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So that's how it is. Finally, I have the picture cleared in my head. I'll edit my post once I am done with dinner.

Uhh... time limit anyone?

Athena, if you're lifting me from ABOVE my center of gravity, you're not going to be able to flip me over. Your legs/feet would have to be lower than my hips, which they are not.

And you CANNOT say that you grab me anyway, because that's puppeting. If I'm going to release your hand, I'm not going to keep my hand within range for you to grab back onto it. I've been very lax about this, letting you grab me when I could logically say that there would be no way for you to do so. So please, just take a hit and get it over with.

Had you been making attacks instead of just responding to my actions, I would have taken a hit by now, so do NOT tell me that I'm being hypocritical.

You say that I'm telling you what you cannot do, but you're telling me how I'm shifting my own weight.

I pushed with my upper body, force coming from ab strength. When you fell, I compensated for my upper body's forward shift by sticking my a** out, like anyone would to retain their balance. If I'm saying that I'm retaining my balance, you can't tell me that I'm not.

Since I stuck my a** out and let my arms extend with you, I'm only leaning slightly forward, with most of my weight based in my hip/butt/lower body region. In this position, if your feet are not below my center of gravity, you're not going to be flipping me anywhere. Especially since I'm one and a third times your weight. I compensated by saying that the force you had used lifted me up, but couldn't move the majority of my weight in a completely new direction (flipping me around). I also compensated for the left arm hold by saying that I moved to my left when lifted.

As for the grabbing of my right arm, I'm going to go back and specify. I realize now that I hadn't put in what I thought I had, which was to release and automatically draw back for the punch. Thus, my arm would have been out of your reach, especially since you'd be pushing me away from you with your legs.

But I am going to tell you that you can't defy the laws of physics. In order to move something and control its movement with ease/minimal effort, you need to put force below its center of gravity. You would need to apply way more force than your character is physically capable of in order to start moving something heavier than you, namely my character, around with force being applied above the center of gravity.

You have to play within your character's limitations. Your character weighs exactly one pound more than I do, but is seven inches taller. I am fit, athletic and have very little body fat. If I were to be stretched out another seven inches without a weight change, I would be much frailer and have far less power. My character, on the other hand, is two inches shorter than yours with forty more pounds. She is also extremely fit, so the majority of her weight is muscle. (Honestly, she's massive for a woman.) I don't see how it would be physically possible for a taller, less powerful me to throw around someone physically/muscularly equivalent to a man. Hell, I can hardly throw around people my own size.

So when I say that something isn't physically possible, that's what I'm referring to. Regardless of how fit your character is, she doesn't have the weight to support the theory of having that kind of power. Your character is speed, mine is brute strength. And I'm the only one playing within my character's limitations.

xd You guys are still going at it?

I have no need to correct your actions. I am simply following your reactions and referring to how they be in comparison to the actions of my character. That is my post, and I am not editing. No longer am I am giving any more leeway. I believe this is how my post should be. I've had it now with you continuing to say what I am doing wrong. Before, I was okay with it only because I was not clear of how you were doing something. But now, you've reached the line of "it cannot be done." So, instead of editing my post, I'm standing by it, because I believe I can do what I said in my post, and have given all evidence of it being possible.

From what I have seen, this fight has reached a massive dead end in both motivation and actual purpose. Take it how you like it.

I just say they call it a tie and both walk away with their money. No champion. But this tournament lacked some rules from what I can see. If he did it similar to some of the competitions where a referee would be controlling the match, I bet it would have ran smoothly. And a scoring system should have been here, too, so after the match is ended, a panel of judges will use a point system to see who won.