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You know my view on random anything for stats or for anything else like that. Even places like Neopets (God awful example I know) allow you to reroll stats until you're satisfied, and give you three to choose from every roll. People don't want to base their entire RPing experience on chance, and then end up not joining because they say 'bullshit' to the rolls.

You should try just having something more solid, like 'you are this 'level' or 'experience level' so you start with this many points.

Like veterans like us would start at a higher standing, but new people joining as newbies would start at whatever we want to call them (i.e. peon) and have a greatly reduced amount of points to work with. This allows them to structure the points to their character wherever they need it. If they want strength based, dexterity based, etc.

If you want after all of that to have something that makes a form of differential that will make now two people alike, have a roll of some sore post base stats. That way they know where they start, and then it's like adding the cherry to the topping.

Examples for levels would be like...

Peon < Initiate < Student < Sempai < Sensei

Or some other ideas that you guys would throw in I was just bullshiting that. Just basically anywhere you can remove random variables would not only lessen arguments and moderating from our part, but entice more people to come in and make the application process easier and faster to get through. Basically, prime thing of not scaring people away.

As for stats, do you want to the the basic STR, AGI, DEX, INT, LUK, VIT? Or did you want to get a little more advanced with it?

Some people will still have characters, they just generally won't be the main ones.

our main characters from 100 years ago will be treated more like NPC's who come and go, but our current main characters will be new and unrelated to the old ones

ok, so if we don't have stats, what's the alternative again?
I don't fully understand what you mean by leave it at the rolls
where are the health points? and the damage points

also tut im very impressed you found that thread, i may read back in it.

I had that thread subscribed. <3 (All my old threads I keep.)

I agree. We shouldn't be blocked from using our old characters if they would still exist. Not having them as a main part of the missions is one thing (like they can be used but maybe to push some story, or because they initiated the mission, etc.,) but they should not be excluded.

I have no problem making a new character on top of that if I have to, I just know that I don't want to burn off Fenris just because it's a revamped RP when she would most definitely be alive. Again, I'm not really interested in the missions and fighting part, just in keeping us from not pissing members off before they join.



As for the rolls thing, I meant the strengths, moderates, weaknesses. There are BEYOND enough spots in that system to put 'agility,' 'defense,' magic defense,' etc. into those slots. I just tried to fill offensive abilities out for Fenris from the heck of it and had six slots left over. Some characters might need that many spaces, but all I can see if the opportunity to have something for blocking, dodging, speed (for first strike,) etc. Accuracy would be dealt with wit the weapon's proficiency, and strength could be a different roll altogether.

(We would probably need a separate thread for dice rolls, but that's the fun of playing a dice system on a place like Gaia that isn't suited for multiple rolls.)

So it's be the 1-3 6 sided die from the person that initiates the attack, then on the thread the defensive player rolls whatever they have for if they dodge or block. If they fail to block / dodge, then the offensive rolls and the defensive player uses that roll to deem how much damage they take and how. (Some people might sacrifice an arm before they take a shot to the heart or something crazy like that.)

Dice roll games always had a defensive roll, and that seems like the only efficient way to do it besides...

Having the offensive roll with their post as an attempted strike, then rolls how much damage in another thread for if it is successful (just to speed things up). Defensive rolls with a blank post, then edits post to add in the reaction from the roll (I.E. whether or not it strikes) and uses the information from the damage roll to add into it.

The issue with the last option is that then they cannot have a roll for a return offensive.

Another less annoying option is that we just have the rolls to RP out that people are getting hit, and we trust them to know that 'hey, if your tendon gets sliced, you better know healing, or you're not using that limb and probably on the ground crying for your mommy.'

The more complicated it is, again, the longer things will take and the more people that will say '******** this' and rage quit for a walk in or a fighting RP that doesn't restrict everything they do. Again, this is Gaia, not a DnD tabletop game. People come here for that freedom because there are plenty of dice roll RP sites I've seen that are fairly popular they could go to have dice rule their life. We should be focusing on how to make this as simple as possible if anything, not how to be a pain in someone's behind.

Also made a mockup of a profile form with the code in the spoiler below. I'm working on an example profile form. http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/test-forum/cooking-sherry-s-post-formats/t.81883045_76/#82

ok idk how else to say this lol, it's like ridiculously simple
our old characters won't be our main characters, that's my point
they'll drop in and out from time to time to help the main characters out
dw about it, seriously, like, ROFL it's not important, and not set in stone, and we should strive for not RPing our old characters 24/7
that's it

the thing that would be truly unfair is to have our old characters be our main ones, while everyone else who's new is screwed
we all start new, that's fair



ok h/o, let me show you my example in my next post of what I was imagining how the stats would work

(post while rolling a 10 sided dice, and number of dice 10)
(throw out the lowest 3 #'s, assign the rest)
2, 9, 10, 2, 9, 5, 9, 8, 6, 9

name: Kenji Asdf
age: 17
personality: cocky
what do you look like (and or description):

short bio: Kenji Asdf grew up in a quiet farm town. One day, a group of bandits spotted the small town, and setup camp on the outskirts so as to prepare for their invasion. Kenji, being the smart kid that he was, noticed the potential incursion when he was roaming the wilds one day. He carefully planned his attack and struck at the group when they were asleep. He left one bandit alive to tell the tale. This bandit went back to the main group and told them of what happened, that a teenager wiped them out (with inaccurate details about the whole thing, so as to not seem like an idiot for not keeping a lookout awake).

stats
strength: 6
dexterity: 9
magic: 8
health points: 19 (10 starting + 9)
intelligence: 10
speech: 9
fame: 9
(wow what a bad example for a roll LOL)

now I'm not so sure about rolling like that anymore
I think we should just give enough points so that you'd be able to have 3 high stats out of the 7 stats starting out

30 points to allocate (can only put a max of 10 during character creation)
strength: 1
dexterity: 2
magic: 1
health points: 18 (10 starting + 8 )
intelligence: 8
speech: 8
fame: 2

edit: maybe the health points should be that everyone starts with 10 automatically, and any more points will be extra, like strength's logic
edited the previous posts to reflect that