because then I'm pretty sure our laws do give us instant copyright. razz
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:56 pm
Electric Parfait Lance Fulgurant On a side note, just because you post it on gaia, that doesn't actually mean that it's your "intellectual property". It's on the internet without a copyright, therefore technically free game. Just throwing that out there rolleyes (You should still ask permission if you can, I just always think it's funny when people talk about intellectual property on gaia) Unless you're an Australian and posting from Australia because then I'm pretty sure our laws do give us instant copyright. razz I don't know how your legal system works, but you'd be hard pressed to win a case of copyright infringement from someone using something you made up for gaia in another guild on gaia, or anywhere for that matter, in the states.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:34 am
I was just looking over my profile and I realized that the Strength Attribute does not increase the power of Kenjutsu techniques, so I guess my question is, why? If I'm stronger than someone else, does it not make sense that I would be able to put more force behind an attack utilizing a weapon in the same way that someone would be able to with their fists? Now of course I suppose that there might be some weapons where this might not apply, like a rapier, or whip or other weapons which require more finesse than brute strength, but what about something like a greatsword, or even just a katana?
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:36 am
I second this. It should at least allow the RPC to use the heavier weapons like Dai-Katana and Falchion's with greater ease.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:38 pm
Lance Fulgurant I was just looking over my profile and I realized that the Strength Attribute does not increase the power of Kenjutsu techniques, so I guess my question is, why? If I'm stronger than someone else, does it not make sense that I would be able to put more force behind an attack utilizing a weapon in the same way that someone would be able to with their fists? Now of course I suppose that there might be some weapons where this might not apply, like a rapier, or whip or other weapons which require more finesse than brute strength, but what about something like a greatsword, or even just a katana? Word of Deil: It does the description hasn't been updated or changed to include that clause since it was created.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:07 pm
Lance Fulgurant I was just looking over my profile and I realized that the Strength Attribute does not increase the power of Kenjutsu techniques, so I guess my question is, why? If I'm stronger than someone else, does it not make sense that I would be able to put more force behind an attack utilizing a weapon in the same way that someone would be able to with their fists? Now of course I suppose that there might be some weapons where this might not apply, like a rapier, or whip or other weapons which require more finesse than brute strength, but what about something like a greatsword, or even just a katana?
It requires + strength ranks to wield, or even pick up, but it is a MASSIVE weight. Things like great swords are heavy, but not to the point were they need to be + ranks to wield, just your every day common sense of not swinging it around like it is a short sword.
Also, it will not really up the power of most kenjutsu attack, since most kenjutsu attacks rely on the weapons cutting power, and not the power of the user. Say though two people clash swords, one person has +1, and the other person has +0 to there strength, obviously the person with +0 will feel more push back from the clash, and be put on the defensive.
So yes, in some cases of raw power with a sword would matter, but like you said, a Rapier, wip, or even a bow and arrow would not really get rank ups from having + ranks to strength. So simply saying it adds to kenjutsu attacks as well would not really be true. I do believe that the mention of raw power was illustrated in the description of the attribute, maybe not well enough.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:45 pm
-o-Havik-o- Lance Fulgurant I was just looking over my profile and I realized that the Strength Attribute does not increase the power of Kenjutsu techniques, so I guess my question is, why? If I'm stronger than someone else, does it not make sense that I would be able to put more force behind an attack utilizing a weapon in the same way that someone would be able to with their fists? Now of course I suppose that there might be some weapons where this might not apply, like a rapier, or whip or other weapons which require more finesse than brute strength, but what about something like a greatsword, or even just a katana?
It requires + strength ranks to wield, or even pick up, but it is a MASSIVE weight. Things like great swords are heavy, but not to the point were they need to be + ranks to wield, just your every day common sense of not swinging it around like it is a short sword.
Also, it will not really up the power of most kenjutsu attack, since most kenjutsu attacks rely on the weapons cutting power, and not the power of the user. Say though two people clash swords, one person has +1, and the other person has +0 to there strength, obviously the person with +0 will feel more push back from the clash, and be put on the defensive.
So yes, in some cases of raw power with a sword would matter, but like you said, a Rapier, wip, or even a bow and arrow would not really get rank ups from having + ranks to strength. So simply saying it adds to kenjutsu attacks as well would not really be true. I do believe that the mention of raw power was illustrated in the description of the attribute, maybe not well enough.
Real life: The distance and force behind an arrow is proportionate to a degree, to ones Strength. More strength would allow greater control with a whip and increase its speed providing finesse was used to compensate for the increased strength behind it. A Rapier's thrust penetration would be quite dependent on the force one could put behind it, and strength would have an impact as to how deep you could cut with a swipe without compromising the blade's integrity. Not too mention all light weapons get even lighter with more strength.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:02 pm
Thats all true, but one of our regular ninja have more strength than a real life person would have.
Tak Miho and Havik. Miho uses a Bow, pulls the string all the way back just before the point wear it snaps, that would not take a extraordinary feat of strength, normal people do it all the time.
Now Havik does the same thing, and uses all his muscle to pull the bow string just as far back, the arrow goes just as far, and just as strong, none of Havik's muscles make it stronger.
There is some strength needed to wield a whip yes, but not a large amount, a whips "power" does not rely so much on the force of the swing, as it does the flick of the wrist after the swing, or the "crack" of the whip. There is some difference, but not a great deal.
A thrust attack with a weapon would fall under the raw power category imo.
and I am not saying there is no difference, I am just saying there is not one that really matters, in certain situation a kenjutsu attack will rely heavily on brute force, some times it does not, common sense is what filters the two out, the list for explaining every situation it counts, and does not count would be very very long.
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:20 am
Alright, so what I'm getting from this is that, yes, the strength attribute does increase Kenjutsu attacks power, but only in cases where it would make since. Also, while a regular bow and arrow would not receive any bonus from being stronger due to the nature of its design, compound bows are in fact designed to utilize a persons full strength in that it is harder to pull the string back, but it will send the arrow much further and put more piercing power behind it if the person has the strength to pull it back.
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:33 am
Lance Fulgurant Alright, so what I'm getting from this is that, yes, the strength attribute does increase Kenjutsu attacks power, but only in cases where it would make since. Also, while a regular bow and arrow would not receive any bonus from being stronger due to the nature of its design, compound bows are in fact designed to utilize a persons full strength in that it is harder to pull the string back, but it will send the arrow much further and put more piercing power behind it if the person has the strength to pull it back.
...however there is nothing against creating a bow which has a very tight string, which was specially made so that only those of the appropriate strength can draw them. Such a benefit would have to be mentioned as part of a custom though. Otherwise, a bow is just a bow.
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:45 am
Cobra_X Lance Fulgurant Alright, so what I'm getting from this is that, yes, the strength attribute does increase Kenjutsu attacks power, but only in cases where it would make since. Also, while a regular bow and arrow would not receive any bonus from being stronger due to the nature of its design, compound bows are in fact designed to utilize a persons full strength in that it is harder to pull the string back, but it will send the arrow much further and put more piercing power behind it if the person has the strength to pull it back.
...however there is nothing against creating a bow which has a very tight string, which was specially made so that only those of the appropriate strength can draw them. Such a benefit would have to be mentioned as part of a custom though. Otherwise, a bow is just a bow.
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