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Yeah, the Mac mouse I was using was one of the ones where it was like some of the new touch pads. Just one single button, no left or right click like most PC s**t.

Oh, and then the whole Apple innovation thing. "Hey guys, here's the iPad. You can surf the internet. Well, you can surf the internet that doesn't use flash! Lol!" or their one laptop they released like a year ago that took out almost every feature somebody could need to make it slimmer..

Apple needs to go under.

But yeah, this seems up my feelings about Mac.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CrQjfgvqJQ

That nerd also has money.

Dem's Fightin Wordz.

Anyhow, the iPad is a direct counter to the PC netbook, and the new e-book readers from various companies. I wouldn't say it's a focus of the company; I've always felt that the mobile ipod/iphone/ipad part was a bit separate from the computer part.

As for Flash, have you TRIED installing Flash any time in forever? The software is ******** huge. It's 7+ MB, and not very efficient. It just doesn't fit very well on a mobile device with limited space. Additionally, they'd have to rework their lightweight web browser into something more like a computer web browser, and, again, that's more space. Flash is the only thing that has EVER caused any program on my mac to crash. Ever. Well, with the exception of Steam, but Steam was really crash prone when it first came out.

True, but combining all the points made by everyone in the thread basically brings me to this conclusion:

1. You can purchase and replace parts yourself for either, but opening up the case voids your warranty.
2. Apple has excellent customer service.
3. Most of the complaints about Windows usually revolve around not knowing how to do something/having a "for idiots" feature that can't be turned off.
4. The only Mac exclusive software that's really worth it is for audio/video editing. So unless you're really heavy into it as an amateur, get a studio mac and a personal PC.
5. Most of the good games and other programs are designed for PC, and either don't work or don't work well on Mac OS or you have to wait a while until they make a mac version.

= If you know how to work with, repair, build, or troubleshoot a computer you're better off with a PC because you don't need the customer service that Apple provides and most of the problem features with Windows are issues of "not doing it right" or a setting that has to be altered. They're easy to take a part, fix, and work with, and work much better for a gamer (who is likely to know how to fix a computer anyway, so win-win).

Not ragging on Mac or anything, but I've always considered them to be for computer labs, specific uses (such as audio editing), and for people who don't want to learn how to make their computer do what they want it to NO MATTER HOW HARD IT TRIES TO STOP YOU; whereas I've always considered Windows better suited for people who can at least troubleshoot their own hiccups.

I don't understand why people take computers to coffee shops anyway. What if you spilled some on the keyboard? It's not like those little tables have a lot of elbow room.

=/

It's called Linux.