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Caleidah

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:33 pm


DarkElf27
Cale, can you try and use links instead for images that large?

Sure, but it's not like it stretches the page at all. Will edit it right now, though.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:45 am


Image size policing aside..

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I'm going to take this data and conjecture what we can about the likely army list unless there's an FOC modulation as there was with SWolf HQ's.


I'm doing this to project what we know, what we have from the rumors, and what we are sure to be pushed to buy into a coherent whole. I'm trying to leverage the unique points of BA as I recall them...in the SW dex everything that was special about the wolves got its amps turned up to eleven. We have no reason to think otherwise.

Call this a wishlist if you like. I call it an intelligence assessment.
(CONJECTURAL)
HQ:
(from BunBun @ warseer
Dante- As is now but axe will be +1S. Can take an honor guard assault squad.
Lemartes- Can restrain the Death company.
Corbulo- Will allow unit he joins to be Fearless and Feel no Pain. Grail counts as a holy relic.
Moriar- Death Company Venerable Furioso Dreadnought. Nearly duble the number of attacks of a normal dreadnought.
Tycho- Gives preferred enemy against Orks.
Sergeant special character- No details as yet.
(end BunBun)
Captain (unlocks and honor guard (conjecture); unlocks troop bikers per SM dex (conjecture).
SC's etc. (Conjecture, some kind of character that enhances flamers; makes dreads scoring, etc.)

ELITE
Veterans/Honor Guard
(rumored elsewhere from biglou) SC dread w/1-3 bodyguard of other dreads (deathco), takes up a heavy slot too.
Terminators that are esp. good at teleports (noted in press release text)
Venerable (Venerable Furioso)
Scouts? (might end up in Troops or FA; they're fleet, which is interesting.
Techpriest (incl. special one ordered. Conjecture: the SC will Bless vehicles to move as fast, or else move fast with him in them.)

TROOPS
Assault Squad, some # of free p'pistols and two Assault weapons. conjecture: Storm shield option for sgt.
Tacsquad with Auspex sgt, supercharged rhinos. (conjecture: one Tac can take an LR dedicated; would allow LR's on field given crowding in HS. They want us to buy the special LR pretty bad, right?)
Conjecture: Cheaper upgrade on Razorback to Heavy flamers/assault cannon.
Scouts? (with a box set on release this is going to have some push to it, don't know if it will be an abundance or a quality push).

FA
Squad with wings (exalted assault sqad) (likely vampire angel aesthetic) will DS, Storm Bolters, S5 sword (frost axe analogue). (conjecture: likely to have an invulnerable save).
Land Speeder Storm with (at least) fluff on scouts riding to hackzone in it. Possible rule allowing scouts to disembark/assault on turn of landing (I believe that Codex marines can't?). Conjecture: Possible ability to squad up LSS's. Possible rule allowing cerebus launcher to affect other nearby squads.
Furioso Dread, has fleet, maybe hellhound template projection ability (or upgrade to it).
(possibility of Baal pred here when unlocked by a character)
Scout bikers with a (conjectural) heavy flamer option.
Bikers with a Heavy flamer option, maybe an attack bike with some kind of large template weapon.
The rumored flying vehicle. I'm very incredulous that this will show up personally, but if it does I call a 'baby thawk' that'll transport tac squads (perhaps only 5/6 models) and have weaponry along the lines of 2 MLs and TLAC. Will definitely have the iconic D-Day landing craft meme-ramp if it does.

HSUPP
Fancy Land Raider (with assault cannons?)
Fancy Devastators with cheap LC, (CONJECTURE) maybe ability to shoot from moving rhino.
Ironclad Dread (with the push for dreads this will land here, perhaps with an option for a hellhound weapon)
Baal Pred, possibly with new sponson options or POMS. Possibility of swapping turret w/Assault cannons for a hellhound weapon.


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i personally think its a one handed melta for assault squads.

also:

3 plastic kits one of which uses the valkerie stand/base (space marine flyer?definatly NOT a thunderhawk)
1 of the other kits is also airborne.

courtesy of scryer in the darkness who has been told:

predator repackaged to include baal variant aswell as a plastic venerable dreadnaught to be release in march alongside battle missions.

the picture was also from scryer aswell as the valkerie stand/base bit (above).

new metal minis will on par between vanguard and legion of the damned.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:43 am


What I'm wondering though is why turn the Blood Angels into a Dreadnought heavy army? Wouldn't an army with strong ties to machines and the Adeptus Mechanicus be a better base for this?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:58 am


Because they have the killiest dreadnoughts around?
Some of this looks to be pretty awesome as far as rules potential goes. I'm not sure of the fluff backing of the more accurate deep striking is, though. I thought the rumored flying vehicle was going to be a part of Dark Angels, but I may have read wrong.

Caleidah

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:02 pm


It's all conjecture and idle piecing together of things, nothing substantial just yet.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:45 pm


they cant get a new kit till I get a new Bjorn the Fel Handed

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:28 pm


eek By Lion´s Mane! surprised
Surely now the players can rejoice of facing the true BA´s again. biggrin
Well...maybe in oppoments case it´s happyness and slow realasation that
they are screwed..... <.<"


Seems like the joined DA+BA codex was just a myth,
the idea itself is abit funny and odd at the sametime.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:40 am


There used to be an Angels of Death codex that tackled both the Blood and Dark Angels.

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Also, I'd like it if we could skip the bit where everybody is whining about how overpowered and dangerous the new codex is going to be. It's getting rather old fast.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:16 pm


I've heard talk of being able to field nine dreadnoughts. confused
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:07 pm


Lt. Brookman
There used to be an Angels of Death codex that tackled both the Blood and Dark Angels.

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Also, I'd like it if we could skip the bit where everybody is whining about how overpowered and dangerous the new codex is going to be. It's getting rather old fast.


Yeah, I´ve heard that DA and BA was one before.
I was just pointing that the idea now would be abit silly and sign on lazyness,
sorry if I gave the wrong idea. sweatdrop

As for the OP rant, like my friend says about WoW;
People whining about classes being OP is a sign that wow works. :b

Need to try look for that codex, I wanna read just for the heck of it. xD


Lady Blodwynn
I've heard talk of being able to field nine dreadnoughts. confused


I´m not suprised, except that BA´s can do that? O.o
Shouldn´t it be Iron Hand´s or other BoM related chapter.....

DA´s used to be able to have 11 Land Raiders
(Need to double check if I remeber it right),
due to because they could be taken as either Heavy Support choice or
as a Transport, so you´d have 6 for termies, 3 as heavy support and 2 for commanders/chaplains/librarian.
Only problem was that it´ll take all your armies total point value just to GET
the 11 land raiders. :b

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Caleidah

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:53 pm


Asmondai

DA´s used to be able to have 11 Land Raiders
(Need to double check if I remeber it right),
due to because they could be taken as either Heavy Support choice or
as a Transport, so you´d have 6 for termies, 3 as heavy support and 2 for commanders/chaplains/librarian.
Only problem was that it´ll take all your armies total point value just to GET
the 11 land raiders. :b

Totally worth it.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:45 pm


indeed  

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:17 am


continues to complain about getting a new Bjorn
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:20 am


Mat
continues to complain about getting a new Bjorn
Nobody ever gets what they want.

Well, except for me getting Valkyries. pirate

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:40 am


Bjorn might be a model that might never pop up, or will be saved for a later release. Maybe with the release of the plastic venerable dreadnought we'll also get the option for Bjorn. Though that is a bit of a long shot. sweatdrop
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