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 Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 9:32 pm
Ah. I had a Question about Blood Quest.
PLEASE ANSWER!
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 9:36 pm
Ok, So the Demon Prince Of Khorne has a Bunch Of Wives in the Comic.
HOW?! If they are Demon Princes Of Khorne, then how is that allowed?
Not sure if that asks the question requesting the info I wanted to know about.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:51 am
i dont get your question...
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:40 am
NovaBrightStar Ok, So the Demon Prince Of Khorne has a Bunch Of Wives in the Comic. HOW?! If they are Demon Princes Of Khorne, then how is that allowed? Not sure if that asks the question requesting the info I wanted to know about. ** Dude, you are making no sense at all. Seriously.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:41 am
Nyghtbringer My question is this, why would GW remain unbalanced, when I know that John Spencer regularly speaks with the representatives from England? I happen to have met John Spencer, and also Robert Villnave, and finally Bill Brokstan.
All who send updates to me, for I used to be an employee for GW, about such things. That is a little tidbit I never stated before. I used to work at GW for three years as a college job.
Robert Villnave is the one who sends me the new codex updates and the such.
John Spencer is my individual rules updater, but those e-mails do not go to John Spencer directly, mind you. They are met with other people, who sign it in his name. Further questioning was sent to his private e-mail, and here is where it came out:
There are NO new ideas for Kaos Terminators as ov yet. And will not be until, as we all know the release ov the Tyranids in June, the Wood Elf release in August, and then MAYBE the Eldar in December. You are looking at another year before Kaos is even touched.
In essence, do not get one's hope up. Alright, I now go with whatever Nyght says from now on. She WORKED at GW, that is enough for me. No resizing MY bases. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:05 am
In Blood Quest, they had this Demon Prince on a ship that was a Khornate Demon Prince, and he was talking about Killing the Blood Angels and making Necklaces for his Wives.
How did he have wives if he was Khornate?
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:36 am
NovaBrightStar In Blood Quest, they had this Demon Prince on a ship that was a Khornate Demon Prince, and he was talking about Killing the Blood Angels and making Necklaces for his Wives. How did he have wives if he was Khornate? ** It's a commen misconception about chaos that all they do is kill and do battle. You have to think of them like the warrior nations of ancient times. In battle they are ruthless, and devastating, but when they are not at war they are still capable of acting human. Having conversation, raising, and running cities/deamon worlds etc, etc, etc.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:42 am
xUnknownxAngelx NovaBrightStar In Blood Quest, they had this Demon Prince on a ship that was a Khornate Demon Prince, and he was talking about Killing the Blood Angels and making Necklaces for his Wives. How did he have wives if he was Khornate? ** It's a commen misconception about chaos that all they do is kill and do battle. You have to think of them like the warrior nations of ancient times. In battle they are ruthless, and devastating, but when they are not at war they are still capable of acting human. Having conversation, raising, and running cities/deamon worlds etc, etc, etc. Actually, I would not say human, more semi-human. If they were human, they would still be able to feel certain emotions. As it stands, they are more basic than most humans ever achieve, in the way of emotions. Yes they have wives, but they are little more than tools to them, as far as I can tell. I am sure the try to ACT human, but it is undoubtedly certain they are not.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:57 am
It mentioned him Loving his wives, but killing just about everybody else, aside from them, and his intepretor.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:00 am
NovaBrightStar It mentioned him Loving his wives, but killing just about everybody else, aside from them, and his intepretor. ** Regardless, I find it hard to believe that A monster that worships Khorne is capable of more than lust. More than likely, they were daemons themselves, so I see little reason to think it was avything more than lust.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:02 am
They actually were Demonettes, but he still cared about them, according to the Interpretor.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:06 am
NovaBrightStar They actually were Demonettes, but he still cared about them, according to the Interpretor. ** Regardless, I put no faith in the interpretor. I assure you, I know what it is like to be taken over by the lust for battle, and it leaves no room for anything more than the base emotions, and cold logic.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:30 pm
There's more to the Chaos marines than,"We's spikey, let's kill stuff."
They aren't just an abstract evil, they're fallen warriors, each a great hero in his own right, who allowed their pride and their love[1] for humanity to delude them into betraying the man to who they had sworn loyalty, and the empirewhich they had helped to build. In the process, they sacrificed their free-will, and became servants of ancient parasitic beings, and and betrayed everything they had held dear.
Sure, the Chaos marines are monsterous and inhuman, but even after 10000 years they still have some last vestage of humanity lurking there beneath the surface. If it wasn't for that faint remnant of their humanity, they'd be just a bunch of marine-shaped cardboard cut-outs with horns and spikes. That's what would allow a Daemon prince to feel even a vague shadow of love...
At their extremes. the lines between love and hate start to blur. Otherwise, Divorces wouldn't be anywhere near as messy as they are.
[1] Keep in mind that the word love covers a whole host of concepts, some of which don't have seperate words availible for them in English...
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 pm
Dread Lime There's more to the Chaos marines than,"We's spikey, let's kill stuff." They aren't just an abstract evil, they're fallen warriors, each a great hero in his own right, who allowed their pride and their love[1] for humanity to delude them into betraying the man to who they had sworn loyalty, and the empirewhich they had helped to build. In the process, they sacrificed their free-will, and became servants of ancient parasitic beings, and and betrayed everything they had held dear. Sure, the Chaos marines are monsterous and inhuman, but even after 10000 years they still have some last vestage of humanity lurking there beneath the surface. If it wasn't for that faint remnant of their humanity, they'd be just a bunch of marine-shaped cardboard cut-outs with horns and spikes. That's what would allow a Daemon prince to feel even a vague shadow of love... At their extremes. the lines between love and hate start to blur. Otherwise, Divorces wouldn't be anywhere near as messy as they are. [1] Keep in mind that the word love covers a whole host of concepts, some of which don't have seperate words availible for them in English... Alright, first off, you seem to forget. Divorces are A relatively NEW concept. At least in european based divergent belief systems. As A matter of fact, before the last 125 years, there may have been 500 divorces in the last 2 MILLENIA. They were just not done. Second, love is A more ADVANCED emotion, and if you did not hear me correctly, KHORNITES ARE IN A RELATIVELY CONSTANT STATE OF BLOODLUST. Meaning that they can feel no more than base emotions, like LUST. Fact is, when they decided to betray everything they believed in, they gave up most of their higher beliefs. Love would be one of those.
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:28 am
Actually, Divorce is a very old concept, and exists in one form or another within every culture with a formalised system of marriage. It only became common within the last 40 years or so, following the womens lib movement and the push to remove the social stigma from dissolving a marriage.
The real issue here is whether or not a minion of Khorne is nothing more than a frothing psychopath who spends all his waking hours looking for stuff to kill. The World Eaters, specificly Kharn, are a good argument for this; but that doesn't change the fact that Khorne embodies far more than mere homicidal rage. Even if they do exist in a near consant state of bezerk rage, they would still have their lucid moments, and that rage wouldn't neccesarily negate the ability to experiance other emotions.
One could easily argue that Spacemarines in general a bunch of sociopaths, and that the colosest they can come to true love is more akin to the fondness most people have for a pet.
Of course, the World Eaters were always a bit... ...off. I suspect that even had then Horus Heresy not occured, The Emperor would eventually have had to send the other legions to put them down. 3nodding
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