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 Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:29 pm
Wantcookie Zahmen II I can see how "two no lynches in two days" might be a dumb idea, but if you're so sure we're about to lynch an innocent why not step in when you ONE VOTE could make a difference? Is this what people are hung up about? By the time Kuzo changed his vote, there was quite literally less than a minute until the end of the day. I almost stepped in there, but didn't out of both a sense of self-preservation and the knowledge that there was no chance I'd make it. Be honest, how suspicious would it be for someone to step in at the very last second to save someone else when they had just finished saying they might abstain from voting? It makes both the rescuer and the rescued look very convincingly like mafia. Well there is that and the whole "Riding the fence so hard she needs to buy it a license plate for it" thing
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:39 pm
Alright well, I went over what everybody had to say about their suspicions of STAG and while I'm not convinced the only other people I was actually suspicious of got dead last turn.
Vote STAG
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:06 pm
Cabron LaSwan Sweet Amber Lynne Cabron LaSwan So who do you suspect now then? Or are you just gonna not be certain again and indirectly steer the lynch that way? I mean come on. It's bad enough when people don't even show up to vote - when they show up and don't, despite disagreeing with the lynch... well, if you're mafia, it makes sense that you wouldn't want to sabotage your team's efforts, but if you're town, I am so mad at you right now. i understand you would be mad at the people who didnt vote, me being one of them. as a townie it was the stupidest thing we could have done. i cant change that i didnt vote but i would like to explain why. i really didnt want to vote for haru because there was no real evidence against him.The only person who started to look guilty to me was kuzo because he kept pushing the lynch so hard even tho everyone kept saying there wasnt enough evidence. i was going to vote for kuzo just before end of day which is when i started to think it but then realized that i to have had a gut feeling about someone. i wasn't sure what to do and if i did a no lynch i was afraid that everyone would just say that i bandwagoned It's true, you and STAG were both in the thread at the time he roleclaimed. One of you could have easily saved him by throwing a vote on No Lynch; neither of you did.
Now, you didn't post again after his roleclaim, so I can assume that you left. But STAG posted twice and still did not cast a vote. Dessy was also in the thread at the time of the roleclaim and did not change her vote.
Now, I'm not saying that it's impossible that you didn't believe him, but it's also possible that the death of the cop could have been a boon to either of you. I think it would have been too big a bluff to call for a cautious townie, and I'm suspicious of the fact that neither of you seemed to acknowledge it at all; kind of like you were hoping the lynch would go through silently. i honestly didn't see him role claim or i would have voted a no lynch so that our cop wasn't killed. im not going to sit here and say its not partly my fault because it is and im sorry kuzo. If i did happen to see his role claim i would have voted for a no-lynch myself i know a no lynch wouldn't have helped us but it would have saved a valuable townie. How would the death of the cop be beneficial to me?
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:13 pm
Sweet Amber Lynne How would the death of the cop be beneficial to me? To answer the posed question; you would certainly benefit from it if you were part of the mafia. Then again allegro told us you were the bomb, so no one wants to actually target you do they? that's a really convenient situation.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:17 pm
I'm gonna pile on another vote for STAG. I don't want to lynch her without hearing a bit more, but sometimes you have to vote for them to get them to show up. XD
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:21 pm
Rhed King Sweet Amber Lynne How would the death of the cop be beneficial to me? To answer the posed question; you would certainly benefit from it if you were part of the mafia. Then again allegro told us you were the bomb, so no one wants to actually target you do they? that's a really convenient situation. Yeah, but nobody has called bomb or scientist. I mean, if they were bluffing, they'd have been ousted by now by the real owners of the roles. I really think chasing them's a dead end, unless they somehow psychically predicted which two roles would be completely inactive so they could steal them.
Also I forgot to bold it last post, but vote STAG
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:27 pm
At this point in the night we have plenty of time to figure things out; if we can pull out at least an explanation that makes enough sense to me. So for now, sure, I'll VOTE: STAG
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:27 pm
Cabron LaSwan Rhed King Sweet Amber Lynne How would the death of the cop be beneficial to me? To answer the posed question; you would certainly benefit from it if you were part of the mafia. Then again allegro told us you were the bomb, so no one wants to actually target you do they? that's a really convenient situation. Yeah, but nobody has called bomb or scientist. I mean, if they were bluffing, they'd have been ousted by now by the real owners of the roles. I really think chasing them's a dead end, unless they somehow psychically predicted which two roles would be completely inactive so they could steal them.
Also I forgot to bold it last post, but vote STAG they may not want to say anything to stay hidden, and im a townie so killing off the cop wouldn't be beneficial to me.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:32 pm
Sweet Amber Lynne Cabron LaSwan Rhed King Sweet Amber Lynne How would the death of the cop be beneficial to me? To answer the posed question; you would certainly benefit from it if you were part of the mafia. Then again allegro told us you were the bomb, so no one wants to actually target you do they? that's a really convenient situation. Yeah, but nobody has called bomb or scientist. I mean, if they were bluffing, they'd have been ousted by now by the real owners of the roles. I really think chasing them's a dead end, unless they somehow psychically predicted which two roles would be completely inactive so they could steal them.
Also I forgot to bold it last post, but vote STAG they may not want to say anything to stay hidden, and im a townie so killing off the cop wouldn't be beneficial to me. I guess it's theoretically possible, but I really doubt a role like a bomb would stay hidden when the payoff would be catching two Mafia in a lie.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:42 pm
*Dessy- I really enjoy Kuzo when he is not being a d**k, his accusing people then is just funny.
I don't agree with LPS saying a vote would be turning against Kuzo, yeah the mafia could try and do that. Or since they might find that difficult, they could just not bother and kill him tonight.*
im suspicious of dessy she was the one who put the idea of kuzo being killed off last night and then he ended up being killed. FOS DESSY
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:43 pm
Cabron LaSwan Sweet Amber Lynne Cabron LaSwan Rhed King Sweet Amber Lynne How would the death of the cop be beneficial to me? To answer the posed question; you would certainly benefit from it if you were part of the mafia. Then again allegro told us you were the bomb, so no one wants to actually target you do they? that's a really convenient situation. Yeah, but nobody has called bomb or scientist. I mean, if they were bluffing, they'd have been ousted by now by the real owners of the roles. I really think chasing them's a dead end, unless they somehow psychically predicted which two roles would be completely inactive so they could steal them.
Also I forgot to bold it last post, but vote STAG they may not want to say anything to stay hidden, and im a townie so killing off the cop wouldn't be beneficial to me. I guess it's theoretically possible, but I really doubt a role like a bomb would stay hidden when the payoff would be catching two Mafia in a lie. ...What if they're switched? Like, Allegro is Bomb and Amber is Scientist? I'm trying to think of why that would be useful right now, but the thought just occurred to me. If they're working together, nobody would be able to call them on their lie, even if it means they're not mafia. Nothing is coming to me for reasons that might be the case, though, so disregard this unless you can think of something better. EDIT: Maybe they're trying to bait the mafia into taking out the Bomb, which would kill one of them off?
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:46 pm
Sweet Amber Lynne *Dessy- I really enjoy Kuzo when he is not being a d**k, his accusing people then is just funny.
I don't agree with LPS saying a vote would be turning against Kuzo, yeah the mafia could try and do that. Or since they might find that difficult, they could just not bother and kill him tonight.* im suspicious of dessy she was the one who put the idea of kuzo being killed off last night and then he ended up being killed. FOS DESSY Yeah, but the same situation applies here that Rhed brought up earlier about LPS. She said this on Day Two, after Kuzo had already been poisoned.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:51 pm
Wantcookie Sweet Amber Lynne *Dessy- I really enjoy Kuzo when he is not being a d**k, his accusing people then is just funny.
I don't agree with LPS saying a vote would be turning against Kuzo, yeah the mafia could try and do that. Or since they might find that difficult, they could just not bother and kill him tonight.* im suspicious of dessy she was the one who put the idea of kuzo being killed off last night and then he ended up being killed. FOS DESSY Yeah, but the same situation applies here that Rhed brought up earlier about LPS. She said this on Day Two, after Kuzo had already been poisoned. but if she is mafia then wouldn't she know who was poisoned the night before?
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:04 pm
Sweet Amber Lynne Wantcookie Sweet Amber Lynne *Dessy- I really enjoy Kuzo when he is not being a d**k, his accusing people then is just funny.
I don't agree with LPS saying a vote would be turning against Kuzo, yeah the mafia could try and do that. Or since they might find that difficult, they could just not bother and kill him tonight.* im suspicious of dessy she was the one who put the idea of kuzo being killed off last night and then he ended up being killed. FOS DESSY Yeah, but the same situation applies here that Rhed brought up earlier about LPS. She said this on Day Two, after Kuzo had already been poisoned. but if she is mafia then wouldn't she know who was poisoned the night before? Maybe? I don't know, I guess that would at very least make her Hades. What really intrigues me is the fact that you're using this logic on Dessy, when it's exactly the same situation as with LPS. Any particular reason you singled her (and only her) out? 
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:05 pm
Wantcookie Zahmen II I can see how "two no lynches in two days" might be a dumb idea, but if you're so sure we're about to lynch an innocent why not step in when you ONE VOTE could make a difference? Is this what people are hung up about? By the time Kuzo changed his vote, there was quite literally less than a minute until the end of the day. I almost stepped in there, but didn't out of both a sense of self-preservation and the knowledge that there was no chance I'd make it. Be honest, how suspicious would it be for someone to step in at the very last second to save someone else when they had just finished saying they might abstain from voting? It makes both the rescuer and the rescued look very convincingly like mafia.
And I haven't been defending anyone? Maybe not hardcore, but I'm pretty sure I say equalizing things about everybody in this game. And let me just go back and delete the post where I say maybe we don't have to worry about you since you didn't end up voting Glaru. o.O
Going to read up/respond on other posts since I skimmed over them.
Vote Count
Stag - 3 (Zahmen, Cabron, Rhed)
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